I used to think I was terrible at sharpening broad heads, but come to find out this fall it wasn't me it was my equipment. I was using a large file and regular stones. I ordered a set of KME's gold series diamond stones and now I can get my heads super sharp. Unbelievable difference. If you are using regular stones and knowing your heads aren't as sharp as they could be, take my word for it and get some of these and give them a try. You will be amazed.
I hope this helps someone. You can find them here.
http://kmesharp.com/kmegosediho.html
Thanks Ron!
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Is that stand a KME product ?
Yes Ken it is.
Have that setup and love it!!
KME and Ron are the schnizz!!!
My KME gets my broadheads realllllly sharp!
Bisch
Thanks TJ ... looks very interesting, I definitely need some type of guide to help me get BH's sharp. I have purchased some KME sharpened heads in the St Judes auction and they where definitely sharp !!
funny this thread today ..
I have the KME sharpener, and was honing my 170 Zwickey Delta's
I noticed ... when I oiled the stones, the broadhead wasn't cleanly removing the oil ... meaning I could see "skips" where it was like the head wasn't touching the stone.
I believe the edge is set - I believe the stone isn't 100% flat
popping hair sharp ... but they could be better with these diamond stones ya'll reckon ?
Brad,
It's more than likely the head isn't flat...they grind those on a round wheel...and if that factory grinding wheel is not dressed frequently it creates a recurring wave in the blades.
Many heads show it, I especially noticed it on the old Snuffers in the past.
Try a black magic marker on your edge, then run a file over it lightly- see if there aren't spots that are high and low.
My original KME stones are about worn out. I was just looking at that set of diamonds the other day and was wondering about it. Think you just sold me.
I agree with Ray. The stones are flat unless they get worn out. Ron's diamond stones will be slightly more aggressive than the natural stones.
What I like to do is to get the primary edge bevel flat and achieve a burr, then increase the angle by a degree + or - and finish it off with a finer grit with a few light strokes.
I used the sharpie and got the edge right I believe - these are older stones, its not a great difference but its enough ... and I get a pretty sharp head
I like sharper :)
Ray is right, The grind from the shop is not always perfect and they can even vary from side to side on the same head. Thats what makes the KME invaluable. I always do this process every time I sharpen as the angles are different. These diamond stones make quick work of it also even on a brand new head it now takes me very few swipes. Like Lynn I always increase the angle just a bit on the final 1500 grit stone and very lightly hit just the cutting edge.
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KME not set high enough.
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Just right
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I also got Ron's Emulsion and a leather strop to finish each edge and it makes them polished smooth in no time. I can't tell you how pleased I am with these products and now can easily get my heads like they should be.
http://kmesharp.com/cbnemulsions.html
The set of diamond stones comes with 100, 300, 600 and 1500 grit. I seldom start with the 100 grit unless I completely need to change the angle of the entire grind angle.
Thanks for the information Tom.
I'll sharpie and look again ... but I set the edge on all my Delta's and they originally had the gaps showing in consistent edging. I got through that, using the KME and my heads shave some .... but they don't have that scary "bite" to them that some heads can have. You know... when you go to shave arm hair and the heads wants to bite into your flesh and cut you vs popping hairs ?
that's the scary sharp I'm unable to attain ... and I strop using an old leather belt as well
I'm not unhappy with the sharpness ... but they could be sharper still
Brad,
Are you using these diamond stones? Had a lot to do with the metal in the head also?
Consistent angle is the key! Yes factory sharping leaves a lot to be desired as the pics prove! I'm still using a old Lansky that is about wore out. When it's time to replace, and soon, it will be replace with a KME!
I stay with a coarse diamond stone presently now and just end up with very very light strokes when removing the burr. It in a microscopic way leaves a scary sharp serrated edge that has worked well for me for many years now. I sharpen from tip to back as a broadhead cuts on going in rather than a knife on the pull stroke. Just be careful not to use to much force with diamond stones. Just let them do their job and that's it. KME is on my Christmas wish list for sure.
I am not using diamond stones - I have no idea where I got the stones I have, the double sided ones (course and fine) grit seems to be good. By that, I mean as I roll the KME, the film of oil on the stone I applied is evenly "removed" as the head goes across the stone.
But my smooth stone ... there are "gaps" ... streaks, like the head isn't sitting evenly on the stone.
If diamond stones are all that, if diamond stones would take my sharpening to the next level and my heads from popping hair to scalpel sharp .... I'd buy them
I promise you they will. Amazing results and much faster.
With my meatheads, I can't get the angle high enough? No matter how I put it I can't get it to take the marker off the cutting edge only the top of the bevel? Using the knife sharpener. Anyone else experienced this or am I doing something wrong?
Thumper, with the 100 grit diamond stone, it wouldn't take to awful long to redo the entire bevel. Or you can use the broadhead sharpener and a big bastard file.
I wish they would come out with some curved stones for the Sharks.... I have the jewel stick but I prefer stones to finsih they off
Informative thread!
QuoteOriginally posted by DaveT1963:
I wish they would come out with some curved stones for the Sharks.... I have the jewel stick but I prefer stones to finsih they off
I believe they have those. Double check the website, but I'm sure that they have a set specifically for the Simmons type heads.
QuoteOriginally posted by Fattony77:
QuoteOriginally posted by DaveT1963:
I wish they would come out with some curved stones for the Sharks.... I have the jewel stick but I prefer stones to finsih they off
I believe they have those. Double check the website, but I'm sure that they have a set specifically for the Simmons type heads. [/b]
I saw they have a jewel stick but I did not see any hones or diamond hones?
Holy smokes, Thanks very much Tom!
Who knew that not only are you a deer killin' machine but an excellent photagrapher as well! :thumbsup:
I'm glad to hear that you like the new diamond stones and yea, that CBN emulsion on the strops is pretty amazing stuff right? That's the same progression that I've been using on my BHDs too- 300, 600, 1500 grit diamonds followed by the strop with 4 micron CBN. Face shaving sharp, and it doesn't take very long either.
Dave T, the Jewelstick is a 3 sided diamond hone with the same 3 grits as the gold series hones. It's just convex shaped instead of flat so it can sharpen concave blades like Simmons. I don't have a convex strop to go with the Jewelstick yet but we hope to add one in the not too distant future. Until then it would be fairly simple to make one with a 1/2"- 3/4" wood dowel with a piece of thin leather glued to it. Could even drill a hole in one end so that the guide rod would screw in. Thanks very much again to everyone! :thumbsup:
Ron