hi...i've been shooting gold tip 5575 traditional carbons for over 4 years and some of the fletching and cresting is looking pretty ratty.....
i strip the feathers off and remove the cresting, a process which i've done before and then repaint and re feather....and lo and behold a new set of arrow for me.....
but here's my problem.....i can't get the yellow plastic nocks out...and i can't remember what type of glue that i used.....i've tried pulling them out with pliers but no luck, nada, zilch....they don't move......the nocks are yellow, but the new arrow color scheme will have white nocks...
any ideas on how to get them out?....thanks for your help guys!
bob
I hate to tell you this but I do not glue mine in. Never had any problems with them coming out while shooting.
You might be stuck with yellow (no pun intended).
If you have not fletched yet, you could cut off about 7/16" of the nock end to get rid of them but then tuning your new set might be a problem.
One other risky way would be to cut/break off the nock and drill out the old nock stem. A 15/64 drill bit would be close but not the .246 ID of the shaft leaving you with a little sanding to get the new ones to fit. I think a 15/64ths is .2343.
do you need to remove the nock ? if so try dipping them in boiling water for a few seconds, grab with pliers and twist/pull. probably ruin the nocks though. be careful not to soften the carbon, really i think its the adhesive in the carbon
I would not glue the next ones in (not that this helps in the current situation). I've found the nocks fit very tightly without glue, but I can turn them if I want to try a different fletch orientation.
I like the boiling water idea to weaken whatever glue you did use. You may be stuck with them, though. Twist too hard and you will weaken the bond between the strands of carbon.
I do not glue in the nocks. If they were that loose I would say they were not not ones for that brand shaft. The drill method is way I would do it also. Did you use super glue to fletch shafts? If you did I would bet you used same glue to attach nocks. The trick is holding the shaft straight up and down so the bit does not wander through side wall of shaft.
I have had nock's,on my older set's of arrows move to freely from time to time.A quick fix for me,is to trim off a sliver of vinyl wrap,and affix to the neck of the nock.You have to watch how much you use,or you will wind up splitting the shaft,when you seat the nock. Just a small piece will work!
As has been posted, carbon shaft nocks don't need glue. To save yourself more trouble down the road, when you reorder more nocks to replace the ones you're likely going to mess up removing with pliars, go ahead get one of the little plastic nock removal tools. It basically just a slotted tool that goes down in the nock groove, but they work good in orienting with fletching or backing out enough to remove them with fingers.
thanks for the info so far......in 20/20 hind sight, trust me i will glue the nocks in again......that said....i googled "nock removal from carbon arrows".....and came upon a you tube video in which the guy inserts a 1/8" diameter steel rod from the tip end and taps it with a hammer and the nock comes out......
before i drill them out, boil them in water of mame them with pliers, i going to my home depot and buy a 36" rod for $2.31....and give it a try......
will keep you posted on the results..
bob
I know some may disagree, but i would try a little heat on the nock.
NOT MUCH!! be sure that where ever you are heating is not just carbon, that the nock is under it. I used to use superglue on my inserts and would heat the shaft over the inserts and pull them right out.
that is assuming you did not use some type of cement glue..
If you must affix the nock in some way I would suggest that you put teflon tape over the hole in the shaft and push the nock in over it to enhance the fit. Bohning, Easton, and Beiter push in nocks are not meant to be glued in. The only push in nock designed to be glued in is a turno nock.
Try A drill bit that fits just a bit loose, placed into the point end and swing the arrow in an arc (safely). This makes the bit slam into the nock and should dislodge it.
ChuckC
If the inserts are out I would try the drill bit method of nocking out the nocks.I use that method to try to nock out inserts.I like to wad up a blanket to catch the drill bit,because it usally comes flying out.
Neon, I always glue my nocks in to prevent popping out on hard hits while stumping. I always just drill out the old ones with a bit smaller than the inside diameter of the shaft.
You can also drill it out first with an 1/8" drill, insert a drywall screw, and try and pull it out.
The inside of carbons are so slick that when drilling out old nocks, a lot of times the drill bit will dig into the nock and spin it loose.
Break the nock with pliers and screw in a sheet rock screw. For me it takes them right out.
QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Try A drill bit that fits just a bit loose, placed into the point end and swing the arrow in an arc (safely). This makes the bit slam into the nock and should dislodge it.
ChuckC
2x
The drill bit works like a slide-hammer. Works GREAT for glued inserts too. Just be careful when everything comes free.
I'm happy to report the nocks are out......finally broke the nock and then drilled it out.......happy camper
Bob
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QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Try A drill bit that fits just a bit loose, placed into the point end and swing the arrow in an arc (safely). This makes the bit slam into the nock and should dislodge it.
ChuckC
2x
The drill bit works like a slide-hammer. Works GREAT for glued inserts too. Just be careful when everything comes free. [/b]
I've used this method to remove inserts it doesn't work so well if you use gorilla super glue luckily only 2 inserts were super glued so I only destroyed two arrows and not the whole dozen
I don't super glue inserts anymore... Ha lesson learned
Im glad you got them out. I never glued any of my nocks. If I had a nock come while shooting it was do to the nock being to tight.
The drill bit method works like a charm....I have 24 arrows that came with my bow and none of them weighted the way I want them. 18 or so of them amazingly have eclipse broadheads ....brand new unused...on them. Most of the broadheads I was able to remove by hand but four I couldn't get to break loose...he use just a bit of glue on them. I decided to try the drill bit method and the impact broke loose the glue and I was able to screw the broadheads out. Then I went ahead and used the drill bit method to tap out the inserts. Now I'm ready to cut and install points once I finish bare shaft tuning.
As KSDan and ChuckC said running a drywall screw in works great.
My GT nocks are glued in with Gorilla Glue (the clear cyanocrylate).
I just run the screw in, gently heat the screw with a lighter, and then let everything cool down.
Another 1/8 turn of the screw and the nock comes out. Been doing it for years and have never had a problem. I have a few arows that have had 7 or 8 nocks replaced each.
I'm glad that the nocks came out for you... I have thought about trying blue Loctite on nocks but I never actually tried it. I use the blue Loctite on all of my gun smithing work due to the fact that it holds very well but breaks loose easily with just a little force.