I have a 1o year old garnin gps for when I hunt out west but the new smartphone map apps look attractive. Anyone have experience with them?
I use my iPhone's map app in aerial view more than I use my GPS. I mark spots by dropping a pin and adding to my favorites. I also use the Trimble GPS app
All I've used for the last five years. Backcountry Navigator with the private property boundary add-on, I also have the GMU add-on. Download the maps tiles at home and no cell service needed in the field. I do carry a back up GPS. But I've always done that. Never needed it yet but I'm prepared if I do! I've heard good things about on-x maps but haven't used it. Only bummer is every time I upgrade phones I lose my waypoints and map tiles. They are probably on my flash card but I can't figure out how to reinstate them to the new phone.
I like the "Scoutlook" app. Weather info, arial map, Solunar tables, wind direction.
I have one called antlerinsanity that is pretty nice. Lets you name and mark stand sites, and will show wind direction based on weather predictions for the sites later. It was a freebie, which makes it even better.
I'll use back county Navigator for the first time this year. After playing with it for six months I have a good feeling about it.
I downloaded maps for an area I have hunted for years and already have identified a better way in and out.
I use Topo Maps app on my IPhone even if I don't have service I still can get longitude and latitude just like on my GPS.
Is back country navigator available for the iPhone?
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Is back country navigator available for the iPhone?
NO!
I use onX often it is a great program with lots of good information
I'll second onxmaps. I use it all the time.
Ill second Trimble
For iPhone users look for an app called Gaia works similar to back country navigator.
onx is good, I love backcountry navigator. That is on a Samsung Note 3 at the moment.
I've used iHikeGPS (http://www.ihikegps.com) for the last several years with iPhones and I'm quite pleased with it.
I use PDF Maps. Great app that has MGRS location which makes it great for me since thats about the only type of coordinates I use, plus it shows in real time where I am at on the map. I usually only use it when tracking or confirming a specific location, but its never failed me.
Topo maps is better than backcountry navigator IMO
I use scoutlook deer log app it works good. I had scoutlook weather in was good then iwent to deer log and likeit better.
I just downloaded the backcountry navigator app. Not really sure which would be the best topo map for hunting in colorado, or how to download it when I decide. Hope I can figure it out before I leave for elk hunting on Thursday. I have a regular gps, in an case.
I have been playing with Backcountry navigator for about a year. I have been using USGS maps for scouting and adventuring. I can't always find my way to the function to do what i want but i am learning.
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this is a screen shot of a track i recorded on my last scout for an elk haunt. I need to figure out the battery thing too. I started with 96% and had 5% when i got back to the truck 5-6 hrs.
It helps to go to airplane mode while using BCN.
PDK, it took me a while to get comfortable using it but I'm kinda slow on the tech thing. Get everything downloaded before you leave home. Be on wi fi when you do.
I have maps downloaded for all of my expeditions planned for this fall. You can download multiple map sources of the same area and easily switch back and forth while using them. Once you set waypoints and record tracks they will show on whatever map you are using.
The beta route planner is useless in the mountains. I tried it once to plan a route along the side of a range of hills and ridges over about a two mile distance. It had me getting back in the car, driving about 12 miles around the desired destination and then climbing straight up a very steep mountain. :biglaugh: It was hilarious!
Nevertheless, it was very easy to pick a route and use tracking to check it and modify while hiking.
Airplane mode next time :thumbsup: check! Thanks monterey.
Last week, my mate was using and app called 'GPS kit' on his iPhone. Excellent app and would not bother getting a GPS as this does it all.
When in service you just zoom into the map areas you want to hunt and it saves it all, so when in the field you can just zoom in and to your location is provided by satellites.
Just wish they had it for Android as well.
I see they have BCN for $11.99 and a free version. What is the difference?
My favorite iphone app is called "leave it home and pay attention".
Maybe it's time I catch up with technology. But I'm wondering about a few things.
So to save battery drain, you download and save the maps ahead of time and then run in airplane mode. Does the GPS still know your specific location even in airplane mode? No cell signal needed to know where you are?
When downloading maps are you able to zoom in closer while in the field of do you just see as it displayed when you downloaded it? How large of an area can you see in detail?
Is OnXMaps a one time purchase or an annual subscription? It looks like I could buy one product and use it on both my phone and my tablet, correct?
Backcountry Navigator would require a separate purchase for each of my devices?
QuoteSo to save battery drain, you download and save the maps ahead of time and then run in airplane mode. Does the GPS still know your specific location even in airplane mode? No cell signal needed to know where you are?
Yes, you can run in airplane mode to save battery. Might also prevent your phone from ringing as you draw down on an animal. :biglaugh:
I experimented with mine last night and also determined that it will work when the battery saver mode is on.
QuoteBackcountry Navigator would require a separate purchase for each of my devices?
I don't know the answer to that. :confused:
QuoteWhen downloading maps are you able to zoom in closer while in the field of do you just see as it displayed when you downloaded it? How large of an area can you see in detail?
You open a map source and then select the area you want to download. Once it is downloaded you can zoom in and out and obtain the same resolution you would have if you were online.
The size of an area that you can see in detail seems to depend on the map source. Some have higher resolution than others.
Last night I downloaded a small area in the neighborhood and then drove to my grandsons football practice all the while recording a track. The two screen shots below are of the same downloaded map with one zoomed in. The red lines are my out and back track.
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Today I downloaded a topo map of the same general area. When it is opened it shows the track also. If I had recorded any waypoints they would also show up. Below are screen shots of the topo map,
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There are quite a few map sources available for free download. I have not looked at all of them as of yet.
Below is another screen shot of an area I might hunt this coming weekend. Here you have aerial photo with topo lines overlayed on it.
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Whip,there is a one week free download of onxmaps for you to play with.
trimbleoutdoors.com also has a free 7 day trial but I am still experimenting with the onxmaps. comparing the websites tutorial of the two, trimbleoutdoors is better for my way of thinking.
I downloaded the free trials for both OnXMaps and Trimble. Can't seem to get them to work though. I think it might be because where I live I have slow internet service. I'll probably have to take my tablet somewhere with a high speed WiFi connection and we what it will do. The disadvantage of living in the sticks! But I'll trade slow internet for city living any day.
Sure seems like these would be good maps if I can get them.
I'm with you huntryx, hunting is a zen moment for myself, a special time to get away into the woods, not to simulate a video game.If you can't tell east from west or triangulate with nothing more than what you find around in your environment what happens when your dependent electronic tech malfunctions.Tech may be good to have if you need it but don't let it distract you from seeing whats in front of you.If your gonna use high tech to hunt why handicap yourself with a bow get a smart missile and sit on the sofa and press a button. If I offended anyone sorry just my oppinion.
No offense Mark, but there is a big difference between using a smart missle sitting on the couch versus issuing a map and a gps. That's all these phone apps really are.
When I hunt a new area of west I want to have a map of the area. I also carry a gps with me and use it mostly to mark where camp is in relation to my location or to mark a kill site so that I can find it again easily. I also always have a compass with me and know how to use it if need be.
I like to be able to tell whether the other side of a steep ridge has a deep secluded bowl beyond it or another road full of atv's before I hike up to the top. If you'd rather hike to the top to figure that out more power to you.
These smartphone apps are just a cheaper way to buy the maps that I've been purchasing paper copies of for the past 35 years. Personally, I don't see why that would be a problem for anyone.
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I was able to play around a bit with a couple of apps while visiting my daughter where I could get a decent high speed connection.
The TrimbleOutdoors maps seemed to have what I am looking for. I like that you could find maps by County, game management unit, or by name for National Parks and wilderness areas. That made it easy to find and download the maps I needed, and the quality and detail was good while in off line mode.
The OnXMaps were not easy to find for me. I couldn't seem to figure out how to find what I was looking for, but I'll admit I didn't spend a lot of time with it. I'll have to give it another try before I make a decision and maybe read some tutorials or watch videos to learn how to use the program.
I'm still not sure that I will like something like this to totally replace a paper map. It is just so hard to get a big picture view of the whole area, figure out where roads go, etc. By the time I zoom in close enough to see detail I can't see a very large area. But for use while in the field I can see where these might work great.
Still lots to learn!
I will second Gaia GPS. It's pricy but worth it. One of the neatest features is that you can save the maps you download and the print them for a hard copy back up. I does eat your battery even in airplane mode but, I carry a little charger jic. Really handy for find your spot in the dark. Also I imagine it will really be handy for tracking hit deer if needed as it will track your movements across the map when prompted.
Mark - one use you may not of thought of is that of boundaries. Here in NE there are several wildlife management areas. These are open to the public. However, many are not clearly marked nor do they have fences in places to know the boundaries. They do however have gis data you can download. This can tell you if you are on the WMA land or getting onto private land. Good Hunting.
I understand, it does simplify a lot of leg work,especially if you have time limits on the time in the woods,I use mapping and topo tech resources also,but only before I go into the woods, I don't bring them with me. I can see where high tech can get out of hand really fast though, Drones,thermal imaging,night vision,to name a few,and other products and software where you can make the hunt seem like there's no human senses involved.If that is what you like great,but keep it legal and ethical.Myself I go to the woods for more of a spiritual experience.
I still use a compass and a note pad. We don't have good service in my area. The only way I can get a service is from the wifi in my house.
Sam, no service required. Maps are downloaded on WiFi. Only GPS needed in the field.
I used BCN on an actual hunt yesterday. It involved descending from 10500 feet to 8600 feet in some very rough country heavily tree'd with lodgepole pines. Now, I have some physical problems stemming from an accident. This was the first time in four years that I felt I could handle a Hunt in this kind of country. BCN made it possible for me to go in and out without getting in a bind. It also helped keep me off private property that is unmarked on the side that I was approaching from.
This was the first time I've ever used GPS in any form. Have always been a paper/compass guy. Still am for that matter, but I'll be using the phone too.
As far as improving my hunting odds, it didn't do so yesterday and never will.
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Topo maps on my iphone is all I use. I take a paper map but never pull it out. Just turn aiplane mode on and off when I'm looking at the map to save battery.
Check out hunstand on android.
All I've used for the last five seasons elk and deer hunting. My current phone is kind of sucky but it's the phone not the program. Only pitfall I have with the program I have is every time I upgrade phones, I lose all my maps and waypoints, maps are free and easy to download, waypoints cost a lot of blood sweat and tears, I'm going to write them all down next time I upgrade phones and maybe start a file on the computer. It's priceless to have a large touch screen GPS for less than thirty bucks that has private/public property boundaries and GMU boundaries. I use Backcountry Navigator, you download maps at home and you DON'T have to have cell service in the field.
I'm with Charlie Lamb. It's a bit like checking the weather forecast every day but it also allows you to put in stand locations, pinch points and gives you wind direction. Helps decide which stand to hunt without getting there first to find the wind is not what the weather channel predicted.
Good stuff here. I've been playing with the OnXMap and find it kinda cool. The platt information is great and something I have never seen on other apps before. ?
Regarding using your phone and not a gps afield...I don't understand how that works especially in big country where I need a gps...for five big reasons.
1.) It tends to rain...phones don't like rain
2.) it tends to be sunny...phones are almost impossible to us in direct sunlight.
3.) The quality of GPS chipsets is superior in GPSes vs. the phone.
4.) I have a tendency to drop things or abuse things afield...phones do like that stuff.
5.) Phones don't have batteries that can swap out anytime and chargers are hard to come by on a mountain hunt.
These apps are great and/or fun. I love em but they don't replace GPSes IMO.
Some hunters on another forum recommended HuntStand Lite.
Has some good features, and can sync with other devices. I downloaded it the other day and so far it seems pretty nice.