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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Izzy on July 13, 2015, 11:00:00 AM
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Long have I dreamed of staying in a wall tent, let alone owning one. Here it is after tons of research and procrastination. This is 10"X12". I also ordered a collapsible wood stove thats pretty slick and folds up quite thin. I have a couple trout hunts with Nate in the Dacks planned for this summer. After that, Lord only knows where Ill end up.
This fall I have a Catskill group hunt planned with TBONY and a little after that an Ohio hunt planned as well. Im sure Ill spend a few weekends in Moose River plains.
I told my wife she can visit me anytime during the fall as long as she calls ahead of time and doesn't stay too long. :knothead: (http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/2crazyboys_photos/IMG_20150705_184427657.jpg) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/2crazyboys_photos/media/IMG_20150705_184427657.jpg.html)
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:clapper:
Good for you, wall tents are just plain cool.
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If your wife is like mine, she won't want to stay in that tent with no floor. I have owned a couple of wall tents, and loved them, but the better half thought they were "yucky" or "ikky" because they didn't have a floor. :dunno:
Enjoy the new man cave.
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I love the wall tent life. Very cool Izzy
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My goal for retirement is to have at least 200 acres with one of those sitting right in the middle!
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gotta live your dreams … enjoy that new "home" and make LOTS of memories with it :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :campfire:
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Ha, that's awesome!!
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That suggestion to your wife may have you wintering in that tent :biglaugh:
Think you are going to enjoy your times in it. I have hunted out of large trailers and small trailers. Small tent's and large. For me, the large tent is the most comfortable and practical.
Can you add more info on your stove?
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Originally posted by monterey:
That suggestion to your wife may have you wintering in that tent :biglaugh:
Think you are going to enjoy your times in it. I have hunted out of large trailers and small trailers. Small tent's and large. For me, the large tent is the most comfortable and practical.
Can you add more info on your stove?
I chose the tundra take down stove which weighs in at 38 lbs.
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Great purchase. I'm at a decision about sleep quarters myself right now. Just like you, I picture many a good time inside a wall tent.
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Very cool, someday I hope to have one myself.
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:thumbsup: :campfire:
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nice
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That is awesome!
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They are toasty when you get that wood stove burning. Good luck with it.
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Nice tent. The feature you'll probably like most, other than the stove, is the high side walls. Really gives a wall tent a lot more room. Good camping to you. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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:shaka:
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Originally posted by kbetts:
Great purchase. I'm at a decision about sleep quarters myself right now. Just like you, I picture many a good time inside a wall tent.
Thanks fellas. These are great tents and after coming close to buying a pop up camper, I went with the wall tent. Fits my life style better and cheaper in the long run without having to pay insurance and reg costs.
They do entail some labor in initial set up. I cut my own conduit pipe for the frame after I had to measure the exact dimensions of the tent and discuss it with the maker.I saved $200+ doing this instead of ordering the frame.
Before hunting season I have to cut some re-bar tent stakes, they'll be heavy but beat out wood and burn wood in the stove to "season" it before using it in the tent. All that and its probably 250 lbs including frame, tent, fly and stove. So its not for packing in without mules, its a truck camping set.
I was very happy with the customer service and they were more than helpful in answering my questions, even turning me away from a larger one since Ill only be camping with 2 in the summer for the most part. I set it up solo and all in all it will be less than a 1/2 hour including fly and stove set up.
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It sounds like you are all set to go. Camping under canvas is great. You will stay cozy with snow on the ground. Congrats on a great choice.
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A couple of suggestions from another wall tent owner. Don't use rebar for the stakes. The roughness will tear up the tent loops. 3/8" square stock with a "L" shape works well. Also, a 10'x12' canvas drop cloth works well for a portable floor.
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I have set my sail canvas baker and my wall tent up using parachute cord loops and rocks instead of stakes on rocky ground. I use an inside truss rafter/pole. Don't put them away wet and clean and dry the loops before storing. Any dampness and the enzymes in dirt will work fast on them. Oh and watch out for tornadoes and moose, they are attracted to canvas.
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Good info on cutting your own poles, total weight and the rebar stakes. Gotta love Tradgang. Some of my friends have started asking....."How do you learn all of this stuff?"
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Life is good! Don't wear it out the first year!
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My Eena tents have double stake loops, the nylon and a ring. I agree that one needs to be careful with rebar. My metal stakes are aluminum with a hook. The hook holds down the loop, not the flat corners of the the stake. I am sure that you told about setting them up a bit loose. High humidity and cooling evening temps will tighten canvas tents up.
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That's awesome Izzy, enjoy. :thumbsup:
Bob
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That is just awsome and with that stove you'll be all toasty in there !!
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Looks good Izzy! Man i'm right there with you,think i'm going to try an get one next year.
Which stove did youget?
Ernie
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Very nice!
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Originally posted by BigErn:
Looks good Izzy! Man i'm right there with you,think i'm going to try an get one next year.
Which stove did youget?
Ernie
Hey Ernie, I got the tundra take down by kni-co. I've been damn cold in Texas, I know you could use one down there.
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Originally posted by Izzy:
Originally posted by BigErn:
Looks good Izzy! Man i'm right there with you,think i'm going to try an get one next year.
Which stove did youget?
Ernie
Hey Ernie, I got the tundra take down by kni-co. I've been damn cold in Texas, I know you could use one down there. [/b]
I'm also rethinking the stakes. Been looking at some lighter options.
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Your gonna love the wall tent. Spent a total of 3 and a half weeks in mine I bought last year. Best camp set up I have ever been in! Will be using it this year as hunting camp for a total of 4 weeks in 4 states.
So nice not to have to pay for a hotel and notnget weird looks as you walk thru a hotel lobby carrying tree stands..lol
For the tent stakes I used 12 inch long 3/8 nails from home depot were like 60 cents each. Works like a champ and galvanized!
Cool trick on the cold nights... I bring my jet sled into tent and park it close to stove. Heat water on stove and fill solar shower. Hang solar shower from tent rafter. Stand in jet sled take hot show next to stove. Then wash dirty clothes in the soappy water in the jet sled and rinse with remaining water in solar shower. A hot shower and laundry at the same time and all in a 70 degree tent on a 10 degree night. Doesn't get any better!!!
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I have Used those nails too. Pretty much indestructible! I put fender washers on them to keep the lines from popping off. Probably not needed, but just in case.
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Congrats!
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That's a nice tent. They have a lot of room & are comfortable especially with a stove. Should make a nice home.
Thanks for sharing.
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Nothing like a canvas camp. Enjoy!!!!
:thumbsup:
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Originally posted by LB_hntr:
Cool trick on the cold nights... I bring my jet sled into tent and park it close to stove. Heat water on stove and fill solar shower. Hang solar shower from tent rafter. Stand in jet sled take hot show next to stove. Then wash dirty clothes in the soappy water in the jet sled and rinse with remaining water in solar shower. A hot shower and laundry at the same time and all in a 70 degree tent on a 10 degree night. Doesn't get any better!!! [/QB]
Heck Yea!
Another reason i need too get one!
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Originally posted by BigErn:
Originally posted by LB_hntr:
Cool trick on the cold nights... I bring my jet sled into tent and park it close to stove. Heat water on stove and fill solar shower. Hang solar shower from tent rafter. Stand in jet sled take hot show next to stove. Then wash dirty clothes in the soappy water in the jet sled and rinse with remaining water in solar shower. A hot shower and laundry at the same time and all in a 70 degree tent on a 10 degree night. Doesn't get any better!!! [/b]
Heck Yea!
Another reason i need too get one! [/QB]
Almost doesn't sound like camping. No bath in a cold Creek???? :confused:
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Just came back from a camping trip in The Green Mt. National forest on our first overnighter in it and am getting more and more efficient at setting up. No condensation like in a poly tent. Im loving it.
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Very cool! I've been thinking about investing in one myself. How do you know where to start? There are hundreds available and at all different prices. What are some key quality features to look for, and what are some things to avoid? Thanks.
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Originally posted by Pheonixarcher:
Very cool! I've been thinking about investing in one myself. How do you know where to start? There are hundreds available and at all different prices. What are some key quality features to look for, and what are some things to avoid? Thanks.
I found this manufacturer to have a ton of information.
http://www.davistent.com/
After looking at all the other options out there, I just ordered a 12 x 14 with internal frame for myself.
Hope that helps.
Ray
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Davis tent is where I got mine. 12x14 internal frame and small summit stove.
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I also got mine from Davis tent... 12 X 14 with external frame.
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Awesome Izzy! Great tent!
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Thanks for tips Gang! I'll check them out.
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This thread is getting better by the post with the sharing of wall tent info. I'm finding out that they're an important aspect is a lot of hunters lives.
I'm gonna change the post title to make this more of an info sharing thread and would like anyone to add tips and pointers that make hunting from a wall tent more efficient and comfortable.
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Great tent Izzy. I spent one season in one set up at deer camp in Georgia didn't have a stove and the AC unit was a little tricky setting up LOL.
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I've spent time in elk country of Colorado and Montana for weeks in wall tents with wood stoves. Several times I've woke up to six to ten inches of snow on the ground. With dry wood stoked on the inside of the tent on those mornings it's at that moment you appreciate the beauty of the wall tent. Enjoy your investment.
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I have a 14x16 Davis with internal frame and a 4 dog stove. I sold my pop up camper and bought it about 3 years ago and would never go back. A wall tent just makes an elk camp!
A couple tips:
1. I store my tent inside the canvas tent bag it came in then put that inside a 120 qt cooler. This keeps any rodents from being able to chew holes in it. If I kill an elk, I use the ice chest for the meat and store the tent in the bag for the trip home. The floor, fly, stakes, frame angles, and ropes all go in a Rubermade Action Packer which I use to store dry groceries in camp after the tent is set up.
2. Not as much a tip as a gear recommendation; If your tent has an internal frame a hanging organizer is great for keeping your gear handy and your tent organized. I bought mine from Outfitters Supply but several tent makers offer them as well. I also bought several of the clips that hook to the frame and allow you to hang various things. Here is a pic of both the hanging organizer and the clips in use.
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3. I always use a rain fly with my tent, not only to help it shed water but also to protect against uv. To get ventilation between the fly and the tent I use 1/2" metal conduit cut about 3" longer than the height of the side walls. Most (not all) tents that are advertised with 5' sidewalks are actually about 4'-9" as 5' is the fabric cut length before sewing. This makes a 5' pole perfect and allows you to get 2 poles from a 10' stick of conduit. I then take a metal eye bolt with about a 3" threaded section and run it through the grommet on the fly and put a nut on it to hold in place. When fly is in place I just slide the threaded section of the eye bolt into the end of the conduit then tie a rope through the eyebolt and stake it out. Here's a picture of mine in use.
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Enjoy the tent Izzy!
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I looked for various ways to store mine and ended up buying one of the heavy duty Rubbermaid trash cans with a snap on lid. The folded tent slips down into it easily and then I have two canvas bags that I put on top. One has the stakes and the other all of the ropes. Makes a nice package with two handles to carry it.
I have a four dog stove in mine and one of the best ideas we ever came up with was to place a griddle on top of the stove. I leave it there the whole time the tent is set up and we cook meals on it during bad weather. It is great for making a quick grilled cheese sandwich or to warm up a pop tart in the morning.
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How long does it take to set up one of these on average? And, how long do you leave it set up?
I currently have an old thirty foot trailer I use. But it is really too long, and hard to heat. Plus I worry about a fire in it.
I had it fixed up pretty well complete with electricity, but somebody had to break into it and steal stuff. So I don't keep anything of value there when I am gone.
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Montana Canvas makes some nice looking ones. I drive by there on the way to Bozeman & one day am going to stop in & look.
Has anyone had experience with the single pole tent? I think you can skip the pole & hang them from a tree limb overhead?
I'm staying tuned, some good info & neat pictures of camps here.
Thanks.
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Originally posted by MnFn:
How long does it take to set up one of these on average? And, how long do you leave it set up?
I currently have an old thirty foot trailer I use. But it is really too long, and hard to heat. Plus I worry about a fire in it.
I had it fixed up pretty well complete with electricity, but somebody had to break into it and steal stuff. So I don't keep anything of value there when I am gone.
I've never timed it but would say I can have mine set up in 30-40 minutes. I don't typically use mine unless I'm going to be there for at least 4 or 5 nights....most of the time it's more like 10-14 days. I can set my 14x16 up by myself but a parter makes it much easier and faster. If I planned on setting it up solo a lot 12x14 would be about as big as I'd go. I'd also probably go to the external frame in lieu of internal.
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Originally posted by Frank V:
Has anyone had experience with the single pole tent? I think you can skip the pole & hang them from a tree limb overhead?
Frank,
There are a couple of options in this regard. I can only speak to my own experience.
After doing a bunch of research, I ended up with a 5m Bell Tent. While some may say that the higher walls of a rectangular wall tent give you more usable space, the Bell Tent is a single pole system that can easily be set up in about 20 minutes and meets my and my familys needs quite well.
The only thing I don't have in my bell tent is a stove jack / stove. That can be addressed fairly easily. Some folks use propane heaters with low O2 shut-off.
Take a look at the bell tents. Bjorn has also posted pictures of his here on Tradgang.
Hope the helps.
homebru
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I've been getting mine set up in about 20 minutes on my own. The stove will probably take me another 10 minutes when I start using it. I have my frame poles color coded which avoids a jigsaw puzzle of pieces in a pile.
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I can set mine up by myself in about 30 minutes. That is one of the reasons that I went with external poles, it is easier to set up alone. It doesn't really go a lot faster with someone helping me other than laying the poles and ropes out. I actually timed us a couple of months back. Myself and one other guy set everything up in high winds and 25 degree temperatures in 55 minutes. That is having the tent up, stove put together and installed, cots, tables, sleeping bags.... everything set up for camp in less than an hour.
I have a friend that has a single pole tent with stove jack. It does set up quick and easy but you really loose a lot of head room and wall space in his. With eight foot ridge line and five foot side walls, there isn't much area that you have to stoop to walk around in a wall tent.
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Question for the Davis tent owners that have an internal frame: They say 1" conduit, is that thin wall (EMT) or is it rigid conduit?
Also, I'm looking at stoves for a 12' x 14'. I'm really digging the Four Dog brand. His construction makes a lot of sense to me (I work in the HVAC industry). Would you go for the Three Dog or the Four Dog size for that tent?
Thank you.
DarkTimber,
Love the idea of the 1/2" conduit for the fly. Did you buy the Davis fly or fabricate you own from a tarp? If fabricated, how did you deal with the stove jack hole?
Thanks.
Ray
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That is a nice set up homebru, thanks for sharing.
My tenting days might be over now though.
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Originally posted by Sixgun:
Question for the Davis tent owners that have an internal frame: They say 1" conduit, is that thin wall (EMT) or is it rigid conduit?
Also, I'm looking at stoves for a 12' x 14'. I'm really digging the Four Dog brand. His construction makes a lot of sense to me (I work in the HVAC industry). Would you go for the Three Dog or the Four Dog size for that tent?
Thank you.
DarkTimber,
Love the idea of the 1/2" conduit for the fly. Did you buy the Davis fly or fabricate you own from a tarp? If fabricated, how did you deal with the stove jack hole?
Thanks.
Ray
I use 1" EMT for the frame.
The 4 dog is a lot of stove even for my 14x16. Unless you plan on using it quite a bit in really cold temps I think the 3 dog is plenty.
I bought my fly with my tent from Davis. It has canvas reinforcing at all the high wear areas is much higher quality than a standard tarp. If I were going to make one I'd simply layout the location of the jack, mark a 12" square then cut an "x" from corner to corner in the square. Then fold each flap over a piece of 1" webbing and sew around it.
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My tent is a three dog stove from the Four Dog company. When I called to order he said that the Three Dog stove would keep the tent warm down to 20 below, depending on the wood used. He said you didn't need to go to the Four Dog stove until you went to a 16 foot tent.
The air tight door and baffles make the Three Dog stoves worth the money. My other stove didn't have them and a fire would last 3-4 hours. With oak and cutting the air flow down I can get a good fire to last for 6 plus hours.
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DarkTimber,
Thank you. I was wondering if the 4 Dog model was overkill. I'll mostly use the tent for summer camping with my son, and also for deer camp. I don't foresee myself camping in minus degree weather.
I was thinking roughly the same thing for a rainfly made from a regular tarp. I'll have to check out the Davis website again!
Thank you.
Ray
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This was elk camp in 1987. Boy oh boy, I miss having hair, my old Jeep CJ7, and camping in wall tents.
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I too have the Davis 14 x 16 canvas wall tent. We camped in it this weekend for the odd year gathering for PBS in New Berlin Wi. It was really hot for this northern boy and I was glad I brought my free standing air conditioner. While it was 95 and humid outside it was 72 inside my tent. Now for hunting, I use it with a three dog stove and it keeps us plenty warm in November here in the Yooper.
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There is nothing more comfortable in the field than a good wall tent. I don't have my own, but am fortunate to have many friends that do. They are fortunate I have a Kifaru tipi when we fly in or backpack somewhere.
Aaron, we are going to have to share points somewhere; I've got a bunch of Wyoming elk points...
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How do they finish the edges of the hole the chimney goes through when you have a stove.?
I love the idea of the stove in the tent for winter but not something that is very common here in Australia.
Cheers KIM
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Originally posted by Steve O:
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There is nothing more comfortable in the field than a good wall tent. I don't have my own, but am fortunate to have many friends that do. They are fortunate I have a Kifaru tipi when we fly in or backpack somewhere.
Aaron, we are going to have to share points somewhere; I've got a bunch of Wyoming elk points...
Sounds like a plan Steve. Let's compare notes, I'm sure we can come up with something. WY Elk sounds good or maybe AZ if you're not too far ahead of me.
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Izzy, will you be bringing your home away from home to ETAR. I'd like to check it out
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Wow these photos bring back memories of great times in the Mountains.
Here we are having more & more bear sightings & I'm kind of wondering if it's still safe to tent camp? Sure is fun though.
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Originally posted by kevsuperg:
Izzy, will you be bringing your home away from home to ETAR. I'd like to check it out
No bud, Im gonna be "roughing" it in a cabin. The cabin is part of the tradition of ETAR for me.
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hay Izzy Looks good . cant wait to see it .
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Congrats Izzy...enjoy that home away from home this season.
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Originally posted by Auzoutdoor:
How do they finish the edges of the hole the chimney goes through when you have a stove.?
I love the idea of the stove in the tent for winter but not something that is very common here in Australia.
Cheers KIM
It is called a stove jack. It gets sewn into either the wall or the roof of the tent.
http://www.davistent.com/index.cfm?id=3a267423-0adf-4bec-abfbf39f4e7a5444
There is an explanation in the link above, and also a picture of one installed in a tent.
Ray
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Just came back from the beach where I finally convinced the whole family to tent with me on a scouting trip up north. I want to get acquainted with this tent as much as possible in the next month to get ready for hunting season. Maybe the family can give me some recommendations on comfort upgrades. Im good as is but the more use I get pre hunting season the more it feels like home.
I bought mine from the Wall Tent Shop in Idaho and they recommend that I burn the stove to "season" it before using in the tent otherwise they said everything will smell like paint if its used in the tent first.
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I set both of my stoves up and burned them outside before I took them camping. They do stink pretty bad at first.
Something else I did with my stove. I have the nesting pipes that fit inside of each other. When I had it set up in the back yard I drilled a hole through the overlap on each pipe joint and then ran a sheet metal screw through it to secure the two pipes together. Now I keep a zip lock baggie with a screw driver and several of those small sheet metal screws inside my stove when I pack it up. When I set up the stove I secure the joints to keep them from blowing apart in a heavy wind.
In talking to several guys who had wall tents, they all told me the first purchase that I should make is for a suitable fire extinguisher for inside the tent. I leave mine under the cot that is closest to the stove.
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Originally posted by Izzy:
Just came back from the beach where I finally convinced the whole family to tent with me on a scouting trip up north. I want to get acquainted with this tent as much as possible in the next month to get ready for hunting season. Maybe the family can give me some recommendations on comfort upgrades. Im good as is but the more use I get pre hunting season the more it feels like home.
Ok you asked so I will mention so things I do that make it better.
Cots: disc-o-bed xl cots are the best cots ever made (used my military, relief aid, and the number one cot in the world for good reason) they can be used normal or as bunk beds. as bunk beds you can now sleep 4 people in the space normally needed for 2 people. Best money I ever spent...period.
Bath room for women: a 5 galon bucket with a plastic toilet seat and let them have the whole tent to themselves when going to the bathroom. keeps them warm dry comfortable and happy.
Shower: see my above post
acessories: the clips that you get from montana tents are amazing, they hook on the internal fram and let you hang things. buy a dozen of these. worth thier weight in gold.
Laundry line: make 2 of these with paracord, mini carabiners and plastic line adjusters. then when in camp you can just carabiner them to the brackets on each side of the ridge pole.
s hooks: cheap big s hooks from hardware store and hang them on the frame pole brackets to put head lamps, clothes, towels etc on.
Big tarp: have a big tarp that you can lay the tent on when setting up and taking down to keep tent clean. while the tent is up use the tarp to cover your extra wood and outside gear. or add a couple poles and use that tarp as out cook shelter/ outdoor canopy (i did an article on this on my podcast site).
Fan: get a small battery operated fan and use as follows. In summer put the fan in the window or ridge pole hole blowing out. it will pull air in and send warm air out. In the colder temps put the fan in corner above stove and blow warm stove air down to middle of tent (makes a huge difference).
cheap great perimeter alarm: if you have meat hanging or have food or other things you want to put a perimeter alarm on buy a battery opererated window alarm/chime. its cheap at about 3 bucks and light weight plastic. run a perimeter of fishing line around area you want and put the 2 peices of the alarm next to each other with a small thin rubber band. when critter hits fishing line the 2 peices pull apart and alarm or chime sounds letting you know a coon or bear is investigating your stuff.
cot pad: cots are always cold if you dont use a sleeping pad. air is cold under the cot and soaks up into you. always use a foam sleeping pad on the cot under your bag to keep you warm.
Tent floor: simple cheap 5 dollar tarp works great and use a couple tent stakes thru the gromit holes to keep it tight and down.
Tent stove path: my tuck has a back seat so I have a back seat long skinny floor mat that i bought for 10 bucks from walmart. at night before i go to bed I take this long skiny rubber floor mat and put it between the tarp under the sleeping area and the stove so in the middle of the night i can walk bare foot to reload the stove and not have dirty feet going back into my sleeping bag.
Tent case/table: i dont bring a tent table. instead i put the tent, stakes, lines in a big plastic bin and use the bin as a table in the tent. multi purpose plus we can keep stuff in the bin to keep the tent cleaner and organized.
Carbondioxide detector: buy one and leave it in your tent bag so you always have it with your tent. when using a stove just hang the co2 detector some where in the tent for middle of the night piece of mind.
thick space blankets: when temps get sub zero use 2 of the thick silver/orange 7 dollar space blankets and hanging them from tent frame around the stove to reflect heat back into the tent rather than loosing it all thru the canvas.
There you go. A couple ideas to make life better in the wall tent.
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I no longer have my van, I have two new subaru outbacks, with hitches. My most valuable camping tool has become my four by six cargo trailer. I even get a really comfortable folding bed in there along with my tents, camping gear and deer. One of the problems in Iowa is that many campgrounds close October 1, it's all about the water hook ups for fifth wheel campers and flush toilets.
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Some nice tents shown here fellows. Brings back memories, thanks!
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These are my two Egyptian sail canvas tents. They have no waterproofing treatment of any kind and have never leaked. They do seem to be tornado magnets. There are very few places where we can set them up in Iowa during the rut and walk out of the tent and go hunt. Most of the campgrounds close earlier than that.
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Originally posted by pavan:
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These are my two Egyptian sail canvas tents. They have no waterproofing treatment of any kind and have never leaked. They do seem to be tornado magnets. There are very few places where we can set them up in Iowa during the rut and walk out of the tent and go hunt. Most of the campgrounds close earlier than that.
Nice tents. Believe it or not our state government looks after us so well that to sell a tent to a NY address, the tent must be treated with a fireproofing. Cost me an extra $100 or so but at least I know my elected reps care deeply for me. :knothead:
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I think the fire proofing is really only needed when the tent has a wax or oil water proofing. These tents, of course, do not have that. They have been used many many times with either my 3 dog stove or just a campfire in front of the Baker tent. We have a front that we can put on the Baker with a fiberglass stove hole just like the wall tent. Both of these tents are over 25 years old and are still in perfect shape, the trick is never ever put them away in any condition other than bone dry and clean.
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I just ordered a 12x14 from Davis tents. Probably wont have it for antelope next month but December Deer on the Salmon river will be cozy.
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Just received mine! Here it is set up in the backyard. Looking forward to the first of many memories in it at Elm Hall this weekend!
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Ray
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Thats a fine looking tent! Hope you have many great adventures in it.
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This is my favorite thread of all time!!
I'll be having my own in the very near future!!
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Oh, and I just bought a brand new (used once) set of disco cots that stack into bunks for 100 bucks! Score!!!!
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In my photo the open door of my trailer is on the left. Life in the woods can be hard. When I got that trailer, I soon found that a folding bed with a thick memory foam mattress would fit in it, add some cross country wheels to push it cross country to the tent and bingo better than home. On that turkey hunt the temps reached 106 degrees one day in the Loess Hills, thankfully there was a friendly small town bar with good air conditioning a few miles away. A generator and a free standing air conditioner would have come in handy that day.
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I suppose this thread will languish while all its followers fully assess this last post.
Meanwhile, don't these tents fill up with daddy longlegs and slugs?
Sorry if that image poofed the hot tub.
Killdeer
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Originally posted by Killdeer:
I suppose this thread will languish while all its followers fully assess this last post.
Meanwhile, don't these tents fill up with daddy longlegs and slugs?
Sorry if that image poofed the hot tub.
Killdeer
Around here we call slugs and spiders 'horse divers". Its a French word for snack type foods before a main course.
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I didn't look or see anything. I got out of there as fast as could.
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Originally posted by pavan:
I didn't look or see anything. I got out of there as fast as could.
Then how did you know that she wore no curtainage?
Izzy, are they high cholesterol treats? Is deep frying them cheating? :confused:
Killdeer
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She said so when she heard us talking. The tub was deep, thankfully. If you want to attack me, for relaying a comical but embarrassing occurrence, go ahead, but those folks were a rowdy bunch. That situation had what I hate about public campgrounds of any kind, the excessive drinking that goes on.
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Killy. Haven't seen your posts for a while. Glad you're back. We need a little more of your perspective. :archer2:
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I think the stove was overkill during the few warm October days I spent in the GWNF, but it still looked nice! ;)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg575/Doug_Simon/October%20Hunt%20in%20GWNF/2013OctoberHuntingTrip046_zps679800d8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Doug_Simon/media/October%20Hunt%20in%20GWNF/2013OctoberHuntingTrip046_zps679800d8.jpg.html)
Kingsnake
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Izzy, congrats your gonna love wall tenting, been doing it for years in the "dacks".I'm surprised no-one has mentioned using a barrel stove,they work great & alot cheaper.
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Originally posted by Kingsnake:
I think the stove was overkill during the few warm October days I spent in the GWNF, but it still looked nice! ;)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg575/Doug_Simon/October%20Hunt%20in%20GWNF/2013OctoberHuntingTrip046_zps679800d8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Doug_Simon/media/October%20Hunt%20in%20GWNF/2013OctoberHuntingTrip046_zps679800d8.jpg.html)
What brand tent is it?
Ernie
Kingsnake
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Originally posted by pavan:
She said so when she heard us talking. The tub was deep, thankfully. If you want to attack me, for relaying a comical but embarrassing occurrence, go ahead, but those folks were a rowdy bunch. That situation had what I hate about public campgrounds of any kind, the excessive drinking that goes on.
Not only that, but they are Bear magnets & I like to stay clear of them for that too! :confused:
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The bears that come to visit when we are on Canadian wilderness canoe trips are a different critter than large Minnesota campground bears. The Canadian bears say, "Oops, sorry I'll be on my way." The busy campground bears are much like the campground drunks, always looking for a fight.
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The tent is a Montana Canvas Spike III relite material. Stove is an Ellis folding stove. I love both, but I have nothing else to compare it with in the same class. All my previous tents were much smaller domes or pup style tents.
Kingsnake
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Montana Canvas is about two hours up the road from us. They almost always have several tents up outside as we go by on the interstate. They are nice looking tents & have a good reputation.
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Originally posted by Kingsnake:
BigErn-
The tent is a Montana Canvas Spike III relite material. Stove is an Ellis folding stove. I love both, but I have nothing else to compare it with in the same class. All my previous tents were much smaller domes or pup style tents.
Kingsnake
Good looking Tent!
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best made in Fairbanks AK,called (arctic oven )will keep you warm at 40 below with just 3 peoples body heat or a very small stove ..pricy but the best there is,
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www.alaskatent.com (http://www.alaskatent.com)
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What do you guys use for repairing small holes in your canvas? None are any bigger than a quarter, mostly just tiny holes. From embers I assume since most are on roof of the tent. It's a fairly tough material it's a used gp small army tent.
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This isn't exactly a wall tent tool but camping in general. I use a five gallon bucket to wash my clothes. I get the ones with locking lids from firehouse subs they are only two dollars apiece and they are great. I cut a half inch hole in the center of the bucket lid and take a threaded PVC cap and a plug, screw them together with a few rubber washers to seal the hole when not using it to wash clothes. When I need to wash clothes I take the plug out of the lid and I have a plunger that I keep inside of the bucket I assemble it and put my clothes in the bucket and use the plunger to wash them just like a butter churn. It works great and I use the bucket for food storage so it serves two purposes. Hope this adds to the thread!!
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This is an interesting thread.
Lot's of interesting information & super pictures of tents.
Thanks everyone. :archer:
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Another way to wash clothes when camping. Get either those tough plastic gear bags or pack liner bags from Duluth Pack. Put a bit of water in the bag along with a little bit of soap, roll the top shut leaving plenty of volume in the bag and shake the crap out of it. To rinse do the same a couple of times with just water. Been using the plastic liner bag washers for many years on canoe trips to keep my shirts, socks and undies clean. There is no reason to have a bunch of stinky dirty clothes to lug around, when it is that easy to make them presentably fresh.
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Good stuff fellas. Keep it coming.
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My Davis in action
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Beautiful pic Greg!
I have been following this thread closely and have
one question, is it better to have the opening for the stove on the roof or the side? I would think it would be less likely to get burns from embers in the canvas if it was on the side but may not draft as efficiently. :dunno:
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That is the reason why it is from the side on my Eena tents, I have not noticed any draft issues. theory also has it that an angle it can distribute heat. One thing that I have done for my stove, I put a grid in it to suspend the fire or hot charcoals. Without it, fiery things tend to settle in the ash. Charcoals make very good consistent and easy heat, but the ash by morning can over take them, a grid a couple inches off the bottom, makes early morning warm ups a lot easier.
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Originally posted by two4hooking:
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My Davis in action
That is a pretty picture! :clapper:
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It was a fun weekend also. Turkey did not cooperate, but the trout were biting and morels were around! Cold spring day and the wall tent was real nice after our fish fry!
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Dutch oven deer roast was good too!
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My cylinder stove has a grid in the bottom like Pavan describes. Works great and easy to start.
I also picked up a nice white canvas awning which looks a little better than the blue tarp.
The folks from Davis recommended a separate awning than the rain fly for the main tent in case wind rips off the awning you are only out a little bit of money instead of the whole fly.
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two4hooking
That's a great camp. Thanks for sharing.
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Originally posted by two4hooking:
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My Davis in action
NICE image. Well done :clapper: Good looking camp too.
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Utah last year
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Last hoo rah with my sons before school kicks in is coming up. Cant decide on hiking a few High Peaks or busting out the tent to break it in some more. I have 3 trips from a week to 3 days planned for this hunting season and Im really looking forward to getting some use from it.
Great pics and tips fellas, thanks.
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Originally posted by Izzy:
Last hoo rah with my sons before school kicks in is coming up. Cant decide on hiking a few High Peaks or busting out the tent to break it in some more. I have 3 trips from a week to 3 days planned for this hunting season and Im really looking forward to getting some use from it.
Great pics and tips fellas, thanks.
Do the tent camp!!!! ;)
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Originally posted by Julian:
What do you guys use for repairing small holes in your canvas? None are any bigger than a quarter, mostly just tiny holes. From embers I assume since most are on roof of the tent. It's a fairly tough material it's a used gp small army tent.
You can get some sail repair tape, i like to cut it round, no corners, then tape both sides of the hole so you have a sticky to sticky seal. The best repair is always a sewn patch but thats sometimes difficult to do if the tent is up, your in the field.
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Frank, I have a 12x12 Pyramid tent from Panther Primitive, can be set up a couple different ways. Single pole inside , 2 poles over outside or a rope over a tree limb. I have always used the int. single pole just under 9' in center. I have Bobcat trapped out of this tent in some pretty rough weather 10 degree nights,I have a 2 dog stove and will run ya out with heat,We put down a pc. of rubber roofing for a floor and use cots, gear goes under cots, drilled center pole for some 60D nails to hang clothes and lantern on. Made a real nice toasty camp for a week and caught a cat to boot. I can set this up in 5min by myself, easiest tent for setup that I have ever owned. Some great ideas on this thread, need to try a fan in the top of the pyramid, and shower tub sounds real good. Bob