I'm really stuck between these two heads mainly because of the possible blood trail problem of the grizzly and possible heavy bone penetration of the woodsman, so if you could give me more advice on these issues it would be greatly appreciated
If you literally mean HEAVY bone penetration, there is information on both of these heads judged by that standard in Dr. Ashby's well known study.
What about the blood trail of the grizzly
What about the blood trail of the grizzly
I feel your pain. I Too went back and forth. This season I shot the same woodsman at 3 deer. I had very little reaction from all 3 and very short, very easy to follow blood trails. I do like my woodsman.
I have no problem at all with the Grizzly blood trails or guys I know have had no problems ether. What problems have you had?
It that Grizzly the Instinct?
I started out on Zwickey, then I was given some Grizzlies to try out and I had bought some woodsmans about the same time. I liked them both but came to this same question on which one to use. I have them both on my poplar shafts, but my carbon I've stuck with Zwickey.
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450 grain arrow out of a 50# dalaa on a 3 yr old doe dressed 125 lbs. the broad head actually penetrated through the vertebra 3/16" on the opposing side. Not ideal but my son obviously got his deer. I've always been happy with woodsman results. Dino
If you're not using a back quiver, I'd go with the woodsman.
If you have the horsepower I'd go with the woodsman. I think it depends on your bow, draw weight, draw length, and game you hunt.
I really like woodsman broadheads. I may get kicked off the site for posting this... I shot a nice mule deer buck this year with a 43 lb recurve and an original woodsman broadhead, 398 grain total arrow weight at 28 yards. The arrow broke bone, cut off the top of his heart and dropped him in his tracks. You don't need "horse power" to use woodsmans, just accurate shots. They're easy to sharpen and fly like darts.
Elites or the originals, you can't go wrong with either one.
I too have shot woodsman for several years. It has been a time-tested broadhead giving awesome results. Having said that, I switched this year to the new Grizzly Instincts. I haven't shot an animal with one yet, but I definitely like the looks of Bill's Instinct. It is very easy to get hair raising sharp and a wicked looking piece of 3 bladed steel.
I've kind of changed my mind on broadheads over the years. I use to want a low profile two blade to penetrate the shoulder in case of a bad hit. Well I had a few of those and never found the deer and actually saw the same deer again and they were doing fine. It looked like I didn't get much penetration and seeing the deer again confirmed my eyes.
Now I have gone the other way wanting a big 4 blade or three blade head to leave a big whole on marginal shots the other way where if I hit them a little too far back. Right now I shoot the Palmer 4 blade Extreme Cut ,the Phantom 4 blade or Woodsman.
Here is the Grizzly Instinct that Kenny mentioned
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that's a nice looking head! I'm going to have to try those.
That is a serious head and solidly constructed. :notworthy:
I loved the woodsman heads until i got into hunting hogs and folded a couple of them up. i switched to the two blade grizzly 175 this year and feel a lot more comfortable about durability, but i really miss having that third blade. 9 inches of blade cutting, vs 6" increase your cutting surface by 1/3rd.... I'm going to give those "Instinct" blades Bill just posted a try next.