I know some, if not many on here will say it is blasphemous, but I recently purchased a DAS universal mount and a DAS B SRF sight. Saturday I taped the mount to my ACS CX, installed the B SRF sight and started shooting. Frankly, I really have no concern as to what others might think or say. I'm concerned about me and my thoughts.
Actually, I initially didn't tape the mount on the bow because it didn't appear as though the bow's window was tall enough for the mount and sight to work. I eventually decided to do it anyway.
After I taped it to the bow and started shooting, I was pleasantly surprised to find that its use resulted in great groups at 10 yards. Then I started shooting it at 20 yards. The groups were not quite as consistent or accurate at 20 yards.
Then Budro, the owner of the shop came over, stopped me, took his Black Feather longbow and showed me what I was doing and then illustrated what I should be doing. After focusing more on my shots, the bow started shooting great groups at 20 yards with occasional fliers at 20 yards when I didn't maintain a rock solid bow arm. After shooting awhile, I removed the tape, removed the backing from the adhesive on the mount and secured the mount to the bow.
I went to the shop yesterday and shot it again. The bow was shooting great until I got tired and started losing focus. I'm ready to take the bow to IL the end of the month. I'll be setting up on trees at 15 yards from where I expect the deer to be. The best beware the bight of the arrows coming out of my ACS CX!
Bill
Hmmmmmmmmm......... I don't know! By the way, didn't Jack Howard for one, use a sight?
P.S. Good luck on your upcomming hunt.
Do What Makes You Happy! So Long As It's Legal!
... mike ... :wavey: ...
In the late 50s and early 60s when I was a kid in WI, the dads of friends of mine who shot longbows were using hat pins stuck into a strip of cardboard taped to the belly of their osage bows. Sounds pretty traditional to me. I put a sight on a couple of my recurves periodically when I feel my form is in a slump (more often than I'd like) and it is pretty easy to define what I'm doing wrong. Once I correct the mistakes to my satisfaction I take the sight off and usually find that my instinctive shooting has really been improved.
Most derogatory comments regarding sights, etc... are based in fun or ignorance.
I've heard some good things about that type of setup...I may try it at some point.
Nothing wrong with a sight as far as I can see, if it makes for a better chance at a killing shot/vs a possibly wounded critter at normal hunting distances, then by all means do it. You will catch crap from some but you sound like a guy who can take it :)
It's not an issue unless you are a new born trad guy....just deja vu.
Hey Wildman, Jim here. I shot in Europe for two years and all those folks shot recurves and longbows using sites. Or, they were "string walkers" so they were at "point on" for every shot! They shot very light poundage and were deadly accurate. To bad they could not hunt with a bow over there.
I have seen a picture of Fred Bear shooting his longbow with a sight way back(1930's?). Well before many other archery advancements came along that are now considered "traditional". If you like it, that's all that matters. I've got a couple old Bear bows with sights and enjoy shooting them like that.
A wooden match works wonders as well, just a piece of tape and the match and you have a very nice and accurate sight. Shawn
I've heard some good things about that type of setup...I may try it at some point.
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Hey Brian...does this mean your taking off that 5 Pin Fiber Optic Laser sight off your recurve?
Wow...I thought your setup was pretty neat!!!
Individuality is a beautiful thing! Good luck on your hunt! CK
Won't hear any screaming from me. Each person needs to decide what he/she wants to shoot.
I think Rusty shoots one of those. If you have any questions just email him.
Bill you stongly supported me when because of health reason I had to lay down heavey poundage stick and string for hunting and go to an Oneida. Pardner you do what is best for Bill and hang the hind quaters who say you are worng. GET ER DONE!
Thanks folks! I got a typical TradGang response. And if you don't know what that is, then you are not a true TradGanger! ;) :D
Bill
Gotta do what works for you and don't let anyone talk you into doing something else.
Bill,
I have one of those mounted on a Horne Recurve hear at the house for new guys that come over and want to learn to shoot a bow. It focuses the mind on a single area. Isn't that what we are trying to do?
Good for you!!
Mike
Good for you Bill. I shot SRF sights on a couple of my bows for several weeks. I found almost intstant increase in my consistency and accuracy, which I've maintained even after taking the sights off.
The SRF sight is great as a stand alone system, or as a training aid...
Where in IL are you gonna be? :campfire:
Bill,
How does that sight do if you cant the bow? I noticed on Masters of the Barebow that David Soza shoots with his bow pretty much vertical and the sight is kind of oval shaped (if that is the one you are using).
You won't hear any complaints from me about sights. I don't use them myself (though maybe I should), but they have been used for 70+ years, so I don't see how they are any less traditional than laminated bows or metal riser bows. I happen to like longbows and 50's style recurves without sights myself, but if the sight helps you make a clean harvest of a game animal, what's the problem?
Russ
After an ugly spine shot i decided that my recurve needs to wear sights for the rest of the season. (lack of adiquate practice at distance. due mostly to pesky neighbors who will call the cops if i shoot in my yard... despite a huge shed as a backstop!!!) The deer deserve my best and that requrese sights for this season!
so... i vote yes to that!
Bill, ya know what I think of the SRF. I got 3 bows set up with them and if I don't use them I string walk.
It is not what means you use to put the arrow thru both lungs, it is that you do it :) . we know that left and right misses are far worse for game recovery than up and down. the SRF will stop the lef and right misses period.
rusty
If anybody has a problem with you doing that, then they're the one with the problem. But, I suspect you already know that.
WHAT?? Did You expect US to DisOwn ONE Of Our OWN??? :scared: NOT A CHANCE!! :thumbsup:
CONGRATS on the DAS Bow and Its Goodies!! :clapper:
(Besides, Its Only Got ONE String, Right? :goldtooth: )
If I got it right; wildman was trying to correct his shooting error- and found it was his bow arm not behaving. Nuttn wrong wid dat!
Fred Bear once told me that the BEST way to find out what your doing wrong with your shooting; is to shoot an opposite hand bow. That is if you shoot right handed; shoot a left hand bow as if you were left handed.
I have tried this; and its worth a thousand laughs at yourself; because whatever your doing wrong shooting - will show it self: times a hundred!!
Does anyone have target pins that are shaped like a half circle- for shooters that cant their bows? :)
Fletcher,
I'll be in Union County in the Anna, IL area. It's about a 10 minute ride across the river to Cape Girardeau, MO.
trashwood,
I know what your opinions are. I read them every day on TT. :)
Shakes,
I no longer have the DAS bow. I've sold it and gone through several wood risered bows and I'm now shooting an ACS CX 3-piece longbow and a Crow Creek Black Feather 3-piece longbow. I've got to get the second Universal Mount set-up on the Black Feather so I have it sighted in and shooting well with the SRF sight, too.
Brian,
The shape of the SRF sight lends itself well to canting of the bow, at least it has for me thus far with the ACS CX out to 20 yards.
Bill
HGi Wildman, My eyes are getting prety bad and Ill start using a sight. Just not sure which one I want
Bill:
In a more "inconspicuous" view, I have a friend that trims the strike plate on his bow and sights down the top edge. He trims it until it is dead on at 20 yds and adjusts up or down for other distances. He seems to win numerous 3D tournaments that way too. Not at all instinctive (to me) but I guess...."To each his own".
Just make sure that you calibrate it for no more than 17 yards!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Myles keller killed a good chunk of his critters with a stick bow and home made sight....
QuoteOriginally posted by KodiakBob:
Just make sure that you calibrate it for no more than 17 yards!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob,
Sorry, it is pretty much already calibrated for 20 yards. However, by the time I go to IL I may be limiting myself to 17 yards, if not 15 yards! It is deadly at 15 yards.
Bill
Bob,
I found photos of it at wwww.kineticbows.com they are real descriptive and show the actual hardware and how it goes on the riser. I know some guys that have made homemade sites that look similar. And they say they were pretty well, and they improve their groups when they take him off.
Thanks
Carl
BEWARE!!! I imagine in my mind(scary... might not wanna look to deep in there...) -The trad police have gotten wind of this and are combing the woods of S.C. to remove your right to shoot trad :scared: ... Sorta like the dumb Miller High Life commercial... sorry.. had to look and know that on another board that'd be the response.."EGADS!!! a sight on a bow?"
I am sure you're doing what is right for your situation! And if keeps you from stepping back to a wheelie bow or a X-bow with battery operated sight and as long you're having fun!!! Then thats all that counts...