Light bow shooters.
What are your arrow set-ups?
I will be acquiring a 56" shrew classic hunter 45@27 and just looking for some input.
My bow is 45# at 30in draw. I shoot full length 3 rivers trad. only 400 spine with 145gr tip.
Toelke Classic Whip 45#@28" Beaman 500's- 28.5" w/200gr.up front. Shoot that same arrow off of my Dorado at the same weight specs.
Good Shooting,
Craig
I shoot 1916 aluminums from 45lb @ 28" recurve, arrows around 29". 150 to 200 grain points, depending on how long I leave them.
Several bows 43-46#'s......2016 125gr up front full length, I draw 29".
I have had good luck with 1916's with 145 gr points. Also Gold Tip 35/55's cut to 29 1/2", 50 gr brass insert and 175 gr tips.
I've shot full length 35-55 w/175 gr tips
Mine is a Samick Phantom 40# @ 28. I draw 29.5. My arrows are cut off to 30.5. Beaman Centershot. 75 gr brass insert, 165 gr field tips. 500 spine. Just ordered some Gold Tip XT's, 500 spine shafts.
29 1/2" 2014 x7s............
Maddog 60" priarie preadtor longbow
41@28, I draw almost 28.
Easton axis trad 600 spine, 28.75 inches long, 50 grain brass with 100 grain tip.
What about wood shooters?
BigJim 56" thunderchild 53#@28". My draw is 24 7/8" so im pulling around 46lbs.
gt traditional 1535, length is 25 3/4", 50gr brass insert, 250 gr points, white lacquer caps weighs around 14gr.532gr total. 11.6gpp.
My dryad Orion acs rc 58" 51#@28" shoots the same setup except regular insert and 225 gr point
Cedars........50-55 0r 55-60 125 up front, 31" long, I draw 29"
Hoyt Buffalo #45, Easton Axis 500, 30.5", 50 gr. brass insert with 125 gr. field point
I shoot aluminum 2016's at 30 inches with 125gr tips. At my 29 inch draw, my bow is around 42lbs.
Obviously, 1 inch is not enough for the head to clear the shelf, so my next set will be 31" 2117's with 175gr heads (conveniently close to the weight of a zwickey delta screw-in ;) ). In my defense, I thought my draw was 28 when I made them.
That setup should keep roughly the same stiffness- my arrow flight is good enough that I've had multiple compliments on it. It should be a better hunting weight in any case.
I like the aluminum's because they're cheap- just because they fly well doesn't mean I don't miss targets :)
I do wish they were a bit less noisy, but they seem to hold up well until I shoot things like rocks or blocks of concrete
Gamegetters are the cheapest, but the plastic nock bushings can split on hard impacts (though usually these also bend the arrow, so maybe it's a moot point).
I also have Easton Camo's and they're the same just with aluminum bushings
I sometimes shoot my son's 41@28 Don Dow stick bow; I draw about 29.5 inches. We use carbon express predatorII 20-40's [.623 spine] cut to 30 inches, and can use 150 to 200 grains on the tip and they shoot well.
I shoot 42# - 44# recurves with Goldtip ultralight 600s cut to 29.5" with 125g - 145g. My draw is 27.75".
A little more information about your draw length and desired point weight would help.
In the interim I shoot 29" Easton Axis 600's with 220 grains up front drawn 28" from my 44# @ 28" Super Shrew Classic Hunter. With wood arrows I shoot 29.5" 60-63# spine cedar arrows with 165 grain heads from a 41#@28" Super Shrew Lil Favorite 56" recurve.
A rough rule of thumb for wood arrows from Super Shrew's is to add 15# to bow weight at 28" draw. Add or subtract 5#'s for every inch drawn over or under 28". Add 1# spine for every 5 grains point weight over 125 grains. Now that's just rough estimate.
Recurve and Hybrid: 45-47# @ 27". 1916 cut 28" BOP. 125gr target points or 145gr broadheads fly perfectly.
R/D Longbows: 42-47# @ 27". 1816 cut 28" BOP. 125gr target points or 135gr broadheads fly perfectly.
I would like to shoot a 1916 or a 15/35.
Just curious if anyone has exact numbers on grains per inch when stuffing arrows with paracord or weed wacker cord. Id like to make the arrow slightly heavier if I decide to use 15/35's
If that 45@27 is the specs at your draw length, I believe you will love the way a .600 spine arrow will perform for you. A 500 could also work but would have to be longer and heavier...very heavy. Anything stiffer and you are doing something wrong..or reading something wrong. GT1535's or cx 75's would be my choice.
BigJIm
1916's with 125 gr up front but I'm going to play with 2016's a nd a heavier head in the off season; 45# @ 28" - draw 28.5
46# @ 26" -recurves and longbows, sitka spruce 55-60 shoot great. With re curves I can go up to 60-65 140 gr. heads.
Like Mike89 I shoot 2016s with 125 grain heads (Magnus stingers) I draw 29 inches. I have multiple bows in the 40-50# range that I can make work with 2016s.
I'm another member of the 2016 fan club and I cut my Legacys 29.5" bop to a 125gr Eskimo. I've got a 28.5" draw and shoot them out of a 48# @ 28" Tall Tines.
I'm more of a carbon shooter (although 1916s and 2016s work well depending on point weight).
I like 1535s at about 29.5" with 125 up front (not including the standard insert) for a light arrow.
My favorite all-around arrow is a GT3555 cut to 30" with 175gr points (or 160 gr Zwickey 2-blades). flies well out of all of my 43# - 46# bows.
Draw length would be very helpful to know. A 45# @ 30" bow for an archer who draws a true 30" shoots much faster than a bow that's 45# at 26" drawn to 26". Those two examples would require very different arrow setups.
I shoot woods, and currently a Javaman Falcon (very similar to the Super Shrew), around 46@27". I've searched up some threads here myself to help figure out the spine.
Ray Lyon and Ron LaClair have offered their suggestions, and those guys obviously know their Shrews. As I recall, Ron stated going 15 lbs. above draw weight as the starting point for his bows.
That would be assuming a 28" arrow and 125 grain point, I believe.
Greg Coffey recommends adding between 15-20lbs for his bows.
Of course, a longer arrow or heavier point will need to be factored in, if applicable. Also, I think Shrews made pre 2011 were cut 1/8"
before center, and cut to center since then.
For what it's worth (and I'm tuning impaired), I get excellent flight with 57/60's, around 28", with 100 grains up front (broad head or field point), also 65/70's, around 28 3/4's, with 125 BH's or 145 field points. Had a couple of test shafts 60&64lbs that never flew right, but I really think it was something about those particular shafts, not the spine. I think 60/65's might be the ticket for me next set.
Sorry for the long story, hope it'll help some. Feel free to PM if ya want.
I have a 27" draw. So this shrew bow will be 45lbs @ 27"s which is why im kind of leaning towards a 1916 or a .600 carbon.
9 Shocks, I think some highly knowledgeable folks here are agreeing those 1916's or .600's will be mighty close for you.
Goes with what I think would work with wood, and they have a heck of a lot of experience than me. Sounds like you'd be pretty well set with what you're thinking.
I agree with Jim. I draw 26-27" (depending on mood...) and shoot hybrids, mostly, in that range, 45-48 @ my draw.
We are in a cusp between the .500 and .600 spine arrows.
I use 175 grain heads, cut all my arrows to 28" for simplicity, and sometimes add brass inserts for weight when using 35-55 Gold Tips. I switch 35-55 and 15-35 Gold Tips all the time, both fly well, but I like a bit more upfront weight with the stiffer spine.
Killdeer :archer:
40@28 and draw almost 29. 58" Chinook and my 500 full length axis trads fly perfect. 150 grain point
Bow...43@28...draw 27"s...HV350---29 3/8"...50 gn insert...250 gn BH...27.5% EFOC...520 gn total.
Bow...43@28...draw 27"s...HV350---29 3/8"...50 gn insert...250 gn BH...27.5% EFOC...520 gn total.
45 @ 26.5 RER Retro 29 inch CE Heritage 90's with 200 grain points.
Bob Lee 3 piece, 46 @28" my draw 27.5. GT5575 50 gr. brass insert 145 gr point cut to 29.5 4X4 Fletch.
Bob Lee one piece, 46 @28 GT3555 50 gr. brass insert cut to 29.5 145 gr point 4X4 Fletch.
Howard Hill 45@ 28" 1916 cut to 28.25 200 gr. point 4X4 Fletch.