Hey guys,
Might be going on my first hog hunt ever in a few months.
Right now I shoot Easton stalker extremes 45/60's at full length with 125 grain points, they weigh in at 400 grains. I would like to bump up the weight a little bit for hog but dont want to change point weight or tune if possible.
have you guys used weight tubes? thoughts?
I shoot a Hoyt Dorado, about 47@28.25
I shoot them with Trad Only carbons from 3 Rivers. A 125 grain BH with 100 grain insert and tube gives me a 29" arrow that weighs right around 650 grains.
You could use 3/16 poly rope cut it about 10" longer than your shaft. Stuff it in there. Doesnt rattle and has no efffect on spine. I went from 443gr to 596gr.I dont do it now because I use higher foc. Some people use weedeater string.
I think the poly rope/ paracord idea is the best. I have experimented with weight tubes, coated steel cable, and weed whacker line; the cable and whacker line is too noisy period and it can make your nocks pop out if they are not glued in. The weight tubes work better, and are quite adequate if you install them correctly and pinch them in enough locations that they stay put, though I still have gotten some rattle with them too in certain situations. Poly rope or paracord on the other hand, if stuffed into the arrow will stay put with no issues and zero noise. Its a good idea to invest in a grain scale in order to be precise about it. Good luck. All I can say is that when it comes to pigs, 10+ gpp and a little extra FOC are your friend.
http://www.tbwpodcast.com/
Check out this guys page, he shows how to add poly rope to add weight and it's easily reversible. But adding weight to the shaft with that little of tip weight that your shooting will greatly reduce your FOC. I tried it on some arrows that only had 125 gr heads and aluminum insert and the calculated FOC was nearly zero, it got the weight up like I wanted but the arrows flew horribly!
I have shot plenty hogs with a very similar setup. I choose to shoot the younger hogs, I always get a pass through. I don't shoot the big boys with anything, although I have been known to catch the big boys from time to time. The big boys get cut and fed out before they make to my freezer.
Do you think it might be better to just get a 100 grain insert and cut a little bit off the arrow?
Yes I tryed both the sistems and by far high FOC works much better. :thumbsup:
Might work to use insert and shorten! Only one way to find out!
If it makes you feel better. I have never found weight tubes to offer any penetration advantage or flight improvement in the real world.
100 grain brass adapters, or inserts for screw on heads, and the paracord trick works great @10" longer than arrow works OK.
I probably wouldn't hunt rabbits with the setup you have now. With your low draw weight, I would say you need at least 250-300 grains in front and probably 550-650 gr total.
You can get brass inserts in 50 or 100 grains to give you more options. If you are accurate with your set up, you'll be fine on most pigs. Good arrow flight into the right spot with a sharp head trumps all else.
Meat pigs, say 40-100 pounds are the best eating and soft sided. Sows a little bigger should be fine too. The sides on a big boar, however, are TOUGH.
imho you are shooting plenty of poundage and with a longer draw than most. I would add a 100 grain brass insert to the arrow and either shorten the shaft a bit or bait out the riser a touch to help the weaker spine. You may be surprised at how little it changes anyway. I shoot a pound or two less at 27" and have never lost a pig because of lack of penetration. Shooting straight helps most.RC
I would listen to RC on this.
Definitely point weight over the poly... rope can also affect the dynamic spine of the shaft and create weird flight issues... as sharp as possible on the broadheads and you will bring home bacon.