Hey guys just wonder what you'll like to wear when the weather ain't so fair but ya still gotta hike around? Comfort, quiet, breath's well, easy to shoot in ect...
I'll be watching this one.
I have yet to find rain wear that breathes well.
X2 what Mark said.
Sitka Dewpoint. I used it in CO in the mountains for elk. (Also use it deer hunting at home). Expensive but when you're up at 10,000ft+ and it's raining/snowing and your miles from camp you won't be thinking about the price. You'll be glad you have it
Also, it's extremely packable so it was always in my pack
Might check out FirstLite. I don't have the rain gear but I do own a few other pieces and love them. The rain gear is on my list.
I've got Kuiu rain gear. I like it a lot. Keeps me drier than anything else I have had.
Well in the world of rain gear there is nothing that will actually keep you dry and still breath well enough to not get wet on the inside if you are doing anything more than sneaking into your stand. Just the nature of no water in = NO WATER OUT! No matter what the manufacturer claims.
That said I find the best rain gear for continuous movement to be a wool outer layer. Yes, eventually even the slightest rain will get through but it holds heat so keeps you warm regardless.
For sitting I found some gear that Gander Mountain sell as "their" brand(who knows who makes it and most likely in the far east) to be comfortable, bow hunter friendly and most important QUIET! All in a relatively affordable package. Especially if you are a small dude that can get the Kids large size for over 100 less for both 1/2's(top and bottom) and it is exactly the same design.
One advantage of being small :)
I usually wear wool, but if I know it's going to be wet all day, or several days, I have a set of lightweight Rivers West that works pretty well.
I hunted elk last season in a couple of days of downpours, and I wore Mad Dog raingear. I stayed dry, and I didn't sweat up a storm from it not breathing. I bought this stuff while on a trip to the Oregon coast, where they know a little bit about rain, and it was recommended by the sales guy at a sporting goods store. I have worn in in Alaska in a constant rain, and it has done the job admirably.
QuoteOriginally posted by Kopper1013:
Hey guys just wonder what you'll like to wear when the weather ain't so fair but ya still gotta hike around? Comfort, quiet, breath's well, easy to shoot in ect...
Was curious if you were going to chime in about other weather ie. cold,rain,heat...I use rain gear almost every day during elk season. We had some major downpours and hail storms this year. To the point even the rain gear didn't work. Always seems to happen. Most days my go to pants are the sitks 90% pant. They are FAR FROM WATERPROOF.. Water resistant at best. Great for tall damp grass. Or a light rain. I wear first lite and smart wool base layers. As they are suitable late morning and throughout the day. And I always have a light jacket. Up until this year was core4. For this coming year I'd rather put my $$$ in really good rain gear. Cabelas makes some pretty nice stuff. Expensive. But probably worth it... As others have said. Regardless of what's advertised it's not going to breathe well. Quiet and not too bulky would be essential. As far as warm layers go. The wool bases and light jackets go a long way. As it seems you are always walking and heated up. I do carry a pack able down vest if I need an extra non bulky layer. It was over 80* here on the last day of the season this year :mad:
At over 10,000 feet
Swanndri !
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I've got Kuiu rain gear. I like it a lot. Keeps me drier than anything else I have had.
same here, best I've found so far.
I took the plunge and bought the Sitka downpour jacket and pants this year. I really had a hard time dropping that much coin on "rain gear", but after another uncomfortable and disappointing hunt in my old stuff this early season, I had had enough! I did some research, and it came down to Sika or Kuiu. Kuiu didn't have my size in stock, and I found a discount on the Sitka, so that's what I bought. I think the Kuiu might perform a tad better, but I will say that I am very happy with the Sitka gear. The fit is absolutely perfect for me, and is very comfortable. It has performed extremely well both on stand, and traveling to/from my stand. I never sat in a downpour, but the light to moderate precipitation that I did hunt in, the gear kept me dry both from the elements and from sweat. I wear First Lite merino wool underneath, and I'm sure that helped.
Actually, the First Lite stuff is new this year as well. I have enjoyed my hunts, and been more comfortable than ever this year.
I found myself wearing the Sitka gear much more than I anticipated, because it fit so well, and is a great layer to cut the wind from blowing through your wool. I wish I would have invested in this stuff years ago!
The one downside to the downpour series is noise. While not excessively loud, compared to wool its a bit noisy. And it does scratch against rough tree bark. And when the temp drops below probly 40*F, the fabric stiffens up a bit and makes noise when you move. But an Asbel wool jacket or the like, over the top of it, and problem solved.
Over all, I am very pleased with these garments. When it's warm, noise is not an issue (except for tree bark), when it's cold noise becomes an issue, but you'll want another layer or two anyway, and a wool layer over the top is the perfect solution.
I bought cabelas dry plus rain gear about 6 years ago. It is lightweight, pack able, & does a great job keeping you dry. I have used it from elk hunting to hunting whitetails back in the Midwest. Just spent last week here in Ohio with 6 strait days of rain and stayed dry the whole time.
After many years of either being wet when it rained or being noisy I finally bit the bullet and bought Cabelas MT050 Gore-Tex jacket and bibs. I wore them the whole week in Newfoundland in 2013 and all 5 days of this years hunt also. I love them and have never gotten wet or even damp. I have had a lot of Dry Plus from both Cabelas and Gander over the years but this my first pure Gore-Tex. They have revamped the MT050 with more pockets and a quieter outside fabric. In my mind they are perfect.
I'll second the Cabelas dry plus stuff. I like to wear the thinnest I can find and buy it x-large so I can bulk up under it with wool. To me does not matter if it does not breathe to much cause if I have wool underneath the wool can get damp and still keep me warm.
I'm going to get the First Lite rain gear this year for spring bear. I wear FL base layers and outer layers, best I've found for the $ and they have exceptional customer service.
Rain gear isn't going to breathe as well as a lightweight top or bottom, but if you have a good performing (moisture wicking) base layer that will do the trick.
Many reviews on Rokslide rated FL rain gear as the most quiet and breathable of the high performance rain gear. Also eliminates the need for a soft shell as rain gear cuts the wind better anyways
Typically when it rains in the mountains during elk season, it is usually a short rain shower. Very few all day rains. I have always carried an army poncho and probably average using it less than once a year. The poncho is great because it will cover your bow and pack until the shower is over. If it rains for a longer duration, I head to camp as we all know how tough it is to blood trail in the rain.
All ideas above are good. Four requirements, it is light, it works, it breathes, and quiet, otherwise it doesn't get used. Prefer wool, maybe a camo jacket with waterproofing unless it is pouring and windy. I still hunt, but will find a natural blind if they are moving and I know where they are. It is too easy to get hot wearing the stuff.
Hint: If you buy Dry Plus or Gore Tex, do not wash in detergent. Cabelas and others have products made to wash breathable jackets and rain gear. Follow the directions. Air Dry it.
I just got a set of Rocky brand Silent Hunter rain gear. Haven't hunted in it yet but it's really comfortable feeling when I tried it on, and soft and quiet too, light weight also, hope it works good cause I sure like the way it's going to wear!
Pretty much agree with Bill.
I have a good pair of goretex, but I think they are too heavy and too noisy.
Maybe I should have bought the Sitka raingear, but instead I bought the Hooded Jacket (Jet Stream?) and pants with re-enforced knees and seat. I wore them every day and when it rained I put on my poncho.
I am not going to try to shoot a bull elk in a down pour, so I just want to stay comfortable enough to ride out the storm or get back to the camp. I also brought a pair of gaiters but did not get the chance to use them.
I am really happy with my choice so far.
Poncho for waiting out light rain showers. If it is raining hard enough for full rain gear you shouldn't be out BOWhunting. Get back to camp, get under a small tarp and wait it out. Sorry but no one should be thinking about taking a shot at game animals while its raining hard, especially elk as they don't usually just fall over..... you might actually have to blood trail that animal.
I've tried a bunch an eVent has been far better for me then any Gore-Tex product. I can usually get away with gore on my lower half, usually a cheap pair of Swedish mil- surplu bibs and then a Westcomb Spectre jacket.
Ditto on the Cabela's dry plus. I don't like to wear the lined rain gear. It's too heavy to pack and often the showers only last a short while. The dry plus is reasonably quiet and I just throw it on and off as needed.
My favorite is the Kuiu chugach set. What I really like is the amount of ventilation that can be created using the oversized pit zips, and full length zippers on the pants. In my experience no fabric can be both waterproof and still have good ventilation, so zippers in the right places are a key feature I look for.
On almost all backcountry hunts I also wear gators. In wet conditions I think there vital because they protect the lower legs and boots from wetting out. Good gators are one of my favorite pieces of hunting gear.
Something else I like about the chugach set is how fast it dries when it does get wet ( 8 hrs of driving rain and stalking its just gonna happen). My buddy bought the Yukon guide series from Kuiu, and his dry time was always longer due to the heavy weight fabric. Nothing is perfect, but I think its one of the best out there.