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Title: Bareshaft tuning sheet
Post by: Trond on January 22, 2015, 04:17:00 AM
I would like to get some opinions on something I made in Excel today. Feel free to use it, by the way.
First time I try to share a link from my DropBox, but here it goes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fqloscje1jnnwl1/Bareshaft-tuning.xlsx?dl=0
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Post by: Stump73 on January 22, 2015, 07:12:00 AM
Thats great. Will be an easy Reference for some sttarting to learn to bareshaft.
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Post by: sveltri on January 22, 2015, 07:56:00 AM
Great idea, this is gonna be helpful.  Thanks.
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Post by: FerretWYO on January 22, 2015, 08:32:00 AM
Looks very helpful to new guys for sure. Maybe make one for lefties too.
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Post by: Bladepeek on January 22, 2015, 10:14:00 AM
I understand the principles of bareshaft planing without the hints, but I think this sheet would definitely help beginners to bareshafting keep track of things.

I also think it would be an excellent target (if printed large enough). I find a single spot is much easier for me to concentrate on and gives much more consistent results than "multi-spot" targets.

I know, "pick a spot", but if I am really trying to be ultra consistent and focus on my form while bareshafting, a nice, clear aiming point seems to work wonders for my grouping.

Nice idea.
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Post by: NoCams on January 22, 2015, 11:06:00 AM
I am with you Bladepeek....the less to look at the better for my wandering mind ! I am a Lefty and should be able to just read this in reverse as far as spine goes, nock info will not change LH or RH. Many thanks for sharing Trond !!!
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Post by: Archer Dave on January 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Cool thanks for the sheet.

I had difficulties getting it to print out right so I made it into a pdf to fill the 8.5"x11" sheet of paper. I can email it to you to put on your dropbox if you like.

Thanks
Dave
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Post by: Archer Dave on January 22, 2015, 11:33:00 AM
Also as a beginner to bareshaft tuning, this target would be used in conjunction with fletched arrows right? Shoot the dot with the fletched and then shoot the bareshafts and see where the land on the target? Is this correct?
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Post by: AkDan on January 22, 2015, 11:44:00 AM
I would use this as your reference and shoot a blank piece of paper Dave!  Its easier (and cheaper) to take a junk piece of paper.  The 'dot' if you will is your entrance hole.  You read the tear.
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Post by: Bladepeek on January 22, 2015, 12:22:00 PM
Dan, that's if you are paper tuning. I'm much less concerned with the tear, than I am with where the bareshaft strikes with respect to a fletched shaft. If I (left handed shooter) see the bareshaft striking to the right of my fletched arrow, I'm stiff. If it lands to the left of fletched arrow, I'm too weak. I will "rough it in" at the 7 yds or so I can get in my shop and then go to the field or range and do it at 20 - 25 yds. I've never had a broadhead fly badly once I get bareshaft and fletched landing together with field points.

Bareshaft planing and paper tuning both work, obviously, as long as you are comfortable with your tuning method.
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Post by: AkDan on January 22, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
They all work, that's the joy of it...but I think shooting at this paper itself wouldn't be the best move.  (as it sounded to me anyways)  

As for comparing bareshafts to fletched that is a completely different game...sorry I missed the original question of comparing the two.... I read Daves post faster than my mind comprehended it which is about a snails pace LOL!
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Post by: sheepdogreno on January 22, 2015, 04:14:00 PM
Saved! Thanks for sharing I'm fairly new to bareshafting and it can be a little confusing
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Post by: mooshkat on January 22, 2015, 05:59:00 PM
I tried everything i know, can only get half of it to print, this would be handy to have.
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Post by: katman on January 22, 2015, 06:24:00 PM
Very nice job there, should prove helpful for the visual learner starting to bareshaft.
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Post by: Trond on January 23, 2015, 05:02:00 AM
Sorry, I didn't think when I posted just the excel-version of the sheet. Here is a link to a PDF-version.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/37243932/Bareshaft-tuning.pdf
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Post by: mooshkat on January 23, 2015, 09:50:00 AM
Thanks, that printed out just fine, thankyou for posting this, great idea.
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Post by: jmar595 on January 23, 2015, 02:17:00 PM
Is this for LH shooters?
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Post by: Trond on January 23, 2015, 03:04:00 PM
No, this is for RH-shooters, but if you swap left and right sides it can be used by LH-shooters too.
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Post by: jmar595 on January 23, 2015, 03:05:00 PM
Wouldn't the arrow be high if the nick kicks to the right side?
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Post by: Trond on January 23, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
Stiff arrows hits left of the mark for a RH-shooter. Opposite for LH-shooters.
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Post by: Matt Green on January 25, 2015, 08:41:00 PM
Good sheet - I finally had a chance to open and take a look.  I also created a spreadsheet that would go well with your sheet - suggests what can be done to correct the problems your grid identifies.  Trad bowhunter magazine published it on their electronic version.  if you subscribe you can get to the link below.  I didn't know it til I went to the site but its on the most popular downloads.
best to all
mg

http://www.tradbow.com/public/programs/opendownloads.cfm
Title: Re: Bareshaft tuning sheet
Post by: ChuckC on January 26, 2015, 09:33:00 AM
Thanks for sharing your info.  

A point to remember is when you walk up to the target, if it is not at your level, the arrow will exhibit the angle of entry from the angle of shot.  

In other words, when I am aiming down at my target, which is a foot off the floor (seven yards away), and I am 6'1" tall, the arrow has a built in nock high entry that may have nothing at all to do with nocking point.
ChuckC
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Post by: fujimo on January 26, 2015, 11:46:00 AM
awesome- thanks
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Post by: Buckeeboy on January 26, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
Is seven yrds the norm for doing this. I want to try bare shafting just for reference.
Thanks
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Post by: ChuckC on January 26, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
no norm, just the amount of room I have in my basement.  The angle thing is real enough at 20 as well, but less so.
ChuckC