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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Walt Francis on October 02, 2007, 07:37:00 PM
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Is it history? Would you try saving this bow? Is it possible? Here are a few pictures of a bow that was strung backwards, what are your thoughts?
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/DougsSheepHunt001.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/DougsSheepHunt005.jpg)
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Looks like fire wood to me!
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Eeyup, thats firewood right there, sorry!
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Oooouch! it sure don't look good. i'm with Joe on this one.
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Who in the #*&%&% strung it backwards?
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You're not supposed to hit him that hard over the head with it! ;) :banghead: :jumper:
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i think your "sig" will come in handy for this one bro. looks like kindlin,,,was it strung and "drawn" backwards?
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Wait till Eric Krewson (Sp?) chimes in I know he's saved a bunch. Sinew is what he uses but that may be beyond fixing. Hang it up or cut the other limb off to make a takedown with.
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Oh Man, I dont know if Dr. Krewson can save that one or not. Let Him "Do that VooDoo That He Do So Well" before ya trash or Burn it!!
Paging Dr. Krewson,STAT!!
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Those kinda bows are always a good conversation piece hangin on the wall. They make good kindling too. :bigsmyl:
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What does the other limb look like?
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I fixed this one but yours is much worse. I wouldn't even attempt a fix on your bow unless I cut the bad limb off and replaced it with a new limb.
Before,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/frankenbowboom.jpg)
After a bunch of urac and new bamboo,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/frankenbowgluedcrack.jpg)
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Sorry for your misfortune but look at the bright side; now you get to go shopping!!
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The unanimous agreement is the same as mine when first seeing the bow. I told the owner it was beyond repair but they wanted me to try and fix it anyway. Here are some pictures of the final fix; I didn’t think it would work, so I didn’t take any pictures during the process. In the first step I used Urac 185 to glue it using rubber bands to hold it together during the curing process. In the second step Urac 185 was mixed with fine Osage dust to fill the areas missing chunks of wood, then filed and sanded to the original shape. Next, the entire area (about six inches) was wrapped with bison sinew and coated with two coats of Zap-a-Gap. So far I have put around two hundred arrows through it and it appears the fix will hold, but only time will tell.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/DougsSheepHunt031.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/DougsSheepHunt032.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/DougsSheepHunt034.jpg)
One amazing/surprising thing was the bow came back to a good tiller without touching the other limb. It wasn’t perfect, but good enough that I wasn’t going to mess with it anymore.
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Well, I'll be darned! :notworthy:
Walt, you are the man! I'd have given that one up for dead.
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how about some pics at full draw and just stung?
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Who woulda thunk that bow could have been saved. I too had written it off as lost. You da man!
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Not I. I would have thought it was lost to the bow world forever. It would have made one heck of a short sword for some lucky kid. See what you did Walt, you took a good present away from some kid.
You done good! Much better than me.
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I figured you had something up your sleeve when I saw this post. Don't bet against this man on a bow for sure.
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Well I'm going to say it.Looks like you did a great job fixin' it. But like a racehorse, I think the owner shoulda' shot it and put it outta its misry.Circle of life and all. IMO.
Brian
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tick...tick...tick...
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Well two shots is more then I thought. 200 is just amazing. Only problem is that I'd be ducking on every shot. Good job.
But I'm afraid it's only a matter of time.
Mike
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Just goes ta show ya, that it ain't over till the big lady gets up ta sing. Nice job Walt.
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Walt,
How much weight did the bow loose after the fix??
Just curious.
Sean
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Still wanna see some full draw post sinew pics.....call me skeptical.
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THAT LOOKS GREAT.OH MY GOSH I THINK ITS KINDLING FOR YOUR NEXT HUNTING TRIP.IT COULD PROBABLY BE CUT UP AND TURNED ON A LATHE FOR WOOD PENS.
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Alright, I will try to answer everybody’s questions; hopefully, the pictures will answer most of them.
Sean,
First I have no idea if the bow lost weight after the repair; I am not the original builder of the bow. If anything the lower limb (the broken one) might have gained a little weight as the tiller is about 5/16th of an inch stiffer then the upper limb. At full draw the upper limb definitely bends more then the lower limb, which is the main reason I didn’t try re-tillering the bow.
Brian and Christopher,
Here are pictures of the bow just strung and at full draw. The bow is a youth’s bow, pulling 43#’s @ 26”. The cane arrow in the picture is 29 ½” from back of broadhead to the throat of the nock.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/DougsSheepHunt035.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/DougsSheepHunt043.jpg)
Bob,
I was thinking the same thing until I got through the first hundred shots, now my gut tells me it is going to stay together.
Mike,
I think the first three shots I made with the bow after the repair missed the target completely from eight yards because of my flinching. The more I shot it though the better it feels. If it was my bow I would take to one of my whitetails stands and use it on a doe just to prove to myself it was really still a bow.
For those who are still doubtful, here is video link of me shooting the bow this morning.
The arrow is a 430 grain cane shaft (total weight) with self nock, turkey fletching, tipped with a 145 grain Eclipse broadhead.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/th_DougsSheepHunt044.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/?action=view¤t=DougsSheepHunt044.flv)
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Awsome work Walt :thumbsup: :clapper:
Take care,
Rusty
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Nice work Walt :eek: , I hope it holds for for the youngin.
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Amazing almost makes ya believe in magick(ye olde spelling)
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:notworthy: :notworthy: :pray:
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Nice work!!
Hatchet Jack
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Simply amazing...and to think of all the bows that hand grenaded on the tiller tree on me that I could have sent to Walt for repair :biglaugh:
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Mick,
I don't think I did anything you or most others would have done regarding the repair. The main thing is somebody convinced me to attempt it. It amazed me what bamboo and sinew are capable of holding together. If the bow hadn't of been backed with Boo I wouldn't have tried the repair.
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Very nice Walt! Way to go.
:notworthy: :notworthy:
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You da man. Sorry I doubted you.
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Awesome job saving that one from the fire! :thumbsup:
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Holy Cow! :scared:
Now I realize that all those broken bows on my wall are actually salvage waiting to be repaired and shot :saywhat: Hurts just thinking about it! Nice save BTW. CK
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I Agree, GREAT JOB!! But what the Heck is Zap-A- Gap?? :confused:
Never Heered of such a Critter, and it might just be Something I should Hold in Reserve when I start Makin' Shavin's!! :goldtooth: Never hurts to have a Plan to Fall Back on. :biglaugh:
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Bill,
Zap-A-Gap is basically thick superglue and is good for filling cracks and knot holes. You can get it a most hobby stores. Jim Remph (sp) of Missoula, and one of the best bowyers I have met, introduced me to the product about ten years back.
Mickey,
After thinking about your last post this morning, I do not believe this repair would work very well for bows that hadn’t made through the tillering stage, you wouldn’t be able to tiller the repaired area.