I need to choose a screw in broadhead that is roughly 250 grains. I believe I'm going to go with a grizzly 185 with a 75 grain steel adapter. Would consider a tuffhead if they made one lighter than 225, as I have decided not to use an aluminum screw in adapter. I heard that RMS may offer a 250 grain cutthroat soon. Are there any other single bevel broad heads out there that I should consider that weigh roughly 250 grains?
If you didn't want to wait for the 250 grain cutthroat,you could go with the 160 grain glue on and a 100 grain steel adapter. That would be pretty close at 260 grains.
Charlie the 250gr Cutthroat will be out in plenty of time for hunting season! I'm shooting the 200gr and they are hands down best broadhead I've ever shot! Lifetime guarantee except for loss and no better guys to deal with! I've used grizzlies and they are good heads but they don't hold a candle to the Cutthroats as far as ease of sharpening and there's no weak link adapter!!!!!!!!! I caught my arm guard last winter and the arrow hit way back on the doe I shot with them, and anyways long story short I got lucky and hit an artery, poked four holes through her hide and took one of the little wing bones on a vertebrae out and I could still shave hair with that head!!!
Vintage Archery makes the TuffHead as well as the MeatHead, that is 190 grains. Looks just like the TuffHead but carbon steel.
Abowyer Brown Bear screw-in, 250 grn, no adapter needed.
Hard to beat a 185gr. Grizzly !!! :thumbsup:
Bill
Cutthroat here for sure ..no welds or brazing it's a solid one piece head!
Helix. Various weights available. I've been using them since 2010. I've used 100, 125, 200, and for the past two years, 155 grains. I use different insert weights to make weight.
I bought some of those 200 Cutthroats recently and am totally impressed so far. Hope to have some more experience in the field with them come this fall.
ChuckC
I'm not a fan of broadhead adaptors at all, but I use them with no problem. They're another component which affects alignment and centering. I don't have any problem with them as far as strength or durability. I would much prefer a strong single-bev screw-in with all the other features I want. I currently favor (and have for years) the Abowyer Wapiti glue-on combined with a steel adaptor to equal 250 grains. I just really prefer the dimensions of this head over everything else I've seen. Since they don't offer it in a screw-in config, I continue to use adaptors.
Lots of good s-b heads on the market, so it's pretty much a matter of what you prefer. There is no best or even way better head out there, but I suspect there is some cheaper stuff. Happy shopping!
My experience and preference mirror's Kevin's. There are several other good single bevel broad heads out there. I just adopted Abowyer's when they first came out and have been shooting them ever since. Still shoot some double bevels as well because I've been shooting them for ages.
Abowyer 250 looks good. I would prefer not fooling with adapters. I will buy in August to give me a few weeks before Oct 1 opening day here, so hopefully the cutthroat is out by then.
I will say $45 for 6 grizzlies sounds better than $60 for 3 abowyer stainless. I suppose I won't lose any of them unless I make a really bad shot (possible haha)...if paying 2-3 times more guarantees they will not break I say it's worth it...what do y'all think? I had a grizzly Kodiak 200 bend a little after shooting a rock. The grizzly 185 is thicker steel therefore stronger. I know any of these heads will be very effective on deer, but I am willing to shell out a few extra $$ if the head will legitimately last longer and remain undamaged after heavy bone/rock impacts.
Cutthroats from RMSGear all the way
I've been shooting Grizzly Broadheads for 5 years and really like them. Currently shooting the 235 gr. Kodiak plus a 75 gr. adapter. I shoot in a BH league in the summer, shooting into sand pits and the Grizzlys stand up for a whole summer of shooting and they don't break the bank. I know we spend a ton of money on a lot of stuff in this sport but personally I choke at dishing out $15 each for any broadhead when I can get all the performance I need out of an $8 broadhead.
I wanted a 3:1 ratio, screw in at 200gr but its not availble anywhere so I decided to go with the Cutthroat 160 glue on and the Abowyer titanium adapter@35gr, with glue it should be close enough. I dont think you can go wrong with the cutthraot. I also ordered the extra unsharpend head for practice. win win.
If you are interested in value priced heavy screw ins I invite you to take a look at the Tusker line up.
Link: Tusker Broadheads at Braveheart Archery (http://www.braveheartarchery.us/tusker_broadheads.htm)
When I spoke with RMSGear at the CTAS High Country Shoot over the weekend they said their new 250 gr screw-in Cutthroat and 190 gr glue-on are in the mail to them now. Hang tight for them to sharpen them this week because the Cutthroat is the best broadhead I've ever tested. It'll shoot into 1/8" steel without damage to the head. Try that with any other broadhead (excluding VPA) and you'll be very disappointed. They're CNC machined from a single piece of high strength steel, heat treated and teflon coated. They sharpen up to scary sharp easily too.
I killed two p&y mulies and a bull elk last year with 200 gr grizzlies, I decided to shoot wood this year and gritted my teeth and bought a dozen cutthroats, OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, I have found my new best friends!
Grizzlys are nice but my personal favorite when it comes to single bevel is ABOWYER broadheads,,, I just got some LW Abowyer whitetails from the classifieds that finish up at 247gr for me,, I think 1 1/2" wide and LW single bevel that are scalpel sharp,,,,, I'm shooting them from a 44# recurve and can't wait for September now.
there's a guy selling RW single bevel Abowyer whitetails in the arrows classifieds here for cheap.
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Thanks to the original poster of this thread. I was reminded that I needed to replace a couple heads, so just talked to Cody at Abowyer and ordered more Wapiti heads.
I've yet to kill anything with them yet but I'm extremely impressed with the abowyer heads. Can't wait to run one through a deer this fall.
QuoteOriginally posted by Braveheart Archery:
[QB] If you are interested in value priced heavy screw ins I invite you to take a look at the Tusker line up.
Those Tuskers have probably killed more game in Australia than any other broadhead.. they're good to go!
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie3:
Abowyer 250 looks good. I would prefer not fooling with adapters. I will buy in August to give me a few weeks before Oct 1 opening day here, so hopefully the cutthroat is out by then.
I will say $45 for 6 grizzlies sounds better than $60 for 3 abowyer stainless. I suppose I won't lose any of them unless I make a really bad shot (possible haha)...if paying 2-3 times more guarantees they will not break I say it's worth it...what do y'all think? I had a grizzly Kodiak 200 bend a little after shooting a rock. The grizzly 185 is thicker steel therefore stronger. I know any of these heads will be very effective on deer, but I am willing to shell out a few extra $$ if the head will legitimately last longer and remain undamaged after heavy bone/rock impacts.
First off, I think Abowyer is a great company that makes great broadheads and have great customer service. That being said they make several styles in various materials, thickness, hardness, and dimensions. To that I say choose wisely and match the head to your needs. I really like screw in heads so I tried the 250 Grain Abowyer Brown Bears Carbon Steel. Precision manufactured, wicked sharp, but to me too soft and prone to tip curl with the overall dimensions & thickness. I could not accept the tip curl on simple double lung pass thrus or worse on heavier bone. Stainless would be harder but more brittle. Abowyer was great to work with and they recommended the "Boneheads" for a more robust solution. Again precision manufactured, wicked sharp, and now robust even on double lung pass thrus that exit the ridge bone of the lower scapula on large bucks... :-) To me, I feel the biggest reason to go heavy single bevel is for increased penetration in bone. If the broadhead tip curls, breaks, degrades, etc. in those conditions then the benefits quickly drop off... The Boneheads do not quite have the longer dimensions I prefer in 3:1 heads BUT they are robust and flat out get the job done!!!:-) I believe they performed flawlessly on a large whitetail with heavy bone on exit.... Happy to answer specifics or show pics of tip curl via PM if it helps. Abowyer is GREAT, just choose wisely for your needs. I'm sure they'd be happy to discuss. And of course the admonition to consider/select wisely applies to all manufacturers not just Abowyer. I just had specific experience with some mentioned in this thread. Humbly submitted... KAZ
I shoot 225 but also use the Abowyer Bonehead with a 75gr. titanium insert.
Cant say enough about this head..
300g tuffheads!!!
exit side-treestand shot 7yrds----
oh and Joe is top notch to deal with!!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie3:
Abowyer 250 looks good. I would prefer not fooling with adapters. I will buy in August to give me a few weeks before Oct 1 opening day here, so hopefully the cutthroat is out by then.
I will say $45 for 6 grizzlies sounds better than $60 for 3 abowyer stainless. I suppose I won't lose any of them unless I make a really bad shot (possible haha)...if paying 2-3 times more guarantees they will not break I say it's worth it...what do y'all think? I had a grizzly Kodiak 200 bend a little after shooting a rock. The grizzly 185 is thicker steel therefore stronger. I know any of these heads will be very effective on deer, but I am willing to shell out a few extra $$ if the head will legitimately last longer and remain undamaged after heavy bone/rock impacts.
If you break/bend a cutthroat they will replace it, not sure about shipping as i just drive over to the shop, i shot mine into gravelly sandy river bottom and just resharpened them and shot somewhat better the next time. I never paid that much before for heads, I'm notoriously cheap! But after sharpening them up easier than any other head i ever used i started realizing just how worth the price they were. And they are tailor madefor a kKME sharpener, no worrying about how you place them into the clamp, just put them in until the ferrule is up against the clamp. Very repeatable placement and thus angle retention.
Oh i forgot to mention, the 250gr are likely to go fast so i wouldn't wait till August, that's when everybody locally is gearing up hard for elk season here
The 250 grain screw in is now showing on the website. I guess the 190 grain glue won't be far behind.
Yes, just saw the 250 grain head is up on RMS site. I wonder if it is longer than the 200...there is just one photo. I think I'm leaning that way. I've used Grizzlies to kill some game and they've worked just great, but I like the idea of not fooling with adapters and glue. I'll post if I pull the trigger and tell y'all what I think about em.
Another vote here for the Helix. I am really liking these heads.
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie3:
Yes, just saw the 250 grain head is up on RMS site. I wonder if it is longer than the 200...there is just one photo. I think I'm leaning that way. I've used Grizzlies to kill some game and they've worked just great, but I like the idea of not fooling with adapters and glue. I'll post if I pull the trigger and tell y'all what I think about em.
I believe they are the same dimensions as the 200gr screw-ins but don't have the milled out areas but don't quote me on that. The penetration results so far on the 200gr heads has been phenomenal and the 250 should be even n better!
The new 250 grain screw-in is the same width as the 200 gr screw-in but is 1/4" longer to gain the 50 grains. The 250 gr screw-in is 2-1/4" long. I like the longer profile better for penetration through bone.
The 190 gr. glue-on is the same profile (1-1/8" wide x 2-3/8" long) as the 160 gr. glue-on but is slightly thicker steel with shallower cut-outs to gain the 30 gr.
Do a search for "Cutthroat Broadheads First Look" on page 4 are photos of all 4 broadheads for comparisons.
I just want to mention, that not all single bevel broad heads are created equal and I don't mean in the stability / durability sense. I went to a single bevel grizzly because of what Dr Ashby called and forgive if I get this wrong but I thing he called it mechanical action or MA. So if your shooting a single bevel because of the unique bone splitting MA that a single bevel can offer I think you need to consider a few things. In my opinion I think that the width to length ratio combined with the width of bevel itself is very important in getting the most MA out of your s/b broadhead. The Grizzly broadhead is a very good start and I would use that an example or standard to judge other single bevel broad heads. For me, Grizzly broadhead is very hard to beat for the price and is a very durable broadhead.
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