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Title: Your heart is set on a trophy but then you see
Post by: FerretWYO on October 12, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
This guy.  Do you take him?

 (http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rburtis1/56e9eec696ab007ea9a4105b70975bd4.jpg)
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Post by: YORNOC on October 12, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
yes
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Post by: centaur on October 12, 2014, 06:20:00 PM
Too ugly for me.   :eek:
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Post by: ChuckC on October 12, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
depends on the day.
ChuckC
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Post by: Kopper1013 on October 12, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Unique yup id take him, then again anything with trad equipment is a trophy I think but I'm also not a trophy Hunter just my opinion
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Post by: jkm97 on October 12, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
Let it fly
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Post by: RickE on October 12, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
Depends....on how many big ones I've missed lately, how close I am, how badly I want the meat, how easy of a shot he gives me.  Antlers don't taste very good.  About as good as tag soup!!!   :)
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Post by: shag08 on October 12, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
Absolutely...if I had more than one buck tag. If I only had one tag it would come down to a heat of the moment decision...which would probably be "pick a spot, come to anchor...bam." A trophy, just like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by: Bowitis on October 12, 2014, 06:52:00 PM
In a hart beat!
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Post by: Stickbow on October 12, 2014, 06:58:00 PM
Kind of a trophy in his own way.......
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Post by: Izzy on October 12, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
That may be an antlered doe with all that funkiness. I wouldn't shoot it if I were Randy Burtis cause Id know Id kill a bigger one in a day or two but me? I would.
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Post by: RickE on October 12, 2014, 07:07:00 PM
I was thinking the same thing.  An antlered doe.  Very cool if it is.
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Post by: Mr. fingers on October 12, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
Soytenly!
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Post by: Hermon on October 12, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
I would shoot.  But the question is.......

What did you do Randy?
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Post by: Wannabe1 on October 12, 2014, 07:14:00 PM
Yep, you can't eat horns! Besides, I haven't even gotten my first so, a trophy for me will be that first one.   :biglaugh:
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Post by: Kris on October 12, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
Depends on the shot, time remaining in your hunt and how far the carry/drag is?  Lots of things of course.  Always fun and gratifying to have everything go as planned i.e. short blood trail!

Kris
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Post by: ron w on October 12, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
I don't get that many chances if a shot presents it's self........I would be shooting!!
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Post by: kennyb on October 12, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
Doesn't look like an ethical shot to me. I would wait for a better opportunity. just my thoughts.

Kenny     :bigsmyl:
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Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on October 12, 2014, 07:46:00 PM
Yes
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Post by: on October 12, 2014, 07:53:00 PM
YES!

That would be a trophy to me! I like oddball stuff like that.

Bisch
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Post by: The Ole' Bowhunter on October 12, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
I'ed take the shot...after all, its vension we're after.
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Post by: nineworlds9 on October 12, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
Ahh the sound of the string...
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Post by: stykbow67 on October 12, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
That dude definitely needs to be removed from the gene pool!! Sneak on in there and drop the string on him Randy!!

Steve
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Post by: Mudd on October 12, 2014, 09:16:00 PM
Curious? Randy what do you hope to learn by asking?

Thanks!

God bless,Mudd
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Post by: dhermon85 on October 12, 2014, 09:24:00 PM
Definitely would shoot
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Post by: cmh on October 12, 2014, 09:43:00 PM
A trophy is feeding family and friends.... Yes I would  ;)
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Post by: Cavscout9753 on October 12, 2014, 10:13:00 PM
I'd take it. A bird in the hand..
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Post by: BDann on October 12, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
Shoot it!
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Post by: FerretWYO on October 12, 2014, 10:56:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by centaur:
Too ugly for me.    :eek:  
To funny pat.
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Post by: FerretWYO on October 12, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Izzy:
That may be an antlered doe with all that funkiness. I wouldn't shoot it if I were Randy Burtis cause Id know Id kill a bigger one in a day or two but me? I would.
You show unwarranted faith in me my friend.
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Post by: FerretWYO on October 12, 2014, 11:00:00 PM
So the story behind this stag buck is not as exciting as I wished. Some of you know I guide hunters from time time. I found this while guiding last week while guiding some hunters. For the record though. I would have dropped the string in a second of I could have.
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Post by: FerretWYO on October 12, 2014, 11:04:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Mudd:
Curious? Randy what do you hope to learn by asking?

Thanks!

God bless,Mudd
Not really looking for anything. Just sharing a fun outdoor experience buddy.
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Post by: kennym on October 12, 2014, 11:07:00 PM
Maybe..........
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Post by: wapiti792 on October 12, 2014, 11:12:00 PM
Yes...I love defects  :)   My two best bucks are seven pointers (eastern flatlander 7s). Each would have "scored" about 140 or so but both were mature wide-bodies that will forever be my faves! Pretty cool man!
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Post by: BigJim on October 13, 2014, 07:21:00 AM
I would be traveling to hunt those so No, I wouldn't shoot it. I eat a lot of wild game and the meat is always nice, but I don't have to kill something to have a good time.
If legal, I'd rather shoot a doe or enjoy watching and hoping for more opportunities.
At home I still choose the does over small bucks mostly...on an invite and they give the all clear..well it's there land and if they don't mind i'll shoot the best available..maybe.

I don't feel that killing an animal makes me a successful hunter. I had an opportunity at a very tasty looking elk calf on my very first elk hunt (unguided on public land). I chose not to take it but wouldn't fault those who would.

Why would anyone think that taking an animal with traditional gear is any tougher other than the range limits? even in my compound days, I never shot a deer past 20 yards.It's not that I wouldn't have shot one past 20 yards, I just never had one that didn't give me the 20 and in that I actually took home.

Personal reflections only. I would congratulate anyone who felt they were successful.
Bigjim
Title: Re: Your heart is set on a trophy but then you see
Post by: Mudd on October 13, 2014, 07:31:00 AM
Thanks Randy!

It has made for an interesting read for sure.

The question it brought to my mind was how close did you need to get in order to get the photo?

I admire the skill required to stalk any animal close enough to get pictures of them in their beds.

I also appreciate all the responses of those that took their time to post.(thanks folks)

God bless,Mudd
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Post by: Roger Norris on October 13, 2014, 07:42:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BigJim:
I would be traveling to hunt those so No, I wouldn't shoot it. I eat a lot of wild game and the meat is always nice, but I don't have to kill something to have a good time.
If legal, I'd rather shoot a doe or enjoy watching and hoping for more opportunities.
At home I still choose the does over small bucks mostly...on an invite and they give the all clear..well it's there land and if they don't mind i'll shoot the best available..maybe.

I don't feel that killing an animal makes me a successful hunter. I had an opportunity at a very tasty looking elk calf on my very first elk hunt (unguided on public land). I chose not to take it but wouldn't fault those who would.

Why would anyone think that taking an animal with traditional gear is any tougher other than the range limits? even in my compound days, I never shot a deer past 20 yards.It's not that I wouldn't have shot one past 20 yards, I just never had one that didn't give me the 20 and in that I actually took home.

Personal reflections only. I would congratulate anyone who felt they were successful.
Bigjim
Jim - I agree that hunting with traditional gear is NOT any more difficult than more modern gear. I'll even go a step further and saying many cases it's easier. My mule deer doe last year is a good example. On my knees, bow dang near horizontal, under some over hanging pine boughs...no way could that have worked with a compound.

So it isn't the gear...BUT don't forget many traditional guys saddle themselves with other challenge making choices. Hunting off the ground, not wearing camo, homemade arrows and other gear...many of these things enhance our enjoyment, and also make it a bit tougher. I do think that any legal and ethical kill with a traditional bow is a great trophy.

To answer the question...I probably wouldn't have shot that deer on day 1...but day 5? Yep.
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Post by: frassettor on October 13, 2014, 07:50:00 AM
Oh yeah!!!
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Post by: Mojostick on October 13, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
Define "trophy". Many hunters confuse the terms "mature" and "trophy". However, a "trophy buck" isn't necessarily a "mature buck" and a "mature buck" isn't necessarily a "trophy buck".
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Post by: Kopper1013 on October 13, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Maybe I'm just so knew to the traditional side (4years) but I find traditional archery to be much more difficult for several reasons.
First let me say I was an indoor competitive archer for 7+ years ranked 10th in nation in my division at 16years old and have hunted with compound for 12years before giving it up completely to hunt/shoot traditional equipment.

Hunting with a compound I found I never had to wait for the right time to draw, i could draw at any opportunity and hold said bow 2+ min until the shot materialized. While I was proficient to say the least out to 60+ yards I never shot a deer over 25 that being said I can say a deer has a much better chance of jumping my 161fps arrow out of my BW over the 257fps of my ex-compound. Meaning I never really waited for relaxed deer It could be stomping the ground starring at me and my arrow would be true to its mark.
I have found personally again that having draw stops, peep sights and sights to put you in proper alignment with given targets to be much much easyer then shooting a bow with non of that. Even with my experience competitively I found myself over drawing, lacking consistent anchor points and poor finger realese and it has taken a long time to get where I am now and some days I'm still not there (meaning where I'd like to be).
I think it's great that some find trad equipment to be easy, maybe some day I'll be there I think for most of us though it's the challenge that brought us in this direction and personally when I feel it to be the same as a compound was for me I will add another element to up my difficulty more. I have a tendency to equat higher difficulty with higher reward/satisfaction.
Please don't take this negatively it's not meant with any
Harsh under tones these are just MHO and ment no disregard to yours. These are just some of the reasons I FEEL trad to be more difficult. I welcome all ideas and feelings and would love discussing them under a new topic (cause I don't wanna hijack this one) I love this site and everything I have gained from it.

Your fellow traditionalist Greg
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 13, 2014, 11:21:00 AM
Yeah! disformed, non-typical racks do it for me. As we don't see them much around here. Thats exactly what got the buck I shot killed this year. Way bigger bucks lurking around my haunts but when I saw all the junk I instantaneously went into kill mode.

Very much a personal decision though.
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Post by: elkken on October 13, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
Glenn St Charles ... " I'm a trophy hunter, until something else comes along "
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Post by: Sam McMichael on October 13, 2014, 12:57:00 PM
Fire when ready, Smedley!
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Post by: The Vanilla Gorilla on October 13, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
Nah. Not what I'm looking for.
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Post by: joe ashton on October 13, 2014, 03:21:00 PM
Yes.  But then I have to admit that I can resist anything but temptation.
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Post by: Hopewell Tom on October 13, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
It sure is tough to make a decision at home for a "trophy" only and then be out and have something come along that puts the "resolve" to the test.
The key for me is not to be disappointed with the animal I kill. As in, "but I was going to wait for a big one"...
I've eaten the tag soup waiting too long and as we all know, that taste leaves something to be desired.
I like the "depends on the day" comment. First light of the first day a fella might make any sort of disappointing decisions. The no meat freezer, last day scenario is to be avoided at all costs, though.
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on October 13, 2014, 05:37:00 PM
It depends?  Given a clear shot at a comfortable distance, I would probably take it.

If I was on a hunt where I traveled to and was seeing deer all the time, I might not fill in order to continue hunting.
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Post by: LB243 on October 13, 2014, 05:46:00 PM
Wouldnt have to think twice!!! Yup
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Post by: BigJim on October 14, 2014, 07:21:00 AM
Many things come to mind when people consider taking one animal or another.

I am a traveling hunter by choice. I have great hunting here at home, but don't partake much in the deer until it cools here and by then, they can't be found.
Also too often given the choice of work on the weekends when there are few things to interrupt me or hunt, I unfortunately choose to work most of the time.
These reasons are part of why I enjoy traveling to hunt. Combine that and the opportunity to see things that you don't see everyday make trips extra special...oh yeah, I certainly don't mind getting my hands a little bloody too.

I am planning a moose hunt for 2016 and I am confident that I won't shoot anything that I wouldn't consider a "mountable" trophy. I love moose meat but the difference between taking a moose home and watching it leave is about $1200 + dollars in extra moose airfare and shipping. I already know that I will have a great time because I always do even if I don't kill something.

You want to avoid the bitter taste of tag soup?
Don't eat the dang thing!  The cost of the tag is the price you pay for a ticket to the show.
Just my observations.
BigJim
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Post by: shoot4fun on October 14, 2014, 08:45:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by RickE:
Depends....on how many big ones I've missed lately, how close I am, how badly I want the meat, how easy of a shot he gives me.  Antlers don't taste very good.  About as good as tag soup!!!    :)  
I agree 100 %
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Post by: IndianaBowman on October 14, 2014, 12:34:00 PM
Nope! I don't like the looks of him. If I want meat I'd prefer to shoot a young doe.
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Post by: legends1 on October 14, 2014, 12:45:00 PM
I would, I have a ton of nice typical bucks. I like the non-typical and find people comment more about them. A trophy is in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on October 15, 2014, 01:02:00 AM
That would not be a legal buck here.  If it was legal in a heart beat.
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Post by: huntnmuleys on October 15, 2014, 11:48:00 PM
since ive never seen a cactus buck, that would be a trophy to me.  id shoot it for sure, and it would end up on my wall.
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Post by: OBXarcher on October 16, 2014, 04:32:00 AM
Absolutely, love the weird racks.
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Post by: RC on October 16, 2014, 10:00:00 AM
The hunt is the trophy to me. I like to see the arrow fly. I would kill him. RC
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Post by: daveycrockett on October 16, 2014, 02:55:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Kopper1013:
Unique yup id take him, then again anything with trad equipment is a trophy I think but I'm also not a trophy Hunter just my opinion
My thoughts exactly!   :campfire:
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Post by: medic77 on October 16, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
Absolutely, I love odd deer like that
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Post by: maineac on October 16, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
If I had traveled for the hunt, I would probably pass. If it was my home covers, I would probably drop the string.  I hunt home mostly for meat, and in my home covers I have found if I pass, I don't see another deer.