I have seen so much on this and it seems it has helped a lot of 3 under shooters. If you have had experience with this please tell. good, bad or indifferent.
I started using 2 nock points when I started shooting 3-under. I switched back to split, but still use 2 nock points as I think it keeps me from pinching the arrow nock between my fingers.
It doesn't hurt a thing.. Works great for three under.
I shoot 3 under and it made a world of difference in my tuning. Wouldn't catch me without it.
I shoot three under and have had issues with the lower knock hitting the tip of my long nose. I have a scab right now from it. I do have a high anchor though.
Chris
this maybe stupid, but do you still slightly touch the arrow nock with a finger even when two nocks??
A double nock point gives a great deal of forgiveness as the arrow is loosed whether you shoot split or 3 under. Why wouldn't any archer want his nock position to be surely consistent until it leaves the string?
I believe you do still touch the arrow with two nocks. But maybe not as much pressure is applied to hold the arrow in place, I shoot with two nocks and use split finger.
thinking about just tying one under with floss to see what it does at some point, but I like the idea. Will floss work?
Yes floss will work or you can take an 1/8" strip of masking tape and wrap in in place. It's a whole lot easier to remove if you don't like it.
Once I have my bow tuned I use 2 tied on nocks of D97. It'll last forever.
I shoot three under and use a brass nock on top and dental floss on the bottom. I was having problems with my arrows hitting nock way high no matter where I moved my nock low or high and someone on here recommended I tie on a lower nock on and that did the trick. 2 nocks keep the arrow from moving down the string once you release.
bigbadjon has it right. The second nock is under there for after the string leaves your fingers. I have had arrows slide down the string after release creating terrible unfixable results in arrow flight.
I will never shoot without two tied on nocks. Matters not if shooting 3 under or split.
Floss will work just fine. I have started using strands of old bowstrings I had laying around, and I like that for tie on nocks a good deal. It seems a little more durable than serving string. Just my opinion.
Jake
Not One Bit. Cant advise it myself. Just my $.02
I use two nock points...i tie mine with braided fishing line.works great
I use two brass nocks and shoot 3 under. It really helped with my release and tuning.
Two nocking points for me,been using two tie-on nocking point for around 20 years.Just have always done it that way and I shoot split.
QuoteOriginally posted by KentuckyTJ:
bigbadjon has it right. The second nock is under there for after the string leaves your fingers. I have had arrows slide down the string after release creating terrible unfixable results in arrow flight.
I will never shoot without two tied on nocks. Matters not if shooting 3 under or split.
agreed times 3
Allen at Ten Ring Strings puts double tie on nock points on the string if you request it. Great service.
I use 2 nock points to keep the arrow from sliding down the string.
shakes what negatives did you see from it?
I shoot three under, and use two nock points.
Does it help? I don't really know, but it doesn't hurt, so why not.
so i hear that 1/16th space is what you want. so if nock the arrow flush to one nock, there should be 1/16 between the bottom of the nock and the second nock point?
I shoot split and 2 nocking points made me more consistent ( tie on nocks , nail Knot)here's how to :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YlYqDiJN8U
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Yes!
There is a slow motion video somewhere showing how a nock slides down the string after release if you don't have two nock points. If you ever see it, you will never shoot with just one nock point again.
It will make tuning easier, and you will be more consistent.
I've used 2 nocks since I started shooting traditional. I don't have to worry about whether I'm nocking above or below in low light, and I use the bottom nock to locate my index finger on the string.
I wouldn't consider shooting without two nock locators. The distance between the locators is a tiny bit larger than the arrow nock to prevent nock pinch.
I'm a string walker as well so except at 32 yards my top finger never touches the arrow nock once I've set my draw hand.
I use bowstring material to make mine. I have a big spool that unless lost, it will last longer than I do.
I shoot 3 under.Always have always will. Never put 2 nocks on my strings. Loose nocks is going to give you poor flight and noise upon release. I like a few others here build up my string with Dental Floss.strat below the nock about an inch or so. Up once and down tie off. Tight enough to hold your arrow on the string when I hang my bow on a hook in the tree.
If I could figure how to post a pic I will show my first attempt at it... I have not shot yet, I'm resting myself
I shoot split, so I do not use two nock sets. I have a good friend, who is a very good shooter, like top ten in the state of Tx. This guy does not know squat about tuning. He asked me for some help on a recurve he had. We messed with it and just could not get good arrow flight, no matter what adjustments we made. As a kind of last resort, I noticed he only had one nock set, and told him, "Let's try a second nock set". The next shot was perfect and so were subsequent shots. I am a true believer now, that if you shoot 3-under, you should always have 2 nock sets on your string.
Bisch
Here's my take on double nocking points.
http://rysanpei.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-cool-part-about-hunting-equipment.html
Thanks Ryan. I always enjoy your stuff.
QuoteOriginally posted by kat:
I shoot three under, and use two nock points.
Does it help? I don't really know, but it doesn't hurt, so why not.
What Ken Says! X2 :thumbsup:
I'm a 3 under guy, and I noticed some issues with arrow flight when I was using one nocking point. It wasn't as bad with a newer string, but as the serving wore down the arrow flight got worse. A second nocking point fixed the problem. I wouldn't shoot without two nocking points now.
Very good videos Ryan. Good quality and very informative. I enjoy them a lot.
I use two nochs tied on with b-50 it for no other reason to let you know it one moves
2 for three under. Optional if split. I shoot split and seem to do just fine either way. I tend toward 1 on most of my bows shooting split.
As a tree under shooter, double tied on nocks work the best for me. No comparison to a single nock.
I use to shoot with 1 nock set, until i seen the slowmo video... 2 nock sets ever since and have been having much better arrow flight.
so are you guys just having a small amount of wiggle room between the nocks?
If you swing by this weekend, let me check your nock fit too.
I also shoot split and always use two tie on nock points.
You want a little wiggle room between the nock sets so at full draw they are not pinching the nock. I was also thinking that the guys who don't advovate the dual nock set have a friction fit to there nocks because they are scared of the nock falling off the string, but that is only necassary for self nocks. On a snap on nock the snap should occur right when the arrow is put on the string and then there should be zero bite on the serving in the throat. That is it should slide freely up and down the string without the nock points to stop it. This allows the string to rotate and forgives some torque. I am a firm believer that the difference in marginal archers and good ones is not all skill, the good ones have just figured out tricks to mitigate their errors.
Doc, I hope to get out there Sunday afternoon, after the sale of the wheel bow!
I don't think it makes a difference at all if your nocks fit perfectly. But if they are a bit on the loose side shooting 3 under it's definitely a good way to go.... But....the spacing is critical so the arrow nock doesn't bind up between the two nocks at full draw.
it looks like I got about 1/16th gap
I was walking across my alfalfa field and found a loose piece of bailing twine - the newer orange stuff. Don't know what it is but if you separate a strand out it makes a great long lasting tie on nock. Not too bulky. It feels like poly or some kind of plastic.