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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Ruan Carvalho Bosque on December 14, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
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I don´t have a lot of money so i need something at maxs of 500 bucks i like longbows but i know that a recurve may be the best so, say your opinion.
I am thinking about a Falco Storm, but if you know something better by the price let me now!
P.S:Max draw of 55# at 28"
Sorry I forgot to say :"In your opinion"
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Check out JK Traditions Kanati Longbows. Very reasonably priced and great shooters. Jason in listed in the Sponsor list. Good hunting. Todd
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The one that fits your hand! :archer2:
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Originally posted by Birdbow:
Check out JK Traditions Kanati Longbows. Very reasonably priced and great shooters. Jason in listed in the Sponsor list. Good hunting. Todd
I forgot to mention I am from Brazil so I'm gonna need someone who´s ships to here...
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The Bow that feels the best, as well as, shoots the best for you and you only.
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Originally posted by GREASEMAN:
The Bow that feels the best, as well as, shoots the best for you and you only.
In the state I live i think I am the only one with a tradbow, so i need your opinions...
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And who says a recurve is best ??
Pretty broad statement.
I like and shoot longbows, real Hill style longbows !
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I've killed a bazillion hogs with my longbow. If you prefer longbows, that is what you should get. You can get just about any bow you want used with a $500 budget!
Bisch
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Originally posted by Bisch:
I've killed a bazillion hogs with my longbow. If you prefer longbows, that is what you should get. You can get just about any bow you want used with a $500 budget!
Bisch
And wich longbow it is?
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There are a bunch of really good bows out there, and it all comes down to personal preference! From reading above, it sounds like you don't have the opportunity to form a preference. My favorite is the Sarrels Blueridge. Others will recommend what they like, I'm sure!
Good luck with your quest for your new bow!
Bisch
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Right now there is a 53# Schafer Silvertip 64" takedown longbow listed in the classifieds for $675. Schafer Silvertip is considered one of the very best bows made. This is a slightly used bow, but is close enough to your budget that I thought I would bring it to your attention, because this is significantly less than you would pay for a new bow of this quality.
Anyone can ship to Brazil. They just need to go to UPS or whoever you want to use as a shipper and get a price. You will probably have to pay the excess over domestic US shipping. Are there any import duties you will have to pay?
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From where you live, a Samick Red Stag is a pretty good shooting recurve at a very reasonable price and with shipping would be under $500.00.
Personally, I am a recurve guy. I own three and just bought a zipper longbow but it is a short bow and has a recurve riser. With recurve limbs, it would shoot a little smoother and faster than with longbow limbs. I don't think anybody can deny that recurves shoot faster and draw smoother. In the end, it is up to the individual.
Don't worry guys. I'm prepared to get blasted.
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Originally posted by McDave:
Right now there is a 53# Schafer Silvertip 64" takedown longbow listed in the classifieds for $675. Schafer Silvertip is considered one of the very best bows made. This is a slightly used bow, but is close enough to your budget that I thought I would bring it to your attention, because this is significantly less than you would pay for a new bow of this quality.
Anyone can ship to Brazil. They just need to go to UPS or whoever you want to use as a shipper and get a price. You will probably have to pay the excess over domestic US shipping. Are there any import duties you will have to pay?
60% On the whole cost...
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Ruan
Please understand that it is impossible for anyone to truly only list one bow that fits you. There are many great bows being made, and yet they don't all fit everyone. It would be impossible for us to pick a bow for you, it's something you need to best answer for yourself by doing as much research and speaking with bowyers.
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Originally posted by LongStick64:
Ruan
Please understand that it is impossible for anyone to truly only list one bow that fits you. There are many great bows being made, and yet they don't all fit everyone. It would be impossible for us to pick a bow for you, it's something you need to best answer for yourself by doing as much research and speaking with bowyers.
Sorry if I was unclear, i want to know about bows for hunting hogs, at a max of 55#28" draw I am showing a bow which is small, fast,quietly,and is stable(I only know it by reviews so I am not shure).
I just put a price limit because I am a selfish person.
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Ruan...im shooting a wes wallace mentor 51@28 and while ive shot no hogs it is very fast, dead in the hand and one of the smoothest bows ive pulled. I would have no problem taking it hunting and I am in april in Texas. Wes makes an awesome bow and they are priced right.
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Really, there is no best bow to hunt hogs with. Anything more than 45-50# should work fine. Just depends on what you like to shoot the best.
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There are many bows that would fit the bill for hogs. The trick is find one that works well for you as well. International shipping of one piece bows is tough at best, so a takedown is a good idea. Here is a link to one in the classifieds: http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=216;t=000018#000000
I have a very similar Pronghorn and it is a great hunting bow, whether for hogs or anything else. The price on this one is pretty good too.
Jason Kendall has a new 47 lb Kanati in the Sponsor's Classifieds. At 58" it is probably shippable. Very good bow and at $400 it won't be available for long.
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I want to buy a new bow or customize one probably a Kanati or a falco storm.
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Would prefer one with a little wolf in it.
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There is no "best" bow for anything. There is only what works best for you. If you are doing spot and stalk hunting in typical nasty hog areas, a short(er), handy bow might be a good choice over a longer bow. You could get one of the various ILF risers in a shorter length and put some inexpensive ILF limbs on it for a reasonable price, and they can be found used for much less. Lots of people also make longbow limbs for ILF bows, so you could mix and match. You are going to have a hard time getting a custom wood bow for that price new, but there are many used. You also don't need 55lbs to kill a hog, although if you can shoot that weight there is nothing wrong with doing so.
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Originally posted by Diamond Paul:
There is no "best" bow for anything. There is only what works best for you. If you are doing spot and stalk hunting in typical nasty hog areas, a short(er), handy bow might be a good choice over a longer bow. You could get one of the various ILF risers in a shorter length and put some inexpensive ILF limbs on it for a reasonable price, and they can be found used for much less. Lots of people also make longbow limbs for ILF bows, so you could mix and match. You are going to have a hard time getting a custom wood bow for that price new, but there are many used. You also don't need 55lbs to kill a hog, although if you can shoot that weight there is nothing wrong with doing so.
Actually you need a relatively fast bow or a perfect placement to put a hog down with a trad bow they have the vitals very protected,and there are people were I live that can get me good custom bows for the price range of 500 dollars, I just want to know the ones from trad gang sponsorS that you know thats is good and is in that range price.
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I've shot a few hogs, a 45lb bow will kill them dead as a hammer. A fast bow won't matter a bit if you hit them in the wrong place, although speed is good if it doesn't cost you in some other area. I don't know of any custom bows that you can get new for $500; closer to $700 when you get into true custom bows. Wes Wallace offers his Pardner, a basic actionwood recurve with no frills, for about $650 last I checked, and that's the best deal I can think of for a top bowyer's work. It shoots the same as his top of the line Mentors, it just doesn't have the flash factor. Bob Lee used to offer a Hunter model that was a good buy, but I think they've gone up a lot. Martin Hunters are fairly reasonable, too, though not a true custom.
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Originally posted by Diamond Paul:
I've shot a few hogs, a 45lb bow will kill them dead as a hammer. A fast bow won't matter a bit if you hit them in the wrong place, although speed is good if it doesn't cost you in some other area. I don't know of any custom bows that you can get new for $500; closer to $700 when you get into true custom bows. Wes Wallace offers his Pardner, a basic actionwood recurve with no frills, for about $650 last I checked, and that's the best deal I can think of for a top bowyer's work. It shoots the same as his top of the line Mentors, it just doesn't have the flash factor. Bob Lee used to offer a Hunter model that was a good buy, but I think they've gone up a lot. Martin Hunters are fairly reasonable, too, though not a true custom.
I know one but he isn´t a sponsor so i can´t tell you in here.
And about the hog hunting, did you stalked him, and hit the vitals for behind without hitting the ribs?
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Ruan, I think you will find that a lot of our crew here have hunted hogs, many of them hunt hogs all the time. They stalk them, they sit in trees, they do it a lot of ways but stalking is done all the time here, especially in our southern states and in California.
It sounds like you already have an idea of what you want or need, and are just looking for someone with experience to concur. The problem is, those that hunt them (a lot) use recurves, and longbows, and selfbows, they use heavy bows (over 60 lbs draw) and they use lighter bows (as low as low 40 lb and some even lower than that). All of them work.
Near the top of the Pow Wow page, you will see a thread regarding "where to aim". There is great information there for you, real information from folks that do this a lot.
Searches on hog hunt threads will show you that, no one bow (or bow style) is used and no one bow draw weight is used.
BUT, they probably ALL used well flying (tuned) arrows, good sturdy broadheads that were made very sharp, and they all shot the animal in a good place.
Hogs are generally shot from fairly close. Under 20 yards and very often under ten yards. You need to be capable at those sort of ranges, and yes, you CAN get that close.
There are a lot of used bows available on the market, there are a lot of new bows (but remember, many require a wait for at times well over a year because of those "in line" before you.
Good luck. I hope you find a bow you like for not too much money. Practice, and go get a boar. Then post pictures here !
ChuckC
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Originally posted by ChuckC:
Ruan, I think you will find that a lot of our crew here have hunted hogs, many of them hunt hogs all the time. They stalk them, they sit in trees, they do it a lot of ways but stalking is done all the time here, especially in our southern states and in California.
It sounds like you already have an idea of what you want or need, and are just looking for someone with experience to concur. The problem is, those that hunt them (a lot) use recurves, and longbows, and selfbows, they use heavy bows (over 60 lbs draw) and they use lighter bows (as low as low 40 lb and some even lower than that). All of them work.
Near the top of the Pow Wow page, you will see a thread regarding "where to aim". There is great information there for you, real information from folks that do this a lot.
Searches on hog hunt threads will show you that, no one bow (or bow style) is used and no one bow draw weight is used.
BUT, they probably ALL used well flying (tuned) arrows, good sturdy broadheads that were made very sharp, and they all shot the animal in a good place.
Hogs are generally shot from fairly close. Under 20 yards and very often under ten yards. You need to be capable at those sort of ranges, and yes, you CAN get that close.
There are a lot of used bows available on the market, there are a lot of new bows (but remember, many require a wait for at times well over a year because of those "in line" before you.
Good luck. I hope you find a bow you like for not too much money. Practice, and go get a boar. Then post pictures here !
ChuckC
I am probably gonna be stalking them for take pictures before to go to Hunter in our winter.
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Not a primary consideration, but there may be significant costs added to the shipping if you get a longer bow. I am no longer knowledgable about international shipping. There also maybe restrictions on the length you may ship. If you are having a custom bow made, be sure to ask the bowyer to check on current size restrictions for International shipping.
So, you might consider getting a two or three piece take down
Bow for not much more than a longer bow once you factor shipping in.
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Originally posted by MnFn:
Not a primary consideration, but there may be significant costs added to the shipping if you get a longer bow. I am no longer knowledgable about international shipping. There also maybe restrictions on the length you may ship. If you are having a custom bow made, be sure to ask the bowyer to check on current size restrictions for International shipping.
So, you might consider getting a two or three piece take down
Bow for not much more than a longer bow once you factor shipping in.
The Falco bow Storm is short enough to ship.
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That is good. In the USA, you can run into surcharges on top of shipping if the length exceeds a certain length. Just wanted make sure you were aware of that. At least that was the way it used to be. Good luck finding your bow.
By the way I recently bought a used Shrew longbow (55#) from a tradgang member that would have been in your price range. It is my second Shrew and I am very happy with it.
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No 'best bow', but Lost Creek makes some shooters in that price range.
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Ruan, unless you are dead set on a custom wood bow, I would recommend a metal ILF riser, which can be had as short as 13" and will take any ILF limb made. The riser will run you $400-500 for a good one, but there are several ILF limbs in the $100 range that are very good. Bob Morrison (metal or wood), Dryad (wood risers), Trad Tech, Sky, and others offer these bows with various options, but any of them take ILF limbs by any maker. The aluminum risers are bombproof and they are all highly adjustable, and you can get an unlimited variety of limbs in different weights and lengths for the perfect bow for you. Value wise, they are much better than a custom wood bow, although I understand the appeal of wood and like them myself. As to where I've shot the hogs, I've shot them between the shoulder blades from above and through the chest from the side, quartering away.
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Try the Samick Sage first. It's cheap, a good solid recurve, and a tack driver at 45#.
Lancaster Archery Supply can set you up. It's a takedown, so shipping won't be as painful.
It'll give you a bow to shoot, and an opportunity to look around more for that one bow you really, REALLY, want.
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Originally posted by thumper2:
Try the Samick Sage first. It's cheap, a good solid recurve, and a tack driver at 45#.
Lancaster Archery Supply can set you up. It's a takedown, so shipping won't be as painful.
It'll give you a bow to shoot, and an opportunity to look around more for that one bow you really, REALLY, want.
I already have a bow to shoot, and I prefer a longbow,because its more silently, when buying my first bow I thought abut buying a Sage,but I found a bow that as a 30 year warranty,and I love it I would hunt with it,if it wasn´t so long so I am waiting to buy one custom made in january 15.
And sadly I just found that the dollar is at 2,736 real so i wont be able to buy my bow until it drops again...
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I have a 60" Maddog Prairie Predator 52#, that I really like, (in your price range). Check out Maddog archery online. Mike can build you one like you want. Its a reflex longbow, shoots sweet and fast. He also makes recurves.
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I believe the Trad Tech IlF bows will take longbow limbs, too. So will Dryad and Morrison IlFs. You can do either one, as you like. The Dryads are nice looking and very fast.