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Title: Arrow holder
Post by: Pine on February 18, 2015, 12:05:00 PM
I am looking for the arrow holder that has the rubber grip on the end of a thin round rubber finger . Don't know what they are called or who makes it . I have got them from the local archery shop , but they are gone now . I have looked on line for them and can't find them . I like them better than the Kwicki type but if I cant find them I guess I will have to go that route .
So does anybody know what they are called and where to get them ?
Also is there a neat way to make an arrow holder ?
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Orion on February 18, 2015, 12:07:00 PM
It is called a Sta Jac.  Went out of business quite a while ago. Several other companies made good copies of it under different names, but as far as I know, no one is currently making them.  

Best arrow holder out there, but scarce as hens teeth.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Pine on February 18, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
Now that I see the name the light bulb went on . That's exactly what I am looking for . Not made any more explains why I can't find them .
So is there a better one than the Kwicki ?
Or is there a slick way to make a home made arrow holder ?
So many clever people on here , there has to be someone that has come up with something simple and affective .
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Msbow on February 18, 2015, 12:54:00 PM
Graps,
Are you shooting a longbow or recurve and do you have a rubber grip or leather laced on grip on the handle? If you do just slide a piece of plastic like a zip tie in between the grip and the handle sticking up about an inch above the shelf it will keep it from falling off there are other ways but that's the easiest I've found.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: smokin joe on February 18, 2015, 01:02:00 PM
Grayling Outdoor Products makes one that is almost identical to the old sta jac. I use them and they work fine.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: T Mowery on February 18, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a571/GrimesvilleAssassin/archery004_zps7810ffc9.jpg)

Like these Dale?
Got these off the BIG site quite awhile back.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Pine on February 18, 2015, 01:31:00 PM
Terry , that's exactly what I am looking for . where can I get some ?
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: DanielB89 on February 18, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
how do those even work?  lol
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: T Mowery on February 18, 2015, 01:40:00 PM
There is a set of 3,up for bid now on the site.It's up to 14 bucks.If you cant get one that way,give me a jingle back and we will see what can be done about getting you into the drivers seat of one.    :goldtooth:

You are most likely going to see that set of 3 max out around 30-35 bucks,if what I paid was typical of the product and scarcity.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Pine on February 18, 2015, 01:55:00 PM
Thanks for the offer but you need to hang on to them . I am going to try and find the knockoff that is still out there . Just don't know what that one is called or where to get one .
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: T Mowery on February 18, 2015, 01:59:00 PM
The copy I believe is called GOP 135 Perfect Arrow holder,by grayling.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: vitalinvader on February 18, 2015, 02:49:00 PM
I hit the lotto last fall while hunting up north and stopped at a gas/ sporting store in Mn. They had 3 on the self for $1.50 each.  The owner was working and told me they have been in his store since 1984 and couldn't get ride of them.  Wish he had more just a bunch of old cobra sights and stuff.   Best arrow holder you'll find imho.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Lechwe on February 18, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
T Mowery,

Those are perfect. I've been looking for those for a long time. I ended up just calling them and ordering right from them. $3.95 each.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: T Mowery on February 18, 2015, 04:52:00 PM
Darrell
I remember when the gent had them listed on the bay,He was listing them one at a time,and I just kept on buying them.I was the only bidder actually. Kept trying to buy all that he was listing,when he sent me a message,to let someone else have a crack at them????? Still trying to make sense of that one,seeing that on most,I was the sole bidder???LOL???I paid around 12 a pop minus shipping for them,when all the wash is done.But Im glad to have them.There not coming back again,thats for sure. Thats america for you.If it works real well,stop making it!LOL
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: gutpile580 on February 18, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
I have some of the grayling prefect arrow holders and work great!
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: KSdan on February 18, 2015, 05:46:00 PM
I had a bad experience with the Sta-jac. After an all day sit in in very cold weather the rubber got hard- would not release the arrow as I drew on a big buck at dusk.  Imagine at full draw and the nock is still floating in mid-air between the string and the riser. . .ARghhhh.   Kwik-loc holder since then- 15 years now and no failures!

2C
Dan in KS
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Orion on February 18, 2015, 06:12:00 PM
Do you shoot three under?  I've been out in mighty cold weather and have never had trouble with the sta jac releasing.  I shoot split fingers so they're located on either side of the knock when I draw.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: KSdan on February 18, 2015, 06:40:00 PM
Orion- I shoot split.  Not sure the deal- but that blasted thing got hard and locked onto the aluminum 2219 shaft.  I sat there all day waiting for that exact buck! 5 minutes of light left and here he comes. . .  12-14 yd shot slight quarter away. . .  140" already on the wall and meat in the freezer. . .and a trad bow- the simplest hunting weapon on earth- failed me.    :banghead:      Unbelievable!  I heard other similar stories.  I switched to Kwik-lok (sp?) arrow holder.

Dan
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Charlie Lamb on February 18, 2015, 07:54:00 PM
try this link
 arrow holder (http://www.amazon.com/Grayling-Outdoor-Products-Perfect-Holder/dp/B0000AVEWX)
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: KSdan on February 18, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
Just my 2C- but whatever you end up with, put it in the freezer for a few hours then see if it is still pliable. Also put it on an arrow with some moisture- then freeze it. See how it works.  At one time the actual "Sta-Jac" was the best rubber out there.  Many of the "look-a-likes" were worse.  Again- I have found the Kwik-lok to pass all my tests.  

Dan in KS
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Lechwe on February 18, 2015, 09:25:00 PM
T mowery

I'm not sure you understood me. I called and ordered this afternoon. They still make them.
http://www.graylingoutdoorproducts.com/gopproducts.html

These are awesome. I haven't had any issues in cold weather.

Good luck

Darrell
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Lechwe on February 18, 2015, 09:26:00 PM
Charlie

That's the one.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Pine on February 18, 2015, 10:35:00 PM
Wow , never had one fail like that . That would really suck .
I can see how it could happen though .
I used the Kwik way back in the 70s , might just go back to that one .
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Fletcher on February 18, 2015, 10:39:00 PM
Graps, I have several of the Game Tracker versions and there are some Sta Jacs on the big auction site now.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Orion on February 18, 2015, 11:42:00 PM
Lech:  That site has similar arrow holders, but not sat jacs.  Should work fine though.  

Fletcher, mention of the three on the auction site is really pumping up the bid.  It's at $25 already with more than a day to go.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Charlie Lamb on February 18, 2015, 11:57:00 PM
Years ago I had a StaJac hold onto the arrow and pull it off the string as I drew on a buck.

From that point forward I pull and release the holder before I start to draw on a deer. No problems since.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Orion on February 19, 2015, 11:13:00 AM
Yep.  I do that too, charlie.  The instant I see a critter, my first move is to release the holder from the arrow.  Should have pointed that out above.  Good advice.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Lechwe on February 19, 2015, 03:53:00 PM
Orion. Correct. I have used the StaJac but prefer these since they release much easier. I will admit they do not hold an arrow as securely but I'm OK with that.

Good luck
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: LC on February 19, 2015, 09:44:00 PM
I gotta agree with the nay sayers. I've never had good luck with that model. For lots of reasons. Still use the Kwikee model and never had it fail or give me problems.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: KSdan on February 19, 2015, 11:13:00 PM
You guys who are cool headed enough to go through a checklist when a deer arrives are gifted! When the mystical beast arrives in my zone- my knees start shaking and I go on auto-pilot. Last thing I could think of is to make sure the arrow holder released the arrow. I couldn't even use sight pins back in the day!  All the reason I went to trad- NOT for the challenge, but to REDUCE the challenge. I NEED fail safe!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: bucksakemmer on February 20, 2015, 07:30:00 AM
Give RMS a call I bought one there last fall
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: tracker12 on February 20, 2015, 08:00:00 AM
GRAPS
PM sent to you.  I have a few extra I can part with.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Roger Norris on February 20, 2015, 11:44:00 AM
I just use a rubber band with a toothpick.....works great, cost is ZERO
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Onehair on February 20, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
 (http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad269/Onehair/IMG_0824%20-%20Copy_zpsvcmg3b4i.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/Onehair/media/IMG_0824%20-%20Copy_zpsvcmg3b4i.jpg.html)

I like this model but may be considered to high-tech.
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Pine on February 20, 2015, 08:30:00 PM
Hay Onehair where do you get one of those ?
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Pine on February 20, 2015, 08:33:00 PM
Big thanks to tracker12 , he is giving me one of his holders .
  :archer:
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Homebru on February 20, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
I'm with Roger Norris.  A piece of bamboo skewer and a rubber band.

QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
I couldn't even use sight pins back in the day!  All the reason I went to trad- NOT for the challenge, but to REDUCE the challenge.
I missed a toad of a deer at my in-laws....from about 6 yards....because I was staring where I wanted to hit the deer and forgot I had sight pins.  Sold that bow and bought a Stillwater Aberdeen recurve.

homebru
Title: Re: Arrow holder
Post by: Onehair on February 21, 2015, 10:18:00 AM
Graps, out of the very tree I was sitting in. I shot 4 deer with this bow this year and forgot to pull the holder all 4 times. It had no effect on arrow flight