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Title: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 19, 2015, 03:58:00 PM
We just got in a 45# RH Black phenolic Super Kodiak and now we have three different Super Kodiaks so I was wondering, what is everyone's favorite model?  Oh, and if you want to buy one of these, call Lost Nation Archery at 888-800-7880.  3/25 we got a 50# black beauty in!
  (http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq215/lostnationarchery/Super-Kodiak-Trio.jpg) (http://s449.photobucket.com/user/lostnationarchery/media/Super-Kodiak-Trio.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Tom on March 19, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Left and right hand bows trip my string. Larry, should have said the right and left bows in the picture-not looking for a dual shelf. If I tried to shoot left hand God only knows where the arrows would land.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 19, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
Sorry, Tom.  It has been over 50 years since Bear made an ambidextrous Kodiak and they never make a dual shelf Super K.  I will agree, they are fun.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: PaulDeadringer29 on March 19, 2015, 05:00:00 PM
Close your eyes, pick one at random, send it to me, and I guarantee I would be happy.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: JRY309 on March 19, 2015, 05:58:00 PM
I thought I heard the Grayling Green SK are being discontinued? I like the black SK!
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: L82HUNT on March 19, 2015, 07:25:00 PM
Whatever the middle one is
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: David Mitchell on March 19, 2015, 07:40:00 PM
The middle one is the Super Kodiak in Dymondwood which is no longer being made since the mill where it was made burned down.  I hear no plans are in the works to rebuild. Too bad because that is a beautiful bow.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: David Mitchell on March 19, 2015, 07:42:00 PM
Larry, what is the riser the one on the right is made from? Is that the future wood riser?
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Bryan Korte on March 19, 2015, 07:45:00 PM
Glad to see some of these are shipping out. Definitely the phenolic Super K for me.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Chad Orde on March 19, 2015, 08:02:00 PM
I held that phenolic today wow is all I can say.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 19, 2015, 08:30:00 PM
The riser on the right is bubinga and yes, the Grayling Green with bubinga riser was discontinued this year.  I happened to pick one of from another dealer who was going out of business.  David, I had not heard anything about the dymondwood factory burning down.  That would be huge.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Florida lime on March 19, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Original note from a supplier:
"Special Note to our customers: Dymondwood is manufactured exclusively by Rutland Plywood Corp at a single facility in Vermont. That factory was destroyed in a catastrophic fire in late August 2014. "

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2014/08/21/firefighters-battle-blaze-rutland-business/14377305/
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Gator1 on March 19, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
There all nice.   Wow
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: widow sax on March 19, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
All very nice looking but I would have to go with one of the ones on the ends.     Widow
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: R.V.T.B. on March 19, 2015, 11:43:00 PM
You have them displayed in order of my preference, left to right.  1st would be the phenolic, then the two tone followed by the Bubinga.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: pdk25 on March 20, 2015, 12:31:00 AM
I guess I will buck the trend. I actually think the one in the middle is not very attractive.  Sorry.  Bubinga first, phenolic second, dymondwood last.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 20, 2015, 08:22:00 AM
I just heard from Neil Byce at the Bear factory.  He writes:
the dymondwood is a thing of the past as it manufacturing plant burned to the ground. We have been transitioning to impregnated maple on everything that was dymondwood. Most of the bows have been converted but some dymondwood remains in the bow pipeline.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: zepnut on March 20, 2015, 08:39:00 AM
Hard to beat the Phenolic.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: David Mitchell on March 20, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
Larry, any idea what the impregnated maple looks like colorwise?  I have a Super Kodiak like the one in your picture that has to be replaced and Neil said it will be with the impregnated maple.  I am a bit disappointed because I really like that Dymondwood riser.  I am not disappointed in Bear service though. Not their fault that the Dymondwood is not available now.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Clint B. on March 20, 2015, 09:15:00 AM
All 3 are great looking bows, but I would go with the middle Dymondwood. It matches my Bear Patriot longbow.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: dbd870 on March 20, 2015, 10:01:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by zepnut:
Hard to beat the Phenolic.
I like the looks of it the best as well.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Burnsie on March 20, 2015, 10:28:00 AM
Phenolic for sure, have always loved the '68-"69 SK
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 20, 2015, 10:47:00 AM
David, I wish I knew.  I just went to their web site and the Dymondwood Super K isn't even listed.  I also have to wonder what all the other bowyers are doing.  I'll push on my connections to get an answer.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Clint B. on March 20, 2015, 12:54:00 PM
I also notice on Bear website that 2015 Patriot description says Futurewood riser although photo still shows Dymondwood.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: David Mitchell on March 20, 2015, 12:54:00 PM
Yes, the only Super Kodiak they show now on the web site is the phenolic model, but he told me my replacement bow will be impregnated maple.  Maybe they are in process of replacing the Dymondwood with the impregnated maple and just not showing it yet.   :confused:
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 20, 2015, 01:02:00 PM
I've seen them to be very slow on updating pictures in the past.  I hope yours is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: David Mitchell on March 20, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
Thanks, Larry.  I have seen a picture of the Grizzly in brown Futurewood--a 2015 model, so I guess that's what color they are using.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: myshootinstinks on March 20, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
The pic below is of a 2015 "A" riser that I rec'd directly from Bear, it is a replacement for an older riser that was still under warranty. I think this is the maple they're using in place of the Dymondwood. Often turns out streaky like this but not always.
 I like the phenolic, about my favorite of the Super Ks.

  (http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b619/dugly51/IMG_2692_zpsjlyppmdi.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/dugly51/media/IMG_2692_zpsjlyppmdi.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: R.V.T.B. on March 20, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
I love the looks of that A riser take down!!!
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Chinook on March 20, 2015, 04:31:00 PM
I like the one on the left - more phenolic in the riser will make it a bit heavier in mass weight - I like that feature too.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Chinook on March 20, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
I like the one on the left the best.  More phenolic in the riser will make it a bit heavier mass weight - I like that feature too.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Chinook on March 20, 2015, 04:34:00 PM
I like the one on the left the best.  More phenolic in the riser will make it a bit heavier mass weight - I like that feature too.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Clint B. on March 20, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
I've always wondered about the making of Bear Future Wood, or Predator Future Wood, or Ram Wood (Bighorn Bows)or Wonder Wood(Shakespeare Archery). I assume they vacuum impregnate the blocks of riser wood with the dyed resin before any sawing or shaping is done. Otherwise, how could you make a two-color riser. It's hard to imagine the color going uniformly all the way through the thick block of wood. I'd like to watch the process.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Otto on March 20, 2015, 11:18:00 PM
I have a Bubinga Grayling Green.

I don't have a Black Phenolic one.

That may be about to change.......
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: lbshooter on March 21, 2015, 08:11:00 AM
Since the 56-66 Kodiaks are among my favorite Bear bow, I like the bow on the right and bought a 60" when first introduced. While the piece of bubinga and finish is lacking on my particular bow, it is one of my favorite shooters.  It is deadly on 20+ yard bunnies.
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag252/caputo_art/3b5cfcda619f3f89d6aa68b2cfb9e646_zps3d8078ca.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: cmh on March 21, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
All three of the Super K's are gorgeous and I would be proud to own any of the three and tickled to death to own all three.... As for the Takedown riser..... WOW.... I like that better than any of the new ones I've seen....  ;)
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 21, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
Today I was looking at the bows on the rack in my shop and I realized the last Montana to arrive has the resin impregnated riser instead of Dymondwood.  It is the same color so I never noticed it before.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Heat on March 23, 2015, 02:13:00 PM
The phenolic is a beauty but the Grayling Green is my personal favorite.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: on March 23, 2015, 03:27:00 PM
I made some really good hunting shots with my Super Ks, I should not be looking those pics. Do the new phenolic Super Ks have a deeper grip than the originals?  I think that they are one of the bows versatile hunting bows ever produced.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: ChuckC on March 23, 2015, 08:07:00 PM
Bear had a video of its operations back in the 50s or 60s, I think it was titled " Rural Route Grayling" or similar.  In there was a brief overview of how they made bows, including how they made futurewood.  Of course, it was brief, but to the point.  I was totally impressed by his machinery.
ChuckC
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: elkken on March 24, 2015, 12:05:00 AM
Love the one on the left ...
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on March 25, 2015, 05:37:00 PM
Just got a 50#'er!
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: sutts on March 30, 2015, 11:41:00 AM
Please post some pics if you can Larry.  Looking forward to seeing some views of both sides and the gloss finish on the limbs.  Got a 55# on order but it's weeks away yet.

Thanks,

Dave
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: LostNation_Larry on April 01, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
Sorry, Dave but I haven't had the time to take pictures lately.  Will see what I can do.
Title: Re: Black Phenolic Super Kodiak or...
Post by: Bryan Korte on April 02, 2015, 05:17:00 PM
Sutts I have some pics posted on another thread of the new Super K that I brought back to the top for you to look at.