The boys at Rocky Mountain Specialty Gear have put together another top shelf product. I have spent the last several days playing with these broadheads.
I have never been a big single bevel guy. This head is making me reconsider my position. Initial impressions are great. The proportions on this head are great. I took one to the stone and it sharpened very well. The steel is hard and the edge held well after shooting into several mediums.
Flight was perfect. I like when broadheads shoot in the same place as my field points. It was time for toughness testing. I started with half inch plywood and went up to 2.5 inches shooting from straight on to extreme angles. I was quite please with the results.
I will add some pictures later on. Until then here is imagination at work.
RMSGear CUTTHROAT BROADHEADS (http://www.rmsgear.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=99)
They look good. When a right bevel is available, I will probably give them a try.
I saw those on their blog site the other day. They look pretty good to me and maybe I'll give some a whirl sometime. Seem to be pretty bomb proof. Rick.
They look to be very well made,you can't beat the warranty too.
Wicked!
Looks like someone produced a Grizzly glue-on and a VPA screw-on
QuoteOriginally posted by awbowman:
Looks like someone produced a Grizzly glue-on and a VPA screw-on
These are not "Grizzly" "VPA" copies. I assure you I have all of them. There certain differences along pros and cons to all.
Hey thanks for posting this Randy. I just opened up Trad Gang to write a post about the broadheads.
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Made in the USA
Machined from one piece of steel
Teflon coated
25° taper
Nothing new really. We just couldn't find what we wanted, and what our customers asked for on a continual basis, in a one piece head.
I sent an Email to our Newsletter subscribers and we sold out of our initial run right away. We will be getting more soon, and by next hunting season have a healthy stock in place.
I am still allowing orders to be placed on our website, and they will obviously be shipped immediately when we get more heads in stock. We are still playing with grinding methods, getting packaging materials, etc.
You can read about our journey and why we built a broadhead on our blog (http://rmsgear.blogspot.com/) .
We have a Facebook page that we'll be updating as well, both for RMSGear and for Cutthroat Broadheads.
https://www.facebook.com/cutthroatbroadheads
https://www.facebook.com/rmsgear
One piece machined head without any weld spots/points makes the head stronger. Hope to see the grade steel, Rockwell hardness. I like it, but feel the price may be an issue. :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by awbowman:
Looks like someone produced a Grizzly glue-on and a VPA screw-on
asbowman, yes, those are two awesome heads. We still sell and recommend both, depending on a customers needs, wants, preferences, etc.
There is nothing new here, really (is there ever?). The Cutthroat offers a time tested and proven design, but in machined one piece construction.
I'd love to try them, but I need right bevel due to my fletching jig. Are you guys thinking of producing those too? Rick.
Yes, absolutely Rick. We kind of missed the prime broadhead selling season this year so we didn't go crazy on our first run. We still underestimated the response and sold out within a few days.
I hope to see a right bevel as well.
Not a problem Tommy. I'll try them when they come out.
BTW, love following your guys blog. I'll have to join your mail list. You've had quite a season!!! Hope it carries on for the rest of the fall.
I have mine ordered, anxiously waiting on arrival!! Have shot single bevel for 30 a long time and as Ferritwyo these are not a copy of grizzly or other heads.
QuoteOriginally posted by highPlains:
QuoteOriginally posted by awbowman:
Looks like someone produced a Grizzly glue-on and a VPA screw-on
asbowman, yes, those are two awesome heads. We still sell and recommend both, depending on a customers needs, wants, preferences, etc.
There is nothing new here, really (is there ever?). The Cutthroat offers a time tested and proven design, but in machined one piece construction. [/b]
That zoomed in picture shows me that they look a good bit stouter (and different) than the Grizzly's. Looks like you may be on to the ultimate broadhead
They are not hurting for thickness.
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Cant wait to get mine. Been wanting to try single bevel for a while. Price point seems to be in line with wensel elites-simmons-centaur just to name a few.
any plans for a heavier screw in head ?
QuoteOriginally posted by drewsbow:
any plans for a heavier screw in head ?
Yes, absolutely. Heavier is easy and absolutely in our plans. It's lighter that is tough to accomplish while still having decent length and blade thickness.
nice , I'll keep an eye on this one
Joined the mailing list! Can't wait for a 250gr. screw-in, right hand bevel to be released!!
Nice looking BH, I like the longer angle on the point.
Got mine in the mail today. Tommy I think you are going to have a hard time keeping these in stock they look awesome. Great job :clapper: :clapper:
Nice broadhead. I'll have to save a bunch of lunch money and stop by for a few.
Tom, how do we get on the newsletter list?
homebru
I bought mine the other day, these are the third brand of single bevels I've had, iI was able to get all three of them shaving sharp in less time than I was ever able to get one of the other brands sharp, probably faster than getting the grind set on one of the other brands. They even are tailor made for the KME, , you just slide it into the jaws up to the ferrule and tighten it down and it's perfectly set. Can't wait to get out deer hunting again and hopefully put them to the real test.
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You right bevel guys, it's worth refletching a couple of arrows, I did!
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I'll be your huckleberry, but I need right bevel.. :archer:
I like that a lot. Very nice. You will be hearing from me soon.
Wow! Nice looking bow with an awesome Broadhead on your FB page :) :)
Broadhead collectors love it when guys reinvent the wheel. LOL
I had you in mind the whole time, Bob ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by Homebru:
Nice broadhead. I'll have to save a bunch of lunch money and stop by for a few.
Tom, how do we get on the newsletter list?
homebru
You can subscribe from our blog, from our bow inventory page, or you can create an account through our website and click the option to receive promotional material.
I send out an Email per month, or so, to let people know when we update the bow inventory. Maybe a few other small things here and there, like when we run a sale at the end of the year. I promise not to spam you too hard!
Tom I hope you have so at the high country shoot this summer.
For sure Ryan!
Just got word from Tom, my Dad, who is hunting in Wisconsin right now. He shot a doe about an hour ago, she died within 30 yards of the shot. I hope to have a decent picture and report later tonight.
QuoteOriginally posted by highPlains:
You can subscribe from our blog, from our bow inventory page, or you can create an account through our website and click the option to receive promotional material.
I send out an Email per month, or so, to let people know when we update the bow inventory. Maybe a few other small things here and there, like when we run a sale at the end of the year. I promise not to spam you too hard!
You mean that great big box that says SIGN UP FOR OUR NEWSLETTER HERE? Doh!
:knothead:
homebru
Congratulations to tom. Tommy tell him if he's hungry on the way home I'll buy him lunch in Dubuque.
RW and I'm all in!
Never could understand LW feather, LH helical, or L bevel. Last time I checked when my arrow is spinning counterclockwise and the head sticks into something hard the arrow screws off the head. Suppose it's a good idea with wood arrows though? I'll stick to RW as well. IMO...RH should have been 1st as it at least has an argument behind it.... Just my opinion..
The head looks awesome either way!
QuoteOriginally posted by Manitoba Stickflinger:
Never could understand LW feather, LH helical, or L bevel. Last time I checked when my arrow is spinning counterclockwise and the head sticks into something hard the arrow screws off the head. Suppose it's a good idea with wood arrows though? I'll stick to RW as well. IMO...RH should have been 1st as it at least has an argument behind it.... Just my opinion..
The head looks awesome either way!
Thanks Ryan. We went with left bevel to start strictly because of our sales data.
As I've heard LW is/was much more popular due to the fact that when commercial turkeys had their wings clipped it was typically the right wing. Thus, there were more left wing flight feathers available for fletching, etc. and they became the 'standard'. For most people who are right-handed it probably is true. I think I read it on one of the feather producer's websites; e.g. Gateway, Trueflight, etc.....maybe it's just a fairy tale?? :)
Well I ordered a set of the 200gr screw-ins and they arrived today. For you guys that asked, blade thickness is .065. They are pretty hard steel, probably 54 rockwell. I use the Simons sharpening system and they sharpened up pretty quick to my standards. They spin true and fly well.
I'm kinda a broadhead junky and like to shoot what I am considering hunting with into fresh cow shoulder blades to see how they perform. One very important factor of a good penetrating broadhead is ferrule diameter... it MUST be larger than the arrow diameter or the arrow shaft stops penetration through the bone. Time and time again I have seen this happen, the shaft literally hangs up in the bone stopping penetration. This heads ferrule diameter is larger than my 5/16 brass inserts and the 5575 Traditional behind it. Well done! :clapper:
I think I would like a RB over a left though. :pray:
Any updates on performance and/or production? Really looking forward to this broadhead in right bevel!
I'd go for a 200 gr screw in if it had a 3 to 1 ratio like the glue on.
Looks like a nice broadhead, but at $15.00 each??? I will stick with my Zwickee heads, unless Randy wants to loan me a couple.
Gene, trust me, I understand. I wish there was a way to machine a solid piece broadhead at a less expensive price.
Initial test results were good. I haven't got much feedback from guys outside of our family/friends.
We are going to beef up the tip a little bit. The tips get a little too thin after they are ground and sharpened. But the broadheads worked like, well...they worked like a broadhead should. Not like we are reinventing the wheel. Just offering a solid design in a single piece head.
I watched RMSGear employee and good buddy Brock kill a few deer. He used the 160gr glue on with a 125gr steel adapter.
Brock got a complete passthrough on this doe and she put down a nice 60 yard blood trail.
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The next morning I watched Brock put a 4 hour stalk on a muley that bedded in a fire weed patch with a doe. On a windless day, Brock crawled up to this guy and waited him out. His patience was impressive. Brock and his brothers kill some great muleys in this country.
In this picture you can see Brock in the weeds, the doe to his left, and the buck near his final resting place on the right.
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Another complete passthrough.
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There's two kinds of dirt on a broadhead. There's good dirt, and there's bad dirt. This was good dirt.
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The blood path was easy to follow.
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Brock and me with his buck.
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I killed a doe with the 200gr screw in. She did not go five yards from the shot.
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The big bucks barely eluded me this year, barely. But my cousin shot a tremendous deer with an adapted 160 glue-on.
Chad, my cousin, spotted this buck bedded in a cornfield. He snuck up to 15 yards and as he was wondering how long it would take the deer to stand up, a small buck came cruising by. The big buck stood up to chase him off, and Chad shot him at only 5 yards on the ground. The buck ran 40 yards.
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Chad's arrow hit the far leg bone. The broadhead put a hole in the bone and a long vertical split above and below the hole.
Chad brought my brother's girlfriend, Ashley out a few days later. Ashley filled her tag in the first 30 minutes. This was her first big game kill. She made a great 25 yard shot, and the doe only went 20 yards before dying. Ashley's hunting work ethic would rival most guys I know. She worked HARD this elk season. She got a few shots but the buck fever got the best of her on elk.
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Great season! I have a couple friends who have these heads, and to quote "these are the real deal!" Looking forward to seeing them first hand myself.
come on right bevel 250 screw in :pray:
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Originally posted by drewsbow:
come on right bevel 250 screw in :thumbsup:
Great looking head, way overkill for my little WTs but I got to have some. Along with 3blades I like that style of single bevel. Like to see a screw in so gonna hang tight till after the holidays.
Cool pics to BTW! :D
Love the pics.
I agree on the 3 to 1 ratio, I just used the glue on and a titanium adapter from abowyer and ended up with 190 grn. screw in
Well done guys, great head!
Looks like some good eating test subjects. I have some on order. Looking forward to giving them a try.
wow that is some great hunting going there. Super super bucks and off the ground to boot@@@!!!
Looks like a great option for the sb deal. Single machined piece is ideal, that's why I love my VPA's.
Shot the 2 blade VPA for a while, but will definitely be ordering a pack or two when my new bow comes in!
I just bought myself some of these. I'v never messed with single beveled broadheads, so I'll have to do some research on how to sharpen them.
I did shoot them today. Perfect arrow flight! I can't wait to take these to the woods. I have a doe and a turkey tag to fill yet. Also going to TX for a hog hunt in Jan. So hopefully I can add some pics in the next couple months.
Put some of these to the work sharp belt this weekend. I was amazed at how sharp they got and how easy. The knife making guys always use belts to do that and now I know why.
Looks like they get the job done!
Just got some 160grain heads in the mail along with Abowyers 35 grain titanium adapters! Cant wait to sharpen them up and chase after spring bear this weekend.
As far as gluing in the adapters, anybody using jb weld? Im not a fan of hot melt glue as it doesnt produce a strong bond
Scored earlier this month on a Kansas turkey, 200 gr. L bevel screw-in Cutthroat, Silvertip recurve, great combination. simply stated, a great broadhead.
Outstanding
Are there any plans to make 200 grain, or thereabouts screw ins with the same profile as the 160 glue ons?..
Got some of the 200 grain screw ins, they fly great, but are a bear to get out of a target block..
And I hafta admit, the idea of a broadhead that looks like an Eskilite on steroids has a lot of appeal for this kid. :cool:
I believe the boys at RMSG are testing prototypes right now that are 200 grain glue on and 250 grain screw in heads. Both are of the same profile as the 160 grain head just thicker blades.