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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: foxbo on December 25, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
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It seems every year there is yet another "wonder" hunting chair which I just have to have. To date I own a Nifty Seat, Rackpack, Hammock Seat, Double Bull Blind Chair, one crafted by "Squirrelbait", a Cross River Pocket Seat, a Millennium G300 and now the Millennium G100.
I've killed deer while using all of them, with exception of the Cross River seat. I have not used it enough to make it productive.
I turned 60 this year and have my share of health problems, not the least to mention a herniated disc at L5. So, my quest is to obtain a hunting chair which is easy to transport, fast to setup, not to heavy, and most of all, COMFORTABLE!
I first bought the G300 early this Fall and enjoyed sitting in that chair. It is super light weight and easy to transport, but it did not swivel and you need a tree for attachment. Still, it is a great chair and I highly recommend it.
I loved the G300 so much that I just had to have the G100 with it's swivel seat, adjustable legs, fast setup. The comfort level is the same with both chairs.
The G100 comes equipped with one padded carrying strap which will get the job done. I decided to come up with a way to attach backpacking straps for even easier transport. I ordered a military molle frame equipped with the padded shoulder harness and hip belt off of "fleabay" for around 34 bucks to include shipping. I attached the flexible frame to the G100 with four zip ties. The pics to follow basically explain how I managed to make this system work. The frame being flexible, allowed me to pull the frame into the chair at the top mounts, which maintains the attachment rock steady.
I had a few guys wanting to know how I attached everything and so I promised to provide some pics. I'll start with how the seat looks all packed up for transport.
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In this pic you can see the bottom of the molle frame protruding from the bottom of the seat. I'm not finished yet with this system. I'm going to find a small pack which I can attach and detach from the back which is actually the underside of the actual seat. The pipe insulation you see, I attached to the cross member to make it easier on my legs when sitting. I don't really think it is necessary. A small pack could easily be attached to that cross member. The zippered pouch contains the leg assembly of the chair.
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This pic shows me unzipping the pouch which contains the lower assembly of the chair. You'll also notice the zip ties in the above pic showing the frame being attached to the chair.
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Out comes the lower assembly...
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It is simple to attach the legs to the chair bottom. There is a detent pin which you push in and then the shaft just slides into the lower portion of the chair.
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Once the shaft is completely inserted into the bottom part of the chair, you can open the three legs and leave them set at the lowest setting, or at whatever level you want. I usually keep one of the three legs pointing forward and adjust that forward leg to be extended one to two setting taller to give the seat a reclined position. This is not necessary, but does add to comfort, depending on the ground and terrain.
In this pic, you'll notice a quick release nylon buckle which I attached to the chair to hold it together during transport. I think I bought the buckles and nylon strapping at walmart. Anyway, you have to unsnap the buckle in order to open up the chair.
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Here's the chair unfolded with the leg assembly attached and ready for hunting.
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Another pic of the chair fully assembled.
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This pic shows how I attached the zip ties to the top portion of the molle frame.
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These two pics show how I attached the zip ties to the lower portion of the frame.
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A close up showing the zip ties on either side of the frame at the top portion.
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This seat is advertised to weigh in at seven pounds, or so. The molle frame assembly probably weighs close to four pounds. I weighed the entire package on a set of meat scales and was surprised to see it come in at 13 pounds. That sounds heavy, but I can say without a doubt that this is the easiest carrying system I've ever used. It surely doesn't feel that heavy and if it felt heavy, I wouldn't use it. It's actually a joy to carry and setup time is probably less than 15 seconds.
I used it this November when most of the leaves were dropped. I found that all of the smaller beech trees still retained their golden yellow leaves. I setup in beech trees and had deer walk all over me. It was so cool being able to swivel in any direction I wanted. I was completely comfortable and actually enjoyed the time I spent in the woods. Of all the hunting chairs I own, this is without a doubt the best one thus far. Good luck...Ed.
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That's a really slick looking set up Ed... I've heard nothing but the word "comfortable" from any of the Millenium products...
Great ingenuity on the frame... I use the Molle straps and belt on my Lone Wolf's... Unreal what a difference that waist belt makes...
Hope you and your family had a great Christmas Day!
Jonathan
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I have one too, and I really like it! It is the best pop-up blind chair that I have used.
I really like the backpack setup that you added.
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Thanks for the well wishes Jonathan. The same back at ya.
That military molle frame with padded shoulder pads and waist belt is extremely comfortable! It is well worth the cost.
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That's my next seat!
Love their tree seat!
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This looks cool. Thanks for posting! My wife and I each used ours today. Carrying with a large hunting daypack and also a back quiver is tough. That is my biggest issue. I just take too much stuff in the woods but I feel I need most of it to keep warm, fed and hydrated.
How big of a pack will you try to attach?
Did you experiment with attaching this to an existing pack? Why this route?
Lastly, I am surprised you feel the need for the pad underneath the front. These are so comfortable that I never even hit that.
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Thanks for the follow up foxbo. Great pics.
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Awesome post
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Most of my hunting is done out of my back door, but I do cover a couple of miles at times. I wanted the chair to be extremely comfortable to transport and my arms free. The molle frame does that well.
I'm thinking a small pack which I can attach and detach with quick release buckles. I don't think it would work with a pack hanging from the bottom of the chair while sitting. And you're correct, the piece of pipe insulation on the rail of the seat isn't needed. I'll take it off to attach the pack.
I went with the plastic molle frame as it fit the contour of the chair like it was made for it. I had an older metal alice frame which I used in the beginning. It was too narrow, but worked well enough for me to decide on the molle.
I don't know if you guys have used one of these military pack frames or not, but I can tell you that they're extremely comfortable and provide freedom of movement. And I believe there are two different sizes of the molle frame. The one I ordered is the larger one.
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Looks like I my have found my next chair
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Great idea using the pack. The seat looks comfortable but I'm concerned with the straps that come from the back of the seat to the bottom. Seems that they could be restrictive and not let you sit with your legs opened up. I'm 6'6" and 280lbs, has anyone with a larger frame used this chair? And you if so is it comfortable?
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http://millenniumstands.com/products/ground/g100-blind-chair
The website says it will handle up to 400 lbs.
The straps do not hinder leg movement. When I'm using the chair, I don't even notice the straps.
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Gosh darn it, another chair, have several, one of similar cost but the legs can be a hassle, might have to invest in a millennun in 2015, sell off the other??? Thanks for posting your carry system!
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Yeah, I contemplated the Huntmore but the assembly is a bit more complicated. Can't beat the quick set-up or comfort with G-100.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WQwG-UwYTA
This is a U Tube video which shows you how to attach the shoulder pads and waist belt to the molle frame.
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Looks like Millenium has done a nice job with their design, low center of gravity, solid, appears to be one that could be quiet during a draw. What impressed me the most was your carry system. Excellent job Millenium would probably like to see it. :eek:
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Thanks Howard. The carry system is just a molle frame and four zip ties. Of course, the frame and chair go together very well. I believe serious ground hunters will purchase this chair as soon as it catches on.
So far, I can't find anything I would change about the chair other than have the factory offer a backpacking system and easy on/off small pack as an option. Maybe even a circular folding blind equipped with stakes to surround the chair. There may be a blind already on the market for this purpose. I haven't looked. For now, I setup inside a deadfall, or have a thick bush for a backdrop for quick sets. I also have built brush blinds which work well.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I like to extend the forward leg to the chair at least one extra notch and sometimes two, depending on the ground/terrain. This gives the chair a reclined position. With the extra weight of the frame and straps, it can also make the chair want to tip backwards when you stand up. I solved this by using the same notch in all three legs or not extending the forward leg more than one notch. It takes no time to become acquainted with this condition and is an easy fix. It all depends on the slop of the terrain.
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I have been waiting for a decent review of this chair. I had one of their original hang on treestands and it was the most comfortable. Since then, i have made the transition to ground hunting only. I have been looking for that perfect (or as close to it) seat.
Foxbo, where did you purchase the Molle frame from. I dont know much about them, and there are many places to buy from. I am not sure where is the best place to start.
Thanks,
Jon
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Sent ya a PM.
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I like what you have done. Thanks for posting. Great for turkey's in the spring.
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Glad you found it interesting. It is a great piece of hunting gear.
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Just reread this thread and am happy to say that the G100 is still the best hunting chair I've used. I killed a nice fat six pointer with it this past fall. He never knew what happened and died about twenty yards in front of me. Also shot a nice spike from the chair with a .50 caliber flintlock and passed quite a few other deer which I did not need to shoot. A great hunting chair!
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Thanks for your review, and especially for the update! I really appreciate when folks do a great job with the original post, then follow through with an update. It's a great way to either confirm or deny the original assessment. Thank you!
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Looks like that is something I need to do. I will have to come up with some big feet for it, though. The land around here is sand all the way down to the water table. Put a chair leg on it and it sinks in fast.
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The chair has "duck feet" which do not sink into the ground. I'd be surprised if it did not work in pure sand.
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I've had one for the last year . It is by far the best hunting seat I've found and I have serversl . This past fall I left it in a popup and didn't transport it but this past weekend we went on our annual South Texas Hog hunt ,we move around a lot so we all load up e back of pickup and are put out at different spots. I noticed that the fabric on the back raps around the top bar and it was wareing some when I got back i put a pice of insulating foam for plumbing and zipped in place. That should work also I've got a frame like yours that going on to. Thanks Ed
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I'm happy it was helpful for ya Bob!
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I have to say, I doubt when I order a blind chair, I would ever consider anything different!!!
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I bought one of all places at a local grocery store with a small hunting section. Got it for less than $170 including tax :eek:
Used now about 3 times so far and it is super comfortable, plan to do the Molle mod before next season. My only complaint is Millenium misrepresented the weight by about 2 pounds. On my scales it comes in at closer to 9.5 # than the 7.5# they claim.
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That's a good deal. I believe the chair is a tad bit heavier than advertised too, but it carries pretty easily with the molle system. Leaves your hands free to shoot too.
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It is extremely comfortable. I also have a huntmore and it's heavier, more difficult to set up, and not as comfortable. I used the Millenium 100 for a 5 day antelope hunt last summer, sitting 14 hours a day in a blind. Nothing else would have been so comfortable. However, mine developed a wobble in the fit of the swiveling pin and socket and the wobble is annoying. I am not small but it should hold up with my 220#. It still spins quietly nearly all the time, but very occasionally will make a soft "click" when I shift my weight. I have not figured a good way to fix this.
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I'm hunting with mine as we speak. Started my sit at 0810 and it's now 1220. So 4 hours and still comfortable enough to last longer.
As for your wobble issue, have you contacted Millenium?
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I have one and love it! I'm going to mount it onto a frame like foxbo showed.
I hunt in areas that have lots of swampy wetlands and if you are having problems sinking in, just cut three circles of plastic from some 5 gallon pails and put them under the feet.
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One of these is on my list.
An all day chair for sure.
Irv
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The season has started for some and for others like myself, have to wait until the first of October. I'm still loving my chair and have had no issues with noise or failures. If a better chair comes onto the market, I will purchase it, but for now, this is the best I've tried.
Everyone have a safe and productive fall.
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Ed,
I just finished setting mine up just like your after reading about it last year.
I found a great deal on the chair for $175 in of all places a local supermarket!
But I procrastinated on getting the Molle frame and pack straps till last week.
It took me several hours to figure out how to put that contraption together :knothead:
And it does add additional weight, but it carry so nice now :gold tooth:
Thanks for the great how to on this chair!
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John,
If you experience a problem with the chair tipping backwards when you stand up, just get in the habit of tilting the back of the chair forward a bit and that will solve the problem.
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It's getting that time of year again when guys are searching for a new "best" hunting chair. So far, this is the best one I've found and the most comfortable. There is also a model which attaches to a tree and it is super light weight and you will fall asleep in it. :) Good luck this season and be safe.
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I went with some tree stand pack straps with sternum strap for my chair set up, just works better for me, hunting pack goes on and chair rides over the pack. Best Hunting Chair out there!
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I love my Millenium Chair, solid smooth and comfortable.... Everyone wants to sit in it on camping get togethers!
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On the last day of my Nebraska turkey hunt this spring, I spent 14 1/2 hours in a blind in my millennium chair. I couldn't have done it otherwise. And shot a bird with one minute left in my hunt. I love my chair. My buddy has a hunt more and there is no comparison. Jim
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I really like the G100 for my turkey blind. I think you're right on the weight. They're heavier than advertised, but very easy to set up and very stable and quiet.
When I'm running and gunning, so to speak, I use the Hammock seat. Actually, I use it out west when I'm out all day and don't want to be carrying something heavy. I sometimes set up near a water hole/wallow for my mid-day siesta.
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I probably use my hammock seat as much as any chair I won cause it's so light weight. I sewed a nylon strap with quick disconnect buckle to my seat's bag so I can wear it on my hip. It carries so much better that way.