Update! I found him and he's a hog!!! Pictures to follow! Read the harvest thread and full story here:
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=211&t=000104
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From 6/7/14- Well gang, yesterday was a sad day! Bad shooting on my part! I shot a nice buck at about 30 yards and hit him essentially midline of the torso with a razor sharp snuffer 145 grain. The arrow passed through and we found it a few yards into the trail. I shot him at about 8 o'clock yesterday morning the sixth and waited until 4 o'clock that evening to track him. A buddy and I tracked him for about 150 to 200 yards at 4 o'clock that evening and then I came back later and tracked him with Goodblood every 1 to 3 feet for another 150 yards.
He headed the opposite direction that I thought And the blood trail stops in sick Greenbriar right next to the Access road. It looks like he may have bedded down here but that's not conclusive as there's no obvious bed or pile of blood.
I get off early this afternoon and plan on tracking some more. Any advice?
Other details: all the blood we found was dark in color indicating that I may have gotten liver and there were no signs of any intrails or intestinal shot. Also, he headed downhill and towards water which I'll be checking out later this afternoon.
After reading some previous threads, my advice would be just stick with it. Chances are he has expired by now, go find him!
Keep us updated on how it goes!
Michael, Was there gut matter on the arrow? From the location of the hit it sounds like a gut shot although you may have hit liver. When you get to the last blood mark it well visible from a distance and then make semi circles out in front increasing in size to search ahead for the next blood. If you completely lose the trail and can't find anymore sign look for the nearest water. Many times a gut shot deer will head for water. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
If you got liver, he is dead. If you got guts, perotinitis will get him and he will die within a few hours. Keep trailing and you will find him. Do you have access to a tracking dog? If not, grid search.
Get as many people as you can and start to do a grid pattern search. Keep close to each other and keep working the area till your positive he ain't there. Then go work the next logical spot
If tracking dogs are legal in OK, that would be my first choice!
Bisch
Yep, liver shot deer is a dead deer. I would imagine he is dead by now. Maybe a tracking dog would be a good idea.
If you have had good blood, try to pick up the trail. he may have stood in the thick stuff to watch his back trail after the hit. Tracking dogs can be amazing if you have access Here is a link to an organization of certified trackers across the country. I used to find one in my area last year.
http://www.unitedbloodtrackers.org/
If you run into a cold trail, check he areas parallel to the blood trail. I've seen several bucks circle back and bed down off to the side of their back trail. Check the uphill side first, I know everyone says look downhill, but every buck I've seen that circled back in this situation was found uphill where he could look down on his back trail. Also walk the nearest waterway. Good luck.
My guess is he is in the green briars if you left him alone. If it was just a gut shot - I would have someone on other side of green briars in case you jump him. If there is water nearby and you don't find him - look there. very seldom does a pure gut shot bleed heavily. Based on where you said you hit him and the color of the blood, You either got some liver (which is my guess) or you hit a large vein. If the blood was dark red then you know if was liver - that buck will begin to feel the effects of that shot petty quickly and will usually be fatal within an hour. So - he probably is not much further then where you found last blood unless you pushed him?
My fear is that I may have spooked him on my way out at about 1 o'clock :banghead:
If you got the liver, I seriously doubt that he went that far, seeing as you waited a good while to take up the track. You would have found him dead far sooner, unless it was a very peripheral liver hit. As everyone above said, find someone with a tracking dog, quickly, before someone else stumbles upon your deer.
I have read that one option is find a set of tracks. Measure the distance between one set and another using a stick of some sort. Now you can lay that stick out one the ground and look for his next set is various directions. Now, I have never tried this, just read about it.
Also with my limited medical background a biological response to a traumatic injury is thirst. I would bet he went towards the water...
Be sure to let us know how you do.
I agree with the previous posters about trying to find someone with a dog. I would explore that option before having a large group of people doinga grid search solely because they can mess up the scent trail if you gain access to a dog afterward.
Good luck and keep us posted.
In my experience a liver shot deer can go a long ways. Keep at it and like others said he probably isn't too much farther from where u left off. Good luck!
Thanks Michael for the tracking dog site! I'm left a voicemail with a gentleman who is about an hour and a half from me in Monette Missouri
Down in this part of the country coyotes would have made a snack of him with that much time. Hope you find him. Track with confidence many have been found when hit there.
Don't let yourself get discouraged. My best buck to date I shot through the liver and he lived four hours. I waited four hours to trail him and although he only went 100 yards he still had a couple kicks in him trying to get up when I found him. If I had trailed him sooner who knows how far he may have gone. Again, good luck and let us know if you get a dog on him.
Keep at it,
good advice so far.
With what you have described, you have a dead deer somewhere.
Go in the morning and look for crows and buzzards. They will go to the carcass at first light and make a big rukus.
I'm in Pawhuska about an hour north of Tulsa and will be coming through in the am on my way to dallas and I have a tracking dog. Give me a cal 214-729-0326. I'll help you out.
Now that is Trad Gang at it's best! :thumbsup:
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Good luck and keep after him!
Im expcting pictures too!
Best of luck in your search, I have faith you will find him not far from the last place you had blood.
John
Ok, Michael. Let's get an update, mister! Lol. Hope things are going well for you this morning. I'm anxiously awaiting the happy ending to this story......
Dead deer. Hope you get the guy with the dog. Gut shots are the easiest for tracking dogs to follow.
ive been there before on a liver shot taking forever to be fatal. love that theres a tradganger with a dog nearby!
I 2nd what centaur said. Liver shot he's done by now. Gut shot he could go for days.
I gut shot a buck, years ago. Found him, still alive, bedded down, about 36hrs later. He was so week he couldn't get up. I had to finish him with my knife.
Keep looking. You'll find him.
Update folks! I found him... pictures will follow. Special thanks to Justin Amons!! Thanks for the help tracking and the drag out
Super! What great feeling.
Congrats!
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ALRIGHT, great news!
Looking forward to seeing him. Congrats on finding him!
I love happy endings! But we need all the details. Congrats - way to stick with it!
Looking forward to your pictures! Congratulations on finding him with the help of a fellow tradganger and pooch.
Bernie
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Good Job !!!! :thumbsup:
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Woohoo! Congratulations!
Yeah, tell us about the pup and how the tracking went ! and of course PIX !
CHuckC
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Great news, congratulations! We had faith in you.
That's awesome!!! :clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
david
Great news :clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
Sounds great! Looking forward to pictures!
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Glad to hear it!!
I sure am glad you found him! I was getting worried that it was not going to turn out good for you.
Congrats, and can't wait for the story and pics!
Bisch
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Awesome! Way to keep at it!!!
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Good deal ...
,,Sam,,,
Glad you found him, and patiently waiting.
Good to hear. looking forward to story. Congrats
good news!!!!!! cant wait for pics
Congrats that's great
Got yo love them Drahthaars!!
Great buck, Michael! I knew there would be a happy ending for ya! Way cool for Justin and "best friend" to help!
Now Michael, I just need you to look at some satellite pics of the Hominy area of McAAP and tell me where to go! Cuz you sure are a scoutin' machine!
Congrats, buddy!!!
A stud. Tell us about the recovery and what the autopsy revealed.
Great job Michael!!!
Justin and his dog are my heroes! Way cool, happy for all of you.
Man he sure is a beauty! Glad this turned out with a happy ending.
Aweseome! It's so great to see these stories end happily! Congrats!
Great job Michael! What a great buck!! Congrats bud!!
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Outstanding!
Thanks guys and great buck Michael! My pup didn't find much beyond the blood he already knew about. His persistence won out. We just kept working the grid looking and got lucky. I don't think the buck had been dead long. He wasn't that stiff, or that stinky, and nothing had eaten on him yet. Big win for team trad gang! Were you able to save the meat, or too risky you think, Michael?
Congrats!! Way to stick with it!!
congrats! happy you found this pig! what a stud!
Wow what a GREAT Oklahoma buck. Congrats and way to find him. Good lord I could not of rested until I found him either.
For you guys that are not familiar with Oklahoma deer that one is as standout.
Great! Great Story. Lots of suspense followed by a very nice buck. Congrats.
Fabulous harvest!
Congrats!
Congratulations!
Congrats on a very nice buck, and memorable hunt. :thumbsup:
Happy for you,,,glad you found him. Congrats!
Justin. . what breed is your pup ? I can't tell if he is a GWP, a Drahthaar or a WPG ? (or yet another) ? I have a WPG pup that has a hell of a nose, and is destined for some trail training soon.
and Micheal. . . yeah !
ChuckC
congrats ... great recovery :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Congrats!!! Glad you found him.
Congrats. way to stick with it and get great help. Trad Gang pulls through yet again.
Congrats.
awesome! I kept checking back to this one hoping for a happy ending.
What a brute! Glad you were able to find him, and that is a beautiful dog.
Awesome job with you're persistance it paid off! thats a gorgeous buck. Congratulations!
QuoteOriginally posted by centaur:
A stud. Tell us about the recovery and what the autopsy revealed.
I'd love to hear this too!
I'm glad that you were able to find him, well done, he's a brute!
-Jay
Great follow-up, glad you found him. Congrats.
Michael, Glad you found him! Can you give us an autopsy report? One lung? Liver? Location of the hit? May help the rest of us on future tracking jobs.
Congratulations! Glad you found him. Too nice to lose. I lost one at MCAAP a couple weeks ago. Not as nice as yours but my first deer to shoot with trad gear. Thanks to the local MCAAP biologist I did get my head.
You can read the autopsy report and see the shot placement here in my harvest bread: http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=211&t=000104
I hit the posterior lobe of the liver and shot right through the spleen just barely missing the left lung on the way out.
And I just hung the mount today
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Nice job!
He turned out great!
Way to stick with it!
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Very nice!
looks good Michael
Wow! Great deer and beautiful mount!
Looks awesome Michael!!
Looks great, Michael.
Looks great, Michael.
Looks great!
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Nice! I also like the way you have it mounted with the picture and traditional bowhunter thing.
Great to see him all cleaned up. Congrats again Brother!