Is the Lone Wolf 6 point safety harness a decent one that comes with my Alpha Tech F1 stand? Or is there a much safer and better one that can be recommended? Looking to be safe as possible while up off the ground. :D
I like the HSS vests.. easy to put on and effective
Nothing wrong with the Lone Wolf harness. They're all safe if you wear them. After that, it's s matter of comfort and convenience. Some may be a little more comfortable or convenient to put on than others, etc.
The harness that came with the stand will function, but will be will be less convenient and comfortable than a higher end harness. If you hunt treestands a lot, the nicer harnesses are worth it. I like the Summits Seat of the Pants models and have an HSS lightweight that is pretty nice. I think the newer HSS are also USA made; don't know about the new SOP models.
IMO you want a safety harness that has d rings or loops to attach a line mans belt. Especially the way you are planning to hunt.
I think you will find getting a good seat of the pants, spider, etc harness will not only be better but also more comfortable and more functional. The harness will actually become a valued tool that helps you rather than a safety item you wear because you have to.
For store bought lineman belts lone wolf makes the best. For a great lineman belt check my videos.
I'll second LB hntr linesmans belt. His safety video is excellent and shows you just how easy it is to always stay connected to the tree no matter what using his variation of the linesmans belt.
QuoteOriginally posted by warden415:
I like the HSS vests.. easy to put on and effective
X2..I love mine!
Seat of the pants for hanging stands and got a HSS Ultralite for hunting both are nice. Good luck.
QuoteOriginally posted by KyStickbow:
QuoteOriginally posted by warden415:
I like the HSS vests.. easy to put on and effective
X2..I love mine! [/b]
X3. I have the Hunter Safety Systems UltraLite Flex. Great harness. Add the lifeline w/prussic and it's as safe as they come.
Another HSS fan here
Thanks for all the replies and tips. I went ahead and ordered an HSS system to go with my stand. :thumbsup:
Glad you found a system you will like.
This next part I only say because in a different post you mentioned that you were going to hike in, hunt, and hike out taking the stand in and out with you each hunt. If that is the case you will still need a harness that has d rings or loops for a linesman belt.
A like line or tether will not work. See the life line or tether only works for stands that stay in one spot all season. You still need a linesman belt to hang any stand. The tether is only good once the stand is set up and stays up.
I'm not nor would I ever knock a tether, but a tether is only a tool for stands that stay all year in one spot. The lineman belt is the only safe way to hang a stand. The lineman belt is the most important tool for hanging a stand. IMO a lineman belt and a harness that has d rings or loops for a lineman belt is mandatory equipment for anyone that hunts from a tree.
Ok, I cancelled my order for the HSS system and am now looking at the SOP harness. Makes sense what you are saying. I am planning on carrying the stand with me in and out and will not be leaving it overnight. And I will use a lineman's belt as safety is my number one concern.
I ordered the Summit Seat-O-The Pants Fastback harness. Now got to work on getting some Lone Wolf climbing sticks. :D
You will like the SOP. Make sure it has the horizontal chest strap to keep the shoulder straps pulled in place. Great design, and it has the loops for a lineman's strap/belt/rope for hanging stands or steps, etc. Just tie off on the tree HIGH, KEEPING AN ALMOST-TAUGHT ROPE UPON SITTING IN YOUR CLIMBER WHILE HUNTING.
Hunt safe.
Since you're going to be hiking in, setting your stand and hunting each day, I thought I would share with you a system of doing it which works great. I use this system when I'm hunting public land and it's slick! Only one trip up the tree and you're hunting! Also, I make sure my harness has the lineman's belt and a back tether. Before I step onto the stand, I connect my tether above the stand while my lineman's belt is attached below the stand. I unclip the lineman's belt and step on the stand, so I'm never unconnected to the tree while climbing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76EVLGJ-9L4
Thanks Dennis! Having never done this, that video was a great instructional and gives me a starting point on what to do. Very much appreciate that!
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=131634#000004
Wannabe, check out this thread. This set up is great.
I don't even take out of the bags the harnesses that come with stands. They are too easy too tangle. I'm sure they are plenty safe, millions of $s in liability ride on em.
I like the very light weight harnesses by Spyder, etc. I'm not a fan of the vest harnesses even though I started with those. I don't want to spoil my attempts to "match the hatch" with my camo pattern by covering it with a vest. Seriously, in early seasons the vests add heat to my set up that I don't want.
Ditto on having a harness that has linesman loops. To me it is a must. The Summit SOYP will be great for you! I personally use a Black Diamond Momentum with D loops sewn in. I like it better because it's ultra light, it limits my fall to no more than foot or so, it allows an easy recovery back to my stand.
Mint, thanks for that link! Very informative. I've got my stand now, waiting for delivery of the SOP harness and still got to get the climbing sticks. I will practice plenty before heading into the actual woods. :thumbsup:
Wannabe1, I made the linesman belt showed with the ascender and it works much easier than the ones you buy. With the one shown you can adjust with one hand while the ones you buy you must use two hands to adjust.
Mint, Thanks for mentioning the lineman belt.
Here is a video I did on how to make them in full detail.
http://tbwpodcast.com/video-28-making-your-own-lineman-belts-and-tethers/
Here is another video showing me going up, setting a stand, and coming down using that lineman belt.
http://tbwpodcast.com/video-29-super-fast-way-to-hang-a-tree-stand/
Jason, I want to thank you :bigsmyl: for taking the time to do these videos. They are really great for newbies to stand hunting like me! I have learned a lot and am anticipating the time to put it all to good use. Come on deer season!
I see you had success while hanging that stand with the little black critter that ran by! :biglaugh:
Thanks!! I'm glad the videos help.
The kind of hunting you are about to get into is a wonderful way to chase critters!
You are going to have a great time!