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Title: Bow Arm???
Post by: wisconsinteacher on June 01, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
Do you have any tips or training drills for me to work on so I don't drop my bow arm?  If I focus on keeping it up until the arrow hits the target, my groups shrink.  I want to get to a point where I don't have to think about it.

Thanks
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Post by: longstiks on June 01, 2015, 07:12:00 PM
Like a rock! If you think it long enough it will become ingrained  :) .
Denny
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Post by: Cavscout9753 on June 01, 2015, 07:40:00 PM
When I do "form work" I like to repeat the steps in my head as I go through them on the shot, "spot, draw, anchor, release, hold". The arrow striking the target denotes the end of that shot (obviously, I know). Whatever steps you find note worthy or whatever wording you assign is up to you, but it works for me. Holding post-release was an issue for me as well (and still is after I get complacent), as well as proper anchor. I tend to "float" my anchor out about 1/4" from my lip if I don't focus on it. In my case things such as breathing, lining up the arrow tip, nocking an arrow, etc are implied tasks but if you want a longer process go for it.
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Post by: McDave on June 01, 2015, 07:42:00 PM
As you are aiming the bow, you should be aware of the arrow shelf in your sight picture. If you keep it in the same relative position in your peripheral vision as the arrow is flying down range as it was when you were aiming the arrow, it will do a couple of things for you. First, it will force you to hold your aim until the arrow is released, and second, it will keep you from dropping your bow.
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Post by: DennyK on June 01, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
Matt, your follow through is as important as drawing your bow, try pushing with your bow arm until you get the feel of it. Push/Pull and don't break your form until the arrow is in the spot you were "aiming" for. This always helped me.   Denny
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on June 02, 2015, 02:33:00 AM
What i've always coached beginners to do that seems to help the follow through a lot is to guide the arrow to the target with your bow.....

Pretend there is a string attached to that arrow that you need to pull tight with your string hand against the top of your shoulder, and keep the string tight between your bow & string hand while you guide the arrow with your sight window.....

I don't really care for the "Push / Pull" explanation because it can encourage arm movement on your bow arm... That bow arm shouldn't be flexing at all...... Watch some video of Jimmy Blackmon. He's got great form.

here's a good one... That bow arm never moves.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwd-B-m4_8o
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Post by: mcgroundstalker on June 02, 2015, 06:54:00 AM
I like to think if you draw with your back, the "push-pull" becomes automatic and does steady your bow arm...    :archer2:    ...
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Post by: LongbowArchitect on June 02, 2015, 10:41:00 AM
Holding my bow arm on-target after release cures 90% of my accuracy problems.
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Post by: LoneWolf73 on June 02, 2015, 11:09:00 AM
More practice, but I do not think it is a bad thing to have the thought process of waiting to move anything until the arrow hits the target.  Being mindful of your arrow hitting the target is good in target practice and hunting. So do not stress about "having" to think about it.  Besides that is only one thing to concentrate on, vice back tension, form, anchor point, grip, release. keep it simple.
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Post by: MnFn on June 02, 2015, 01:23:00 PM
A problem I have to fight also.  Kirk's fix is similar to what I try to do. Concentration is a must, wandering mind= wandering arrow.
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Post by: eidsvolling on June 04, 2015, 07:05:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by mcgroundstalker:
I like to think if you draw with your back, the "push-pull" becomes automatic and does steady your bow arm...       :archer2:       ...
This. When you feel the appropriate back tension and things are lined up, it's time to release. The sequence requires conscious thought, unlike breathing to stay alive, but it does become ingrained through proper practice.

BTW, by "things are lined up" I mean the alignment of bowhand, string hand, elbow and shoulders. I'm not referring to any conscious sighting one way or the other and have no wish to stir the pot on that question.      :D
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Post by: Charlie Lamb on June 04, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
Focus on release. As your release hand does so goes the bow hand.
Hold your release hand solid in your face on release and your bow hand will stay steady... as per John Schulz.
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Post by: Pine on June 04, 2015, 08:28:00 PM
Make a frame with 2 x 4s that has a horizontal part about 18" . The height to be about 2" lower than your arm .
Drive nails put threw the board sticking out a bit .
Shoot with it under your for arm and you will break the habit of dropping your arm real fast .
This is not a joke , we had one in the archery range back in the mid 70s and it works great .
Interesting thing is , you probably won't poke your arm at all . The mental training starts on the first shot .
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Post by: Terry Green on June 04, 2015, 08:30:00 PM
Proper Alignment....the 'Magic T'.