has anyone ever damaged a grizzly broadhead, if so could you you post a picture and say how
I have damaged plenty.... But I also shoot squirrels and other critters off rock walls and such !!! New England is rocky. Mine break 1/3 of the way down usually
But I bet I break only about 20% of heads shot directly into rocks or trees (usually after passing through an animal)
They are GREAT heads! Easy to sharpen, tough, and affordable.
They will outlast most other two-blades in the same price range
I bent one in an elk shoulder blade. Shot the bull at 8 yards from 15ft up a tree. I found that broad head the next year. While recovering an elk I shot out of the same tree!
I've had them bend on heavy bone in boar hogs and once a feral sheep. Like Tyler, have hit some rocks here in the Granite State! In fairness, mine were the old Griz, haven't shot Bill's newer version.
I like them a lot. I have some of the newer ones. 180 grain I believe. I broke one on a direct hit on a hard rock. The front 1/3 or so broke off. I think I would prefer that to one that curled at the tip. I think I was using it on a +600 grn arrow out of a 59# bow. Definitely NOT the heads fault. I will continue to use them when I can.
I do not have photo available, but I think it is the toughest broad head I own, and pretty easy to sharpen.
I had a slight tip curl on entry this year. The head struck the back part of a mule deer shoulder blade just above the juncture with the numerous. The head then knocked out a two inch chunk of rib, passed through both lungs and exited between ribs on the off side. The arrow stayed in the deer until about five feet from where it went down.
I bent very tip of one on a rock but was able to fix be bending with pliers and some fairly heavy filing
One of the toughest heads out there. Difficult to destroy. Just about any BH with the right angle and the right rock can get damaged.
I haven't used a Grizzly old or new I can't comment on them directly. However almost no broadhead is going to survive an angled strike against stone. Even integral types will generally bend against that type of hit.
I shot a Kodiak 200 gr directly into a rock due to missing a muley. The front portion of the head bent about 20 degrees. Arrow weighed 640 grains and flies about 190 FPS.
I also shot one into a deer's spine from directly above...the head bent very slightly and still passed through the bottow of the deer's chest.
In both cases I was able to striaghten, re-sharpen and continue to use head.
I took the shoulder blade out of the ELk that I shot this year and shot at it post mortem, with a 160 grain griz with 125 grain adapter and a 110 grqin insert (high FOC). I love these heads more than any other I have shot, but don't recommend intentionally shooting into the shoulder bone. My BH bent about 20 degrees at the tip and the ferrule broke a chunk out which separated the BH with the rest of the arrow. I will still use them, almost exclusively, as they penetrate deep ( I had a full passs through on the Elk through the rib cage) but will respect that area of the Elk in the future!
QuoteOriginally posted by Trinity Bowcrafter:
I took the shoulder blade out of the ELk that I shot this year and shot at it post mortem, with a 160 grain griz with 125 grain adapter and a 110 grqin insert (high FOC). I love these heads more than any other I have shot, but don't recommend intentionally shooting into the shoulder bone. My BH bent about 20 degrees at the tip and the ferrule broke a chunk out which separated the BH with the rest of the arrow. I will still use them, almost exclusively, as they penetrate deep ( I had a full passs through on the Elk through the rib cage) but will respect that area of the Elk in the future!
Edward, The picture of your elk did not come through in your email to me. I'd love to see it.
Here is a broadhead mounting tip. Regardless of what type of head your mounting. Be sure when you mount your heads that you press in hard enough that you do not leave a glue line between your insert and the inside of the farrel. When you do not get the insert seated completely that is exactly what you get. I can reproduced your result in testing. Every time the insert is not seated completely it will blow out the side of the farrel when the glue line fails and the insert tries to go forward the compressed air inside the farrel WILL make its way out. :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by barewithme:
has anyone ever damaged a grizzly broadhead, if so could you you post a picture and say how
Sean, Grizzly's have been in production since 1984. Lord only knows how many have been produced. You are bound to find some stories about failures. Any broadhead company that tells you they have never had a failure is either lying to you or they have not really tested their heads. That is regardless of what that head cost! You can shoot Grizzly's with confidence. For every instance where you find a Grizzly failure there are MANY MANY thousands of stories about their toughness and success in the field. If you have any questions at all feel free to give me a call. 937-444-0904
Bill
Broadheads fail Bill, say it ain't so! Guys grizzly has to be one of the toughest broadheads out there bar none because of their construction. That being said I love to see pictures and stories of folded heads because there is a lot to be learned when one is destroyed. Lord knows I've buckled up my fair share. Shoulders are hell on any head and a fraction of an inch difference of where you hit that bone will change a head from being lodged in bone to folding it over and inevitably the arrow falling out and those are the ones we find. Moral of the story is stay out of that shoulder.
I've shot a couple hundred hogs...hit some big bones...never had one bend/break. That's just me...I'm sure they have.
Ed Ashby intentionally shot them into cape buffalo and eland shoulder bones during his Natal Study and it was the only head that did not fail in his tests.
They're very rugged.
QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Hammond:
Ed Ashby intentionally shot them into cape buffalo and eland shoulder bones during his Natal Study and it was the only head that did not fail in his tests.
They're very rugged.
Good point Ray. I'd rely a lot more on Dr. Ashby's controlled tests in deciding how tough a head is. Grizzlies are at the top of the list when it comes to toughness!
Nobody wants to hit a shoulder bone, and there is not a head made that will recommend doing it on purpose. But if it ever happens a Grizzly gives you a better chance at something good coming out of it than just about any head on the market.
In my opinion as long as there is a dead animal at the end of the trail, that's all that matters. There is no broadhead that is 100% bullet proof., grizzlies are my favorite heads.
This was my toughest combination that I built for shooting a water buffalo. An internally footed AD Trad using the old Schoonover Grizzly that was modified and ended up at 175 grains. The entire arrow weighed 715 grains. I tested the integrity of of the joints by shooting a half dozen directly into the "V" on a length of steel angle iron that I drove into the ground with a post driver. This was the worst damage I saw with a bending of the tip ahead of the ferrule. The ferrules stayed true and straight with no damage to the adapters, inserts, footing, or shafts. It was a great head for the money. The last batch I purchased were a bunch of 200 grain heads he made after re-tooling before he sold out. I'm still hunting out of that batch, not sure which version I'd switch to when my supply is gone.
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