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Title: BURN OUT
Post by: Florida bowhunter on September 25, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
any of you guys ever suffer from burn out or discouragement,  maybe from having a bad day shooting,  or from shooting every day or just not shooting to your expectations....ever just feel like quitting...if so what did you do to stay on track...
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Kopper1013 on September 25, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
We all get burned out, it depends on the extent of the burn though. I use to shot one of them wheel Bows 2-3hrs a night 5 days a week as an indoor competitor. After 5 years I couldn't stand looking at the damn thing any more. Haven't picked it up since I found traditional archery and love shooting again, but guess what...
Some days when I'm not shooting well and can't figure it out and my brother and father are slamming bullseye at 50 yards I think y am I doing this?
On those day I put the bow down walk away and come back a day or two later. Try and change it up, get some water balloons blow them up and let them blow around your yard, make some fun targets, just change what your doing, get out of your usual shooting habits.
If that doesn't work, ITS OK TO TAKE A BREAK. If you love the sport you will find your way back to it, don't burn yourself out it's not worth it just step back and smell the roses this is not suppose to be work it suppose to be something you look forward to doing. Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: monkeyball on September 25, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
I never feel like quitting,but surely have a bad day once and awhile.

I think we sometimes put to high of an expectation on ourselves and get a little discouraged. I try to shoot every day if possible, it is not for a real long period of time and I am a firm believer in just shooting one arrow per round. You concentrate more, get a little more exercise, and you learn to make that first shot count.

 I mix it up....hike the mountain, put some good miles in on the bike. They all help me keep a clear head.

                                                 Good Shooting,
                                                                 Craig
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: t2onboard on September 25, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Nope! And that includes any of the sport/racing we've done since 1970. Put one foot in front of the other and go out the door--hit the weights--hit the bricks--climb on the saddle--grab the paddle or whatever. My thought: if I'm not doing it someone else is. Smile. For archery, I may do something totally different like instead of walking the course, I may just shoot the practice range for two hours working on form. Some times I'll keep score; other times I won't. If it's nasty out, I'll ride the spin bike, lift weights, or do the elliptical. Stay with it because someone else is. Smile.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: ChuckC on September 25, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Not burn out, but after years and years of TP and it escalating to uncontrolable at the end, I nearly threw my bow and quit.  I did the next best thing.  I called Kevin and Sue and they sent me a left hand bow.

Life is good again.

ChuckC
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Gen273 on September 25, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
Yes, I think most of us have been there. Some times you just need to push through it and keep shooting. Other times, you get lay off for a few days and regroup. One thing for sure, is that you need to carefully evaluate your expectations, and make sure that they are reasonable. You may need to shoot and closer ranges until you get your form and comfort back.

Don't give up!
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Sam McMichael on September 25, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
I have never felt like quitting permanently, but I have taken some time off now and again. It is that way with any sport that requires great skill, we sometimes just lose it for a while. After a little time away, I always have come back to it again with renewed interest. Remember, it is a hobby and should be emotionally relaxing. When it gets tense, it is time to back off and do something else, like making up a new batch of arrows or replacing old and worn out gear.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: straight_arrow on September 25, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Its easy to quit. An easy way out.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: CoachBGriff on September 25, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
I never feel pressured to shoot, hunt, mess with arrows, read trad-gang, etc.  I do what sounds like fun - when it sounds fun.

I do get frustrated from time to time with my shooting, but when that happens, I walk away and come back when I want to!
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Jake Scott on September 25, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
We do this because IT'S FUN!!!!  It isn't a competition.  Do it because it gives you enjoyment, and of it isn't take a break.  I haven't gotten burned out yet.  It may happen one day but I doubt it.  Anyone that says they never have a bad day shooting is a liar.  It happens to everyone.  I enjoy the process.  I shoot a lot because I love to shoot.  I scout a lot because of love being in the woods.  I love sharpening broadheads, and I am damn near hairless to prove it.  There is a lot of work that goes into bowhunting.  That's part of the fun, for me.  

If it isn't fun take a break.  Don't put so much on yourself that you don't enjoy it.  I have been down that road and it isn't any FUN.

HAVE FUN!!!

Goof luck,

Jake
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: lilbobby on September 25, 2014, 09:51:00 PM
Everyone above has good advice, have FUN!
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: hitman on September 25, 2014, 09:53:00 PM
I experienced the burnout with the wheels but this traditional will accompany me till I'm not able to do it anymore. It is the only way for me.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: overbo on September 25, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
Now you know why the % of traditional archers are so low.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: ron w on September 25, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
How can I stop something I love to do.......Bad days, target panic, bum knees, not many deer....I have seen it all......stop, I don't think so!!
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Stump73 on September 25, 2014, 11:24:00 PM
I have bad days. But I cant quit if I wanted to. The addiction to shooting my biw has to much of ahold of me.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Florida bowhunter on September 26, 2014, 12:21:00 AM
Thank, s guy's for all the advice, I think sometimes I put such a high expectation on my shooting and when it doesn't happen I get aggravated, I try to consistently shoot a 2 to 3 inch group at 20 to 25 yards and i find myself scratching my head when it doesn't happen. ..
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Hud on September 26, 2014, 12:40:00 AM
There are a number of reason we become unhappy with shooting. Most of us can relate to the feeling.  Personally, I shoot better when I routinely practice form by shooting without a target. Shooting for form, should be fairly close and follow a routine you establish. Secondly, one day rest for any time you shoot more than 30 min. If you go to a gym and workout for 30 min. on upper body, or cardio, you probably want to switch to something else the next day. Unfortunately, you can't do that with shooting, because your using the same muscle groups. Finally, do not shoot if you are unhappy with your results. Practicing should be fun, relaxing and not a session of practicing bad habits. Practice when your interest is high, not low.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Hud on September 26, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
I would add, studies have shown, muscle memory is acquired by completing a movement correctly (or incorrectly) then sleeping on it for 8 hrs. This means, it is just as easy to learn bad habits as good ones and why bad habits are so hard to get rid of.  It requires a thorough understanding of the correct form, to overcome the bad habit. Target panic as an example, requires special dedication to proper practice without a target.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on September 26, 2014, 03:58:00 AM
I went out the next day any way. Eventually got over it by never giving up.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: overbo on September 26, 2014, 07:43:00 AM
If you don't know what you are doing wrong, it's time to get some coaching.

I shot for years w/out any coaching, until I ran into Mike Fedora and some of his old school field archer buddies. Man they torn my shooting form up and after that 2+hr beating. I came away a far better archer than ever. Opened my eyes.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: tarponnut on September 26, 2014, 07:57:00 AM
I'll quit when I stop breathing. I never get tired of hunting, shooting practice sometimes becomes a boring exercise in mediocrity(but that's mostly because I have such a limited bow range).
When I get shooting burnout, I hang up the bow for a few days, when I come back to it my accuracy usually is better. I tend to shoot better in the woods stump shooting and it's more fun.Mix it up, swap backyard practice for stump shooting or vice versa.
It's the same with Art for me, I don't paint because I want to, it's because I need to.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: 2bird on September 26, 2014, 09:14:00 AM
I got so burned out once I almost sold every bit of archery equipment I owned, I thought I had to shoot a certain way to be "Traditional", I was so tired of not being able to hit the broad side of a barn even if I was in the barn I was about to just hang it up for good. Thank God I finally found a new method of shooting because it gave me the confidence I needed and now just a few short years later I'm far beyond what I thought was possible without training wheels. No matter what or how you do anything you will feel run down from time to time but I suggest changing things up! If you not happy with your level of shooting try something different, don't let someone else's limitations be yours too.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: D.J. Carr on September 26, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
The best part about bad days is they make good days that much better.

I recently had 2 todays where I wasn't shooting well, was gonna take a few days off...but decided to shoot some blind bale and one thing led to another and all of a sudden I was on fire, I couldn't miss, standing sitting from my knees 10-30 yards.  One of the greatest feelings!

It only felt that great because I had a few bad days.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Charlie3 on September 26, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
Try keeping score on a NAA target when you shoot.

When I used to golf more often I would feel like I was having an AWFUL day through 9, then I would tally the score and realize I was only a few shots off my best score and re-focus for the back 9...sometimes you think you are doing worse than you really are.

If you are usually a 265 shooter and after an awful day you shoot 250 you will realize that it wasn't so bad and feel better about yourself.

As others have said, take a break. I usually stop shooting for about a month in the dead of the winter, this helps me re-focus too.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: 2bird on September 26, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Charlie makes a good point... For example at a 3D shoot last weekend I dropped the ball on 11 shots! 2 misses and nine 5's, I was starting to beat my self up but I ended the course with a 8.81 average over 48 targets, which is not that bad.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: CRS on September 26, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Florida bowhunter:
any of you guys ever suffer from burn out or discouragement,  maybe from having a bad day shooting,  or from shooting every day or just not shooting to your expectations....ever just feel like quitting...if so what did you do to stay on track...
Not from traditional archery/hunting.  Only the burn out from not having enough time to practice/hunt/mess around with traditional archery/hunting!   :mad:
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Florida bowhunter on September 26, 2014, 01:20:00 PM
I guess my biggest issue is trying to get the same accuracy,  as I did with my compound, I do know some guy's here at home that can shoot side by side with any compound shooter out to 40 yards, but they have been shooting a long time, I know that this will only come with practice and determination to succeed. .....thanks guys for all the upbuilding word as and advice much appreciated. ...
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Jay Bow on September 26, 2014, 02:55:00 PM
I agree with ron w archery has been the one constant in my life since I was a kid
( I'm now 62 ) It's the thing I always go to
when everything else is burning me out.
A bad day of shootin is better than a good day
working .
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Wallydog on September 26, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
If I get to watching too many "experts" shoot huge bucks every time they go out or listen to the wheelie guys too long I get a lil weird. Its purty hard to ignore the tripe about their new cant miss bow or zap-em-dead 4" expandable broadhead etc etc. As I aged I decided that 99% of that was sales pitches and some out-right dog faced lying. Its way more peaceful and enjoyable to take what the good Lord gave me and use it as best I can. Getting better (accuracy)ebbs and flows for me. Never been the guy who shoots little groups and it used to bug me some. Not anymore as I know my limitations (age and eyesight). Enjoy your trip FB!
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Thumper Dunker on September 26, 2014, 03:52:00 PM
I don't practice I go and play with my bows when not hunting. Practice is boring, playing with a bow is fun.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: flinthead on September 27, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
Between recurve, longbow, ILF, one competition compound[field] ,one hunting compound there are way too many ways to shoot than time. Tried sporting clays and a couple other sports and they were too expensive. Keepd sticking with archery. Was getting frustrated with Trad. shooting, then Ben Graham gave some great advice on anchors, holding , ect. and am back in love with Trad. shooting. Had read and heard advice before , but for some reason it clicked that day. Maybe the world is right[I am hard headed}.  Stumpin, target shooting, 3-d, clay targets, are all things to shoot with a stickbow. Mix it up some if it gets boring. Thanks, Roy
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: BOHO on September 27, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
I have quit a couple times. my problem started with being overbowed my whole trad archery life, over 15 years. now that I am shooting weights I can handle, its soooooo much better. I dont shoot year round. Id get burnt out for sure. I shoot from July/August to around March.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Archie on September 28, 2014, 12:29:00 AM
I just take a break and do something else for a day or a week or a month... I always come back to my trad bows though, because I like them!

Last week I was shooting terrible.  This week, wow, I'm a new man!  I don't live just to bowhunt or shoot my bow, as my aspirations are much higher than that.   But I enjoy shooting as a mental vacation from stress.  And I love to hunt with my trad bow, too.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: tradhunter on September 28, 2014, 04:16:00 PM
Take your bow for a walk....find an open field, and shoot some arrows as far as you can. Then just enjoy the beauty of the flight! I think that more than a few of us has faced the downers a time or two. Getting out for some flight shooting and stump shooting reminds me of the simplicity and joy of what we do.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Mr. fingers on September 28, 2014, 05:53:00 PM
Yes!!
Sometimes I get so frustrated to,the point I think about selling all my trad gear and going back to wheels.
What keeps me going is that exact thought . And I know I would not be happy going back. Trad has made bow hunting feel like it did  20 years ago.  When I came from shooting wheels I would average 2-3 deer a yr. I'm not there yet with trad gear and that's what fuels me. Also look at the success the fellow tradgangers have. I believe what one man can do another can do. I get the journey thing now.  It's not about the destination but journey .
I don't measure success by what's on my wall but by how much fun I have With anything if it's not fun what's the point!
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: joe skipp on September 28, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
I stop shooting the bow June 15th and start back up August. I find chasing bass around for 2 months is very relaxing and gives me a much needed break from shooting 10 months out of the year.

When I pick my bows back up in August I get a good feeling with renewed energy.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: GreyGoose on September 29, 2014, 09:00:00 AM
No, thank goodness, this isn't golf!
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: Diamond Paul on September 29, 2014, 09:35:00 AM
Yes, I've experienced burn out.  I've tried just about every bow out there, and every shooting style, and yet I never could feel confident enough to actually go hunting for anything other than the occassional rodent.  It's hard for me to accept the accuracy limitations of trad archery, honestly.  I was a 59x indoor shooter and a 550 field shooter with wheels; now, I can routinely miss a basketball from 25 yards.  It's the inconsistency that kills me.  I work at it and work at it, and most people who have seen me shoot say that I am pretty good; I have won some 3D shoots and such, though it has been a long time since I went to one.  Still, it is that inexplicable miss that kills my confidence.  I just get fed up with it.  I've started back shooting again.  Maybe I'll finally get the guts to go deer hunting this year, but I doubt it.  I think I love the romance of it much more than the reality of it.
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: beaunaro on September 29, 2014, 06:58:00 PM
I really don't think you will ever recover,  so the best thing to do is sell me all your bows....cheap.

LOL
Title: Re: BURN OUT
Post by: John3 on September 29, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
Put your bow away and don't think about it for a week or two... Rest...  It will come back!