Trad Gang

Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: fnshtr on April 10, 2015, 02:31:00 PM

Title: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: fnshtr on April 10, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
Just got a "new to me" KS from Joe on the classifieds. (Thanks Joe!)

Specs are 53#28 and I draw 27". Bow is 56". Bow is tillered even. I shoot 3 under.

I have 400 spined GTs (55/75) and Traditional Only 400's. Arrows are 29" valley of nock to BO broadhead.

The bow is quiet and fast (to my eye, not chronoed yet) but arrow flight is a bit erratic.

Three under shooters...
What is your brace height?
What is your nocking point measurement?
Arrow spine?
Draw length?

Any other pertinent info you can share?

Thanks,
Wayne
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: Producer on April 10, 2015, 02:55:00 PM
I would try 500's cut to 28". That should be stiff enough for 50 to 51 lbs at 27" draw with 100 to 125 grain heads. I shoot 500's in my 45 lb at 28" and I draw 29" with my arrows cut to 30" and they fly great.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: 9 Shocks on April 10, 2015, 03:53:00 PM
Not sure on how a kwyk styk riser is cut, BUT I shoot a cut to center longbows at 50lbs @ 27"s and the best arrow flight I have achieved is from a 29.25" gt trad 3555 with 50 grain brass insert and 150 grain head.  My bow that shoots that combo braces at 8"s. nock height is 11/16ths.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: joe skipp on April 10, 2015, 04:30:00 PM
Arrows are too stiff. You need 35/55 spine, and minimum of 260 grains up front. Also suggest leaving the arrows 29".
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: fnshtr on April 10, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Thanks!

I'm playing with it now.

Any additional recommendations appreciated.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: Bladepeek on April 10, 2015, 07:53:00 PM
I agree those arrows are too stiff (or too short) for that bow. I just finished tuning up some 5575s for an EFOC setup for my 46# bow. I'm running 31 7/8", with 400 gr up front and they fly like bullets.

If I reduce the point weight to a more common weight like 175gr, I'd need a much heavier bow. If I cut them back to 29", I'd need a LOT more bow than 50-51#.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: damascusdave on April 10, 2015, 08:03:00 PM
What Joe Skipp does not know about a Kwyk Styk does not need to be known...other than Jack himself of course

DDave
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: The Night Stalker on April 10, 2015, 10:14:00 PM
Be gentle with that back Wayne.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: fnshtr on April 11, 2015, 08:46:00 AM
Doing physical therapy right now for the back Tim.

Been able to shoot with no "additional" pain. Thanks though for your concern.

And,thanks for the help guys. I fletched up a Traditional Only 500 spine shaft last evening. Anxious to try it today.

Set my brace to 8 1/4"... adjusted noc to 5/8" high.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: fnshtr on April 11, 2015, 08:49:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by joe skipp:
Arrows are too stiff. You need 35/55 spine, and minimum of 260 grains up front. Also suggest leaving the arrows 29".
Sounds right to me. I will try the 100 grain brass insert with 175 grain point. That should put me a tad over 500 grains total and about 10gpp.

Appreciate your assistance Joe.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: Bowshot on April 14, 2015, 12:04:00 PM
Start with your brace height at 7 1/2" and adjust a twist at a time from there. You will end up within 1/8" either way depending on your release.
The kwik styks are awesome, I have a dozen if you are wondering if I have any experience with them. They are my go to bow. Three fingers under will affect your nock placement from mine. Shoot a bare shaft a few times at 5 yards then move back a bit until you are drilling the center at 20 yards.
Thats the quickest way to determine if the shaft is way too stiff.
I adjust brace height by sound, it will go "quiet". Seems to be the best.

Terry
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: damascusdave on April 14, 2015, 01:08:00 PM
Hey Terry...good to see you posting here...I finally picked up a great Kwyk Styk last fall...had I bought it first I might have as many as you do...that old man knows how to build a bow

DDave
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: fnshtr on April 14, 2015, 01:15:00 PM
Thanks Terry. I messed up by fletching and cutting the only 500 spine arrow I had before shooting it bare shafted.

However, it really shoots well. After only a few days I am shooting the KS better than any bow I have ever owned, and I've owned a few.

I am getting ready to order new arrows and will definitely do the bareshafting before fletching.

Again... I really appreciate the help.

Wayne
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: damascusdave on April 15, 2015, 10:19:00 AM
The thing I find the most fascinating about Jack is that he is still building bows, still bowhunting, at age 83...we can all take encouragement from that

DDave
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: Joeabowhunter on April 15, 2015, 08:41:00 PM
Hey Wayne, I'm just catching up on TG.  I'm really happy to hear that you're enjoying the bow.  I hope you enjoy many successful hunting seasons with it.

Joe.
Title: Re: Kwyk Styk shooters (help please)
Post by: fnshtr on April 15, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
Thanks Joe. I am hoping to finally break my turkey jinx this year. I've taken bear, elk, lots of deer and small game... but have yet to anchor a tom.

I'm watching a longbeard just about everyday from my front porch.

I'll be sure to show off the bow in the hero pics!
Good luck to you too.
Wayne