Hey all,
Well this week I got my first taste of shooting a Hill style bow. I got the pass around bow that's going around from Liberty Bows. It's the ENGLISH model with the handle that's not a standard type of handle, I don't know what he calls it. What a great longbow. I love shooting this bow. So light and quiet, it's remarkable.
So...I thought I'd ask you guys a question. If you were going to get a Hill style bow, what one would you get and why? I guess you could list your top choices to make it easier.
I don't know enough about all the different ones available to list them, but this Liberty would be ideal if it had a standard grip, which he does offer. I also like the JD Berry bows too.
Nalajr
Toelke Super D
One from Howard Hill Archery. Great price, good shooters proven to hold up to the test of time, great people to deal with and you will get the bow you order.
Don't know if you can truly consider it Hill style. But I really have been eyeballing those Super D's!! :p
Northern Mist Classic (on the list)
JD Berry Morningstar ( on the list)
Howard Hill Archery Jaguar ( brand new series)
I could go on and on....
QuoteOriginally posted by Matty:
Don't know if you can truly consider it Hill style. But I really have been eyeballing those Super D's!! :p
Close enough for me.
I have HHA 2 Wesley Specials, 2 Cheetahs , and 1 Big Five. I also have a Northern Mist Shelton. All are great bows. I have shot bows by J D Berry but unfortunately don't own one yet. There are many good Hill styles out there, but these are the only ones I have enough knowledge about to strongly recommend.
You had it in your hand. Although, I chose Allen's Classic. From the first shot I thought this is a special bow. Just so you know, this is my third go-around with a longbow, the first was a disaster for me, the second was just OK. Third ones a charm.
They definitely are not all the same. And I am sure there are some really good other bows out there. But I am very happy with this one.
68" and 54# by the way, and I never thought I would own a bow that long. So smooth and so gradual in draw weight, it really is a joy to shoot.
I'd have to to JD Berry. And specifically a Morningstar.... Why..... It feels the best to me. I can shoot the MorningStar better than any other ASL ( Hill style), it feels great in the hand, has above average performance, quiet, shock free, and very pointable.
As to why JD Berry.. Well after owning most of today's bowyers offerings, and shooting the others that friends have owned, and owning a lot of vintage ASL's, from Meigs to Schulz to Jerry Hill and Louie armbuster I have not found anything that can top the bows I've gotten from James. Plus his OE bows (current) are some of the most artistic pieces of works that I have seen.
I'm a fan of berry bows.
Lots of great longbows out there and hard to find a bad one.
Howard Hill has the name and the performance is dependable, the quality of workmanship excellent,
price point very affordable, and quick delivery.
J.D.Berry is my favorite although I do make my own and have for many years. James bows have been top of the heap for a very long time. Great performance and unimaginable style.
I own or have shot, Hills, Savora, Schulz, Martin, Jerry Hill, Sky, and probably a couple more I've forgotten.
You'd be tickled pink with a Berry.
Mine is a Vixen. I much prefer a standard Hill style grip on my longbows.
jd berry if you can get on his list.hill would be my 2nd choice Ted ekin makes an excellent longbow.
I almost pulled the plug on Allens string follow after the reviews. I own 3 chiefs and couldn't justify another. Two of them are brand spanking new, the 3rd looks like I've rolled down Everest with it but she keeps on shooting.
You wont regret buying a bow from Allen!
That said I think the others mentioned are all good as well, tough pick. In the end you've shot one if it shoots well I'd stop looking. there's just too dog gone many good bows to play with and only two hands to shoot them!
Hard to beat the English! I shot one at the longbow safari last year and had to buy it:)
Bama bows tribute royal takedown....
Probably would get a Mohawk or if Bigfoot has his made yet one of those.
God bless, Steve
JD Berry Vixen
Northern mist, no contest.
Never owned one but I guess if I was going with a Hill style I might as well start with a Hill Bow.
Wow, didn't know about the pass around bow. That's cool!
Like Mr. Lamb, shot alot of different ones over time.
I would try for a Dave Johnson and or an early made Hill Tembo!
Alot of fine shooters made in the 80's, 90's, the resurgense period of this great bow design, and real archery!
Check out some of the ole archery mags, too!
"Hill style".....why a real Hill of course. ;) I also would suggest Northern Mist. Craig Ekin will get a new custom Hill to you faster than anyone out there (I have never waited more than 2-3 weeks on one). I like the fact that I don't have to wait and wait or get on a list to have Craig build a bow for me. Currently he has a ton of stock bows listed on his site--unless you are a lefty! I haven't had the chance to shoot a J. D. Berry but no doubt they are excellent as well.
I have a few HHA bows. Since getting my Morningstar from JD Berry, they are getting dusty. HHA bows are very good, but there is just something about the Berrys that puts a big smile on my face when I am shooting it.
JD Berry Vixen
QuoteOriginally posted by Paul Cousineau:
Northern mist, no contest.
This would definitely be my second choice
Love my Morningstar and Vixen.
Longriver Longbow hands down. Absolutely beautiful and a great performer too.
I had a Mohawk Sparrowhawk that was a "righty" and I'm now shooting "lefty", so it went away. I currently have a JD Berry Morningstar and love shooting it, but I hear Vince may be cranking up his production again and I'd love to try another Sparrowhawk in left hand version.
There are two bows that I want to own...I already have one of'em. The other is definitely an Allen Boice Classic. Can't wait to test drive his English which should be about a month out. I know there are plenty of great bows and bowyers out there, but I would consider myself lucky to own those two. While they may not be a true "Hill Style", these ASLs are my favorite type of bow by far.
Bill-
JD Berry Vixen would be my choice.
Here are my latest two bows. The first is from Craig at HHA.
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This one is from JD Berry.
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Get on JD's list as soon as possible. James' OE series are truly some of his most magnificent work. The Vixen is worth the wait.
Then order a bow from Craig at HHA (or even pick one out from his "In Stock" list) and learn to shoot it. By the time you receive JD's bow, you will be ready for the Vixen. After all, once bitten and infected by the Hill virus, the is no cure. You can only treat the symptoms with another bow.
I like this post. Lot of variables. Lot of good to great offerings. The ASL rebirth if you will on this site has been great to see. I have been a selfbow guy for years now but have of late gotten the itch to purchase another ASL. Have owned a hill and loved it but it was too heavey for me and traded it. I now have a ASL that was made by a local bowyer who was trained by Schultz it is a good bow (no longer makes bows). So I make my own and have a ASL but that itch. The guys at the top of their game who are in demand (waiting list) would be a down the road bow for me. If I wanted a ASL now I would go
McBroom, 7 Lakes, Bama, N Mist, Hill in that order
Northern Mist !
I agree with ya, Jack! Ordering from the fresh new bowyers like Mcbroom!
Also a selbow lover and shooter, my first 2 selfbows I got from Gary Davis black locust snd osage have deep narrow handle and 66" long! Gary said his handles were copied from his Big 5 Hill!
Pearl Drums made a sweet ipe backed Hill this past year I would love to shoot.
Also those Naturals that Charlie and Tracy build would be sweet to shoot, too!
If you are talking true "Hill style" it would be a Sunset Hill or a Schulz Natural(need to find them used) and Miller's split bamboo.
Also am partial to the Liberty string follow and the Abbotts(also need to find used).
Always wanted a HH bow so between Christmas and New Years I went on the HH website and ordered one that was in stock, a Big 5, it was the length and draw weight I wanted and it looks nice with the caramelized bamboo, very light in the hand, fun to shoot....its a keeper!
If I were going to get an Ekin Hill bow, I don't think I'd get one of his stock bows unless it was exactly what I wanted. If they were discounted, that would be different, but if I am going to pay the same amount, I want a bow that I have been thinking about for a while.
I have thought that if I ever do get an Ekin Hill style, I want a JUNIPER bow. That stuff is just so gorgeous to my eye. I mean it drives me crazy when I see a Juniper Hill bow because of the beauty. It makes me want to pick up the phone and order one right then and there. I love that white glass too. I don't know how I would configure the rest of the bow, but those 2 parts are "MUST HAVES" for me if I order one from him.
My top choice is a Dave Johnson. I love the looks of those bows. The bad part is that if you aren't on his list right now, chances are you aren't going to get one. I talk to him by email about every month or so and have been for about a year and he has had to cut back his building to only a few per year cause he has to take care of his life long mate, his beloved wife, which is his #1 priority. He just doesn't have the time or energy to make the bows like he used to. So, if I were ever going to get one of his bows, it would almost surely be USED.
This English bow I have been shooting for a few days is a helluva bow too. Although it is my first toe into the Hill Style pool, I like it. The weather here has been horrible and I have only been able to shoot it 3 times in a week. I think I have to send it back really soon, so I am going to try and get as much shooting as I can with it until then. The grip style is different for me though. Not bad, just not what I would order for myself. It's not something I am used to. I love shooting this bow though. It really did open my eyes to why you guys love these bows so much.
I guess that's why you don't see very many USED ones for sale.
Thanks all.
Nalajr
Larry:
If you're interested in a true Hill Style bow you might want to also add one of my Sherwood bows to your options list. Here I go again, if you'd like to try one out I could send one your way.
Allen
Hey Mr. Boice,
Your bow is already on my list.
I've been to your website several times checking your lineup. I wanted to see what other options you had in addition to this English that I am enjoying.
Great looking bows.
I'm afraid that if one of those bows came here, I'd be in a bad way cause I wouldn't want to send it back. Not a good thing right at this point when my "fun money" hasn't built back up yet.
Larry
I've got a Howard Hill Tembo that is almost forty years old and bought it new from Howard Hill Archery when Ted and Betty Ekin ran the shop. It's a great example of ASL bow. Steve Turay of Northern Mist is going to make me a Shelton some time in the near future. I chose that over the Whisper and Classic while shooting each at his shop a month ago. On the used side a Coffey built Shrew Hill is a nice bow. I've also shot Ron laclair's personal Miller all bamboo string follow. Very smooth, well behaved and quiet.
JD Berry for sure but where I already own two of his bows that would be very hard to beat and his list is long I think I would order a McBroom, OR 2nd a Northern Mist!
like Brian above I too have owned almost all of the Hill brands out there including harrison's Hill HHC and Strunk's Version I think JD Berry so far for me and what I have personally tried are the Best Hill bows made "" from what I personally have tried""
but whats in the pot looks tasty and I havent tried them all so based on Price, wait time, and quality MCBroom would be next even though I never shot one!
On the list for a Morning Star, have a Whisper several Hills a North Star and a really nice Kimsha. Just great bows to carry on a stump shoot.
I would look at a bow from Mcbroom Custom Bows. They look really well made and they are a sponsor. Price seems pretty agreeable to. Gabe
Lets not forget TwoTracks ECHO,very sweet bows. Burt
QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Probably would get a Mohawk or if Bigfoot has his made yet one of those.
God bless, Steve
a mohawk isn't a "hill style" longbow (afl, or american flat longbow) - it's a mild r/d hybrid that braces to a "D" shape.
Semantic nomenclature ...
The "Hill Style" longbow is an AFL - American Flat Longbow.
The "Flat" part means that although it contains many of the characteristics of the English longbow (ELB), it's missing the ELB's rounded belly, hence both an AFL's back and belly are flat.
The AFL limbs are either dead straight, or back set (reflex) or belly set ("string follow").
If a longbow combines back and belly set (r/d, or reflex/deflex), it's no longer a "Hill Style" AFL, it's now some flavor of a hybrid r/d longbow.
If a braced longbow has that classic AFL "D" shape, you may be surprised when it's unbraced and you see that the limbs are mildly snaked. Yup, ain't an AFL, it's longbow hybrid r/d. :)
Hope this helps a bit. :campfire:
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Probably would get a Mohawk or if Bigfoot has his made yet one of those.
God bless, Steve
a mohawk isn't a "hill style" longbow (afl, or american flat longbow) - it's a mild r/d hybrid that braces to a "D" shape. [/b]
Best kind
QuoteOriginally posted by awbowman:
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Probably would get a Mohawk or if Bigfoot has his made yet one of those.
God bless, Steve
a mohawk isn't a "hill style" longbow (afl, or american flat longbow) - it's a mild r/d hybrid that braces to a "D" shape. [/b]
Best kind [/b]
yep, but it ain't an AFL - yer mixing apples 'n' oranges. ;)
I have one, it's a Hill Custom...
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Six lams of Bamboo for the core, clear glass on the belly, black glass on the back with Rattlesnakes, Macassar riser with checkering. 68", and in the mid 80#'s at my draw. I've owned a few over the years when the "Hill Bug" bites, but never enjoyed shooting them. This one is a pleasure to shoot, and doesn't beat me up like the others did... I don't think I'll be dropping my MOABs or my Widow curves, but this one will do nicely when that darn "Hill Bug" bites!
That ad on the back of TBM with the green glass Great Northern causes me to pause every time.
You mean like this? My Northern Mist Shelton. I love colored glass. It is so much more like the old bows I grew up on. Steve Turay and Jerry Brumm had a full run of green glass made just for their bows--they call it great northern mist green.
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There's a lot of good bowyers out there. I've own some bows by bowyers who have been receiving a lot of praise here on this site and rightly so. For me my favorite so far is my HH Redman. Its not the fastest, or the prettiest, but I like it the most. Very little hand shock, smooth drawing, just a pleasure to shoot. Its 68in. backset design, to me its as smooth as any I've shot. Once in a while you find that one bow that fits you just right, mine is the Redman.
Toelke Super D for me!
QuoteOriginally posted by SquareHead:
Toelke Super D for me!
hmmmm. i've only seen some unbraced images of that bow and it sure does looks like the mildest of r/d designs, not a true AFL.
Rob, Please define AFL. and also tell us what constitutes a true Hill style bow. Also can a longer riser or a foreward riser be a Hill style? The only sure thing I know is that they can have backset or be straight or be string follow. Other than that I plead long term ignorance. Also can that backset have any curve over the full length of the limb or does it have to be a straight limb? Stuff like that. I am assuming (dangerous to do) that the unstrung profile is as important as the strung profile.
Thanks and God bless, Steve
Hope you can see it on this picture of my Super D. The yellow is my 4' level lined up over the center lam of the bow. The brown line is a walnut lam that is between the bamboo lams.
Anyway the straight edge of level shows that the Super D only has reflex and is straight in the riser area. I think the overlays on the riser give the illusion of deflex in riser. I have been wanting to do this for a while just to satisfy my own curiosity.
So conclusion, the Super D is a true ASL or AFL, whichever you prefer, and is a great one at that!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Rob, Please define AFL. and also tell us what constitutes a true Hill style bow.
i did that on the previous page 3 of this thread, next to last post.
Also can a longer riser or a foreward riser be a Hill style?
imo, yes.
The only sure thing I know is that they can have backset or be straight or be string follow.
yup!
Other than that I plead long term ignorance. Also can that backset have any curve over the full length of the limb or does it have to be a straight limb? Stuff like that. I am assuming (dangerous to do) that the unstrung profile is as important as the strung profile.
it's all about the unbraced profile. if you see both limb reflex and deflex in the riser, then it's a hybrid longbow with some amount of r/d to both the limbs and riser. it's usually pretty easy to spot, but it must be on an unbraced bow. lotsa mild r/d longbows will brace to that classic "D" shape but are clearly not AFL's. i have one, it's a mohawk sparrowhawk - not an AFL. my 7 lakes longbow is a true AFL, with only some string follow.
in most instances, adding in r/d makes for faster arrow speed. the trade off can be "stability", of which a true AFL usually has in spades.
back a goodly while, one clever pair of bowyers created a longbow that braced just like a classic "D" shaped ELB or AFL, but when unbraced the geometry of limbs and riser clearly showed visible r/d. this was the 21st century "edge" and it was used several times to win the IFAA longbow world championships, which only allows ELB or AFL type longbows.
the "edge" clearly was a much faster longbow, thanx to that built in r/d. so why was this ringer longbow allowed to compete?
the foolish IFAA allowed it because their rules stated that any BRACED longbow that didn't show "flip at the tips" (the kind of recurve like flip that aggressive r/d longbow shows) was allowed in their tournament. when a straight edge was moved around the braced limbs, and no light showed 'tween the bottom of the straight edge and the back of the limbs, then that bow was considered a "true longbow in the ELB or AFL style" and allowed to be used in their tournament.
the "edge" passed with no problem. amazing how a bit of smart bowyer design and limb engineering can be allowed allowed by the IFAA to cheat at their true longbow tournament. a travesty on many levels and a blight on world trad tournament archery.
hope some of this helps a bit! :campfire:
Thanks and God bless, Steve
QuoteOriginally posted by neargeezer:
[QB] Hope you can see it on this picture of my Super D. The yellow is my 4' level lined up over the center lam of the bow. The brown line is a walnut lam that is between the bamboo lams.
Anyway the straight edge of level shows that the Super D only has reflex and is straight in the riser area. I think the overlays on the riser give the illusion of deflex in riser. I have been wanting to do this for a while just to satisfy my own curiosity.
So conclusion, the Super D is a true ASL or AFL, whichever you prefer, and is a great one at that!
you got it, an AFL for sure.
i have no clue as to what "ASL" means ... someone school me, please.
Northern Mist Classic. Steve is putting one together for me in the next few months. 66"51#@27. Bamboo core with brown fiberglas on back and chocolate brown glass on belly. Shedua riser. He has redesigned his riser and calls it "old school". It has a more defined radius into the fades. Very sweet.
Hey Rob, American Semi Longbow. I know a lot of the "Hill Guys" use that term and it is in Howard Hills "Hunting the Hard Way". I think it was meant to differ it from English Longbow that had the D limb profile, but I am certainly no expert.
QuoteOriginally posted by neargeezer:
Hey Rob, American Semi Longbow. I know a lot of the "Hill Guys" use that term and it is in Howard Hills "Hunting the Hard Way". I think it was meant to differ it from English Longbow that had the D limb profile, but I am certainly no expert.
ah so, thanx! it's still an AFL to me. :D
Rob I am asking these questions because I build a bow called the Frontier which has a long riser foreward riser but straight string follow limbs. The riser is 20 inches. from fade to fade . Is there any reason that this bow would not be considered a Hill style bow? (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Frontier/bow12.jpg) (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Frontier/bow16.jpg)
Thanks and God bless, Steve
wow!!! steve, what a beauty! while due to that super long riser and fadeouts, and the deflexed handle, i don't think it could be called an AFL - but heck, who cares, it's dang gorgeous! and with string follow, too! wowee!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I'm going to lay one up and flip it for a backset bow and see how it comes out. Will be interesting and will put the riser on the right side. I will shorten the fades up to a 16 inch riser and see how the thing shoots. I love everything about the forward riser bow though . I sped her up some with double carbon and Action boo lams. The shortness of the limb works the outer part of the limb and is something I picked up from a picture of Howard Hill tillering one of his bows.
Thanks for the info and if you ever want to shoot one of these I will send you one I have here to play with a bit.
God bless, Steve
While not true Hill styles perhaps, I never can get what the big deal is between variants like the eaglewing or mohawks or even my robertsons. I have shot Mohawks and lots of Robertsons, perhaps I can tell that a 70 inch AFL is different than a 60" R/D, but when the AFL gets shorter and the R/D gets longer, that stability/forgiveness line is hard to find. I certainly do not find that I need to change anything in my form and they seem to handle the same. For someone going from a deep gripped recurve to a longbow, perhaps a mild R/D or sixby's variation could be a better choice as a first low grip longbow.
I'd get one from Hill archery in Hamilton, MT
I have one & it's a great bow. I'd get another.
I'd get a two tracks echo
I just picked up a new to me Kramer-built Hill Tembo, 68" 56@28. I think my Big Five is gonna get lonely this year
Howard Hill. Just got my Legend Stick. Very nice looking and a great shooter. Shown below with my 50's vintage "Green Dragon". There is some similarity.
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Regarding the Super D-- the strung profile on the one I had had very slight reflex in the last few inches of the tips. Not sure if mine was different from other Super D's in this respect, but I never considered it a true "Hill-style" because of the slightly reflexed tips when braced.
Just my opinion here but I've tried a few Hill style bows and settled on the Northern Mist Retro Classic, slight backset, green glass through the handle and all at a decent cost.
Here is a photo of one of the three Super D's that I have had. If you look at the center lam you will notice that it bends away from the straight edge slightly all the way. Others may be different, but mine are not reflexed in the tips.
Sorry if we are getting off base from the original post.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
James bows have been top of the heap for a very long time. Great performance and unimaginable style.
I havn't the background of many here in this thread, especially Charlie but I echo what he has already said here...I have owned two HHA longbows, one Miller Ol'Tom, a NM Whisper and a couple Sunset Hills. I liked then all, each having its own distinct characteristic "feel" - preferred the Miller above the others. Just me...
Based on what I have heard consistently these past 12 months, I'd jump at the chance to own one of the JD Berry ASLs. Incredible long-enduring and well deserved reputation.....dressed to kill!
Thanks for the Super D pics. Interesting to know
a McBroom done in Cedar!
80# Howard Hill yew Redman, 70".
QuoteOriginally posted by Benny Nganabbarru:
80# Howard Hill yew Redman, 70".
You de man,,, that's WAYYYY too much poundage for me but I like the Redman.
No one has mentioned Big River ASL's. Big River ASL's and Two Tracks Echo's are among the best!!
I should have my new McBroom reverse handle ASL in a few days........can't wait to try it. I now have a few Hills, a Few N. Mist, a JD Berry and the McBroom.........I'm love'n them!
Sunset Hill if I could get one, otherwise another Northern Mist.
another Shelton #65@26 with green glass and antler tips please!
Liberty English and Toelke Super D in 68"
I have a couple McBroom's and my friends all have them also. Hard to beat all things considered.
I should have a 7 Lakes by the end of the month string follow carolina night. Also a Berry Heritage in July. Then a Mcbroom cedar by end of fall.
QuoteOriginally posted by Jack Skinner:
I should have a 7 Lakes by the end of the month string follow carolina night. Also a Berry Heritage in July. Then a Mcbroom cedar by end of fall.
Wow you are really going to town! :thumbsup:
Another Northern Mist. It would be a hard decision to pick which model though.
Awww I'd just get one from Howard Hill in Hamilton, MT.
JD Berry Vixen for me has been the best Hill style "ASL" longbow I have shot in 30yrs of shooting trad.
the 2nd best is a Big River 3rd was a Harrison HHC those for me and my personal experience have been the top 3 bows that really wow'd me... its funny because the epitomy of the ASL bow the one that started it all the Howard Hills are nice bows and by no means a straggler in this but for the way I shoot I guess they just didn't click.
JD Berry Vixen for me as well
My choice would be a Liberty. Allen Boice is a great guy to work with and builds a very nice bow. He has to be- he put up with me and all my questions when he built my Chief. That's not a Hill style, but he does make them.
Gary
Northern Mist without question. Get your hands on one and fling a few arrows and you will know why.
JD Berry Heritage or a Northern Mist Classic.
I got the call from Medicine Lake yesterday, thought it called for a celebration.
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My Heritage may even be here before I leave for the CTAS High Country Shoot.