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Title: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: JR Williams on August 01, 2015, 05:51:00 PM
So, I got a new bow headed my way and plan to bareshaft group tune. I ordered a few shafts of different spines. My plan is to tune the arrow to the point weight I like.

My question is: How weak do you leave your bareshafts compared to your fletched shafts at say 25-30 yards? ie. how far away should the bareshafts group from the fletched shafts?

Everything I have read or come across says things like "A Smidge Weak" or "Slightly weak" when saying how far to leave bareshafts weak. I am planning on fletching with a cap wrap and 4X5in fletching so I will be adding 25-30 grains to the tail of the shaft and I would like to avoid adding weight to the front to compensate.

I have solid form and can shoot decent groups, but not sure if I should be looking for my bareshafts favoring the right side of the group, 2 inches to the right of fletched group, or 6 inches to the right of the fletched group.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: Bud B. on August 01, 2015, 05:55:00 PM
I don't think there's a specific answer.

Tune them slightly weak with a wrap. You can also fletch them and cut the vanes off the fletching and leave just the quill on the shaft with wrap. It should be weak enough to get you close enough to be able to tune by adjusting brace height afterwards with a fletched arrow.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: Bud B. on August 01, 2015, 05:56:00 PM
In other words, trial and error.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: JR Williams on August 01, 2015, 06:29:00 PM
Bud B.

Great idea about wrap and quills on the bareshaft. I didn't think about it. That would make me feel alot better rather than adding all that weight to the shaft afterwards.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: A.S. on August 01, 2015, 08:17:00 PM
The best answer I have found is to get close with your bare shaft, then fine tune shooting broadheads v/s field points.  If your broadheads group with your field points, you are golden.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: jbpharmd on August 01, 2015, 08:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by A.S.:
The best answer I have found is to get close with your bare shaft, then fine tune shooting broadheads v/s field points.  If your broadheads group with your field points, you are golden.
Absolutely! This has given me great results. Just get your fletched arrows and bareshafts grouping together, put your desired broadhead and fieldpoints on fletched arrows and shoot them. A small change in brace height will adjust your arrow flight and get your broadheads flying identical to your field points which is the end-game anyway.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: snag on August 01, 2015, 08:42:00 PM
When you fletch the shafts this acts like stiffen them. So if you bare shaft to where they hit a couple of inches weak fletching them will bring them right in.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: AZ_Longbow on August 01, 2015, 09:42:00 PM
I cut from the back and use electrical tape inplace of a wrap and bare quills for the test. Way easier for me to do. And no need to pull inserts.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: JR Williams on August 02, 2015, 03:05:00 AM
Thank you guys for all the help!
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: katman on August 02, 2015, 06:44:00 AM
I think you will find it to be about 2" at 25-30yds
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: tracker12 on August 02, 2015, 08:46:00 AM
I usually start at 10 yards to bareshaft then move out to about 20 yards.  Am I missing anything not moving out father.
Title: Re: BARESHAFT QUESTION
Post by: The Whittler on August 02, 2015, 08:46:00 PM
I start at around 12 to 15 yards and use one bare shaft. I cut until the shaft is flying pretty good then I back up to about 20 yards.

If it still shoots good I fletch and put a broad head on and all should be good. It works for me.