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Title: Cock feather
Post by: Steiger3208 on February 15, 2015, 05:49:00 PM
For quite some time I've been having a slight kick to my arrow no matter what point weight I used. Not real bad but still noticeable. So today I put the cock feather in and now they fly perfectly with bullet holes paper tunning. I was curious if most of you shoot with cock feather in?  Thanks.  Wes
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: the rifleman on February 15, 2015, 05:55:00 PM
Hi Wes,  I got the same reaction when I had tried this.  A well known bowyer told me that this usually occurs when the arrow is close to tune, but slightly stiff.  I always tend to over analyze and am constantly tweaking, and am coming to realize that when something like this works out--that's great.  See if it makes any difference in your point of impact at 20-25 yards---for me it put the arrow alittle more in line with where I was looking.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: fling on February 15, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
Was having the same problem with my wife's bow was driving me crazy. I also turned the cock feather in and arrow flew true.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: TooManyHobbies on February 15, 2015, 06:33:00 PM
Cock feather in shoots best from my recurve. Cock feather out for my longbow. It bugs me because it seems like it's wrong, but it works.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: goingoldskool on February 15, 2015, 07:01:00 PM
I run cock feather in as well.... although i don't  know why, exactly.... my arrows fly true either way.

I started out shooting  with it in and not ever gave it much thought until a fellow trad buddy called me out on it at a 3rd shoot.  I finished a little higher on the score and attributed it to shooting with it in!    :laughing:  

God bless,
Rodd
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: OregonTom on February 15, 2015, 07:34:00 PM
I have some cheap  wallyworld carbon arrows with short green and white vanes that fly better for me when I shoot cock feather in.  On my cedar arrows in or out doesn't matter seems to be the same flight.  I'm shooting off of a plastic flipper rest.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: Hummer3T on February 15, 2015, 07:40:00 PM
cock up for my recurve is best.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: Orion on February 15, 2015, 08:04:00 PM
I find that shooting cock feather in works quite well on bows that are cut well past center.  Usually don't need to do it on bows cut proud of or to center. Raising the nock point will also usually handle  the situation in which the hen feather just slightly catches the arrow shelf, which is what causes the little blip in initial flight.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: PeteA on February 15, 2015, 08:45:00 PM
Cock feather in here as well. I shoot it in because it give me a second anchor.  Top hen feather touches the tip of my nose and middle finger in corner of the month.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: Gen273 on February 15, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
I shoot cock feather in on all my bows.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: warden415 on February 15, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
I shoot in on some bows and out on others. I honestly think if you are marginal  on spine one way or the other may work better..
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: Steiger3208 on February 15, 2015, 09:13:00 PM
PeteA that's what I started doing today also.   But instead of just an other anchor point it allows me to use the feather as my release trigger. When the feather touches the tip of my nose I release. The way it was before the feather was to low for my anchor.  No more short drawing.  Wes
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: ISP 5353 on February 15, 2015, 09:26:00 PM
I shoot cock feather in.  Just works for me.
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: archer66 on February 15, 2015, 10:05:00 PM
I've read a lot about tuning arrows to the bow and several of the articles and guides have mentioned that once you get that perfect arrow flight while bare shaft tuning that it might be necessary to rotate the fletched arrows to find the best orientation when shooting off the shelf.  

I'm far from a pro but I took this advice to heart and have been experimenting with different feather orientations....
Title: Re: Cock feather
Post by: slowbowjoe on February 16, 2015, 08:13:00 AM
I noticed a significant difference with my set up when I tried cock feather in a few months ago. Asked about it here also.
So I've been experimenting/observing with it for a bit now.

For me, it looks like what some of the good feedback I got suggested: it can make a difference if your spine is kinda marginal,
maybe less so if the spine is closer to optimal.