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Title: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Stixbowdrew on December 15, 2014, 10:07:00 AM
Hey guys, I've been thinking about doing this sometime in the near future, and was curious if anyone has done this I'd like some information and need some help from a traditional bowhunters perspective. Thanks!

Drew
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: adamgti on December 15, 2014, 11:41:00 AM
I hunted Caribou 3 years go in the Yukon and will be back there again next fall. It is a total blast and favors the traditional bowhunter.

Once you get about the willows and into the sub-alpine and higher the fun really starts. Glass the hell out of all the snow patches as the caribou will with out a doubt be occupying them.

Weather where I hunted was all over the place. from 20 C to -10 C. I would always keep your rain gear on you as the snow will likely be wet or worse straight rain.

Get in good shape. we put down some seriously crazy miles each day. My brother in law and I were in extremely good shape and still felt like we needed more.

the mountains aren't steep or rugged where I hunted but you can see for a 100 miles in any direction which draws you into a lets go for it mentality, hence the high miles.

Enjoy man and take lots of pictures.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: GREASEMAN on December 15, 2014, 11:59:00 AM
If you are thinking about Sheep hunting I can't stress enough to do it while you are young.
Getting in shape is one thing, but, getting in Sheep Shape is another. There is an article on Stickbow which will help you get in sheep shape, as sheep hunting requires a lot of miles and a lot of climbing. You will remember the hunt the rest of your life! No Misery, No Memory!

Cheers,
Chuck
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Steve O on December 15, 2014, 12:13:00 PM
Drew,

I hunted with a rifle with Blackstone in 2002. My roommate in base camp was Rick Duggan. He has hunted there a lot and Jim Fink understands the needs of a traditional bowhunter. Joe Furlong has been there a few times as well. Send me a PM and I can probably give you a lot more detail about archery sheep and caribou.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: JohnV on December 15, 2014, 02:35:00 PM
A membership with the Foundation for North American Wild Sheep is a good start.  You will see the names of certain outfitters pop up more often than others and can read what some of the hunts were like.  It is very important to get good reports from hunters that have been in camp in the last 1-2 years. Camps with very high success rates are often an indication of quality and experience of guides.  Beware of any camp that has just experienced turnover of guides.  Not a good sign and you may end up with a guide that has little experience in the area you are hunting.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Steve O on December 15, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Yep, and due to a lawsuit over a term that was coined in the 1940s they are now known as The Wild Sheep Foundation.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Stixbowdrew on December 15, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
Can this hunt even be done DIY
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: wingnut on December 15, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
I don't believe you can hunt sheep without a guide as a non res.

Mike
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Stixbowdrew on December 15, 2014, 06:59:00 PM
I'm not specifically looking at sheep, it would e a nice option to do as a combo with caribou. If I had to hire a guide I would, but I prefer to keep things DIY or with a couple of buddies. Would really like to find a drop camp.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Matt Quick on December 15, 2014, 07:05:00 PM
No such thing as DIY or drop camps for sheep or mountain caribou in Canada. Keep in mind a sheep/mnt caribou hunt is in the $30,000 range.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Steve O on December 15, 2014, 07:27:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Stixbowdrew:
Can this hunt even be done DIY
Sadly NO. Only chance would be BG Caribou in Alaska.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: GREASEMAN on December 15, 2014, 07:58:00 PM
Can't be done DIY unless you are a resident of Alaska and not sure of Canada
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: GREASEMAN on December 15, 2014, 08:03:00 PM
I encourage membership in The Wild Sheep Foundation even if you will never Sheep Hunt, as your membership keeps Wild Sheep on the mountain. They are the symbol of all that is Wild
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Stixbowdrew on December 15, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
What a shame.... All because of money or People not sensible enough to stay alive when out on their own? Drives me nuts, I hate the thought of paying for a guide when I know I can do it solo
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Jim Wright on December 15, 2014, 10:50:00 PM
A non-resident has been required to have an outfitter to hunt big game in the Yukon & Northwest Territories for many decades. In Alaska that is and has been for many years a requirement for Sheep, Grizzly/Brown Bear and Mountain Goats for . An exception is made for non-residents hunting with close relatives who are Alaska residents.
 I have confidence that everyone replying here is competent enough to hunt on their own. That said, not everyone is and when non-residents bite off more than they can chew in very remote, difficult country they are not properly prepared for and they have to then be rescued, it falls upon locals to bail them out. It costs poorly funded local authorities money that they don't have, hence these regulations become law.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Tutanka on December 16, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jim Wright:
A non-resident has been required to have an outfitter to hunt big game in the Yukon & Northwest Territories for many decades. In Alaska that is and has been for many years a requirement for Sheep, Grizzly/Brown Bear and Mountain Goats for . An exception is made for non-residents hunting with close relatives who are Alaska residents.
 I have confidence that everyone replying here is competent enough to hunt on their own. That said, not everyone is and when non-residents bite off more than they can chew in very remote, difficult country they are not properly prepared for and they have to then be rescued, it falls upon locals to bail them out. It costs poorly funded local authorities money that they don't have, hence these regulations become law.
Good post Jim
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: JohnV on December 16, 2014, 04:00:00 PM
I would not encourage you to do a combo sheep/caribou hunt unless you have lots of money burning a hole in your wallet.  Concentrate on getting your sheep (the more expensive and more difficult of the two) and don't be distracted chasing after caribou.  If you do decide to try caribou as well see if the outfitter will let you take one as a bonus animal, payable only if you shoot one.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: killinstuff on December 16, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
Yes be ready to refinance your house to do this hunt (both sheep and boo) and hopefully you have a fair amount of equity built up to borrow off of.  But you can always make more money,
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Stixbowdrew on December 16, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
I'm just blown away, and (I understand the locals losing money thing) by the fact that a guy cannot pay an outfitter a discounted rate to drop a couple of guys off in an area and return 2 weeks later to pick them up. With technology and sat phones how is this not a feasible thing? I Will always believe that it's a money thing, state governments and outfitters have some deal worked out. Call me crazy.

This hunt isn't something I'm preparing to do next year or even the following, but chasing sheep and mountain caribou is something I have always dreamed of since watching Fred bears hunts and reading jack O Connor tales. Just really would love to do a hardcore adventure bowhunt DIY, there's just something about doing it alone that is special
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Bowwild on December 16, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
Been dreaming of sheep for more than 40 years. Very expensive. Now I apply in MT where one could draw without preference points.  I probably shouldn't even be in the draw. I don't know if I could get in sheep shape any more.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Daz on December 16, 2014, 05:49:00 PM
I hope that this is not seen as confrontational, because that is not the intent. But the simple fact is, these are resources that belong to the residents, to be allocated and used as directed by the residents for the residents.

If there is not an economic benefit to residents in allocating these resources to non-residents then they won't be allocated.

There was a period in the 50's and 60's where game management in BC/YT/NWT was poor and non-residents took considerable advantage of this.

We now know what we have, what it's value is, and we reserve the right to have it managed to the benefit of the residents.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Stixbowdrew on December 16, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
Daz, I totally get your point, but my question to that is... Why is there not a lottery in place? Guess my question is what benefits are there to the "residents" when it's the outfitters making astronomical amounts of money. I'm sure there is the trickle down effect, but what benefit monetarily do you see as a resident of BC
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: tracker12 on December 16, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
In my opinion not worth the debate since it is what it is.  I would plan a DIY Bou hunt in Alaska.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Daz on December 16, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
There is a lottery in place. For residents.
Be thankful that there are ANY opportunities for non-residents to hunt here at all, be they guided or not.
Title: Re: Yukon/ NWT sheep and caribou hunt
Post by: Jim Wright on December 16, 2014, 09:31:00 PM
Andrew, if you are intent on a do-it-yourself Sheep hunt think about the over the counter tag areas in Montana northeast of Yellowstone Park. I lived in Billings in 1973&74 and spent considerable time in and hunted Sheep in the area both years. I assure you it is extremely rough, high country, most of the Sheep Units are in the Absaroka/Beartooth Wilderness Area. The highest point in Montana is there and it is Public Land. PM me if you like, I know a fair bit about the area and still have the maps I believe.