Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Terry Green on September 19, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
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But TradGang is NOT going to put up with it.
Seems there are a lot of 'new members' that don't understand the format of this web site. AND, surprisingly, a couple of long time members.
"Mouthing off" will not be tolerated...PERIOD.
Making idiotic broadbrush statements will not be tolerated....PERIOD.
Labeling people or claiming they have an ego because of the bow weight they shoot will not be tolerated....PERIOD.
What most don't realize is that by making such statements, you are admitting your lack of knowledge and experience as a bowhunter, the lack of understanding the physical and mental make up of every individual, AND, the lack of reasons they choose their equipment.
If anyone sees this type of action, please click the mod alert icon at the bottom of the post in question. Thanks.
Now I feel better....
Lets all now go forth and enjoy the this fall's hunting season.
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Well spoken, these are the very reasons I quit posting on the other site or wall
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Amen!
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We are fortunate that Terry and crew stick to their guns on this stuff. I haven't posted elsewhere in a long long time for those reasons.
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:notworthy:
Thanks Terry.
Jake
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Thanks Terry!
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Been noticing quite a bit from the new guys! Sure glad hunting season is here.
Tracy
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I haven't noticed it but I sure saw it on sites I quit visiting! Maybe it takes some folks a while to break the habit?
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I quit posting to one other site for some of these very same reasons. Thanks to Terry & the moderators for keeping this site civilized and productive.
Ron
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I don't always drink beer, but when I do it's with my friends on TG! Under the watchful eye of the other TG!
CB
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Seems like some of the newer members think the format is like that "other site".
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Good Job! :deadhorse:
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Nuff said!!!!... The warning is out there.
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Keep it fun, keep it educational, keep it positive :thumbsup:
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sheew, thank god. thought this was going to be about thread titles and I was in the doghouse lol..
good on ya Terry!
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Originally posted by elkken:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Keep it fun, keep it educational, keep it positive :thumbsup:
I like it! :thumbsup:
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Amen to that brother! :thumbsup:
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Thanks Terry. You the other moderators and the vast knowledge of great people on this site makes it number 1 in my opinion. Also the etiquette of most members on here is impeccable. Glad you are keeping it that way. :clapper:
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Way to go terry I have never met a group of great trustworthy people like here on the gang and there's something to be said for that..but on the other hand there's always a LOUDMOUTH and someone with disrespect in the crowd
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Yep. I will bet the vast majority is behind you on this issue, Terry. It is important to keep Trad Gang a RESPECTFUL place to hang out and share knowledge.
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Well said Terry !!!!!
THANK YOU TERRY
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Terry, understood :thumbsup: Now how has your bear chasing been going? Looking forward to the reports when you and the "Dream Team" hits Kenny's. That's what Tradgang is all about!!!!
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Took about a 7 month break from the GANG while building the daughters home. Gotter done and while gearing up for another year in the deer woods logged back on to find the kind of junk Terry's talkin bout. T/G can pride itself on being a cut above and I find it's a wonderful place to bow hunt when not in a tree.Differences of opinion are great but when Pow Wow debates drag on I get a gut full. Glad to see this reconciled. Good huntin!
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Thanks Terry!! It says right above the post message, THINK BEFORE YOU POST, :readit:
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I like it! That's why this is such a beautiful place. Expect to be respected!
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Awesome thanks Terry
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Frankly it's still going on. Threads like the one currently running about the Uneducated CO, complete with a veiled threat of violence against the CO have no place here, in my opinion. This is the best site on the web. Terry's initial instincts on how to run it were correct. Lets keep it that way.
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I agree with Roger.
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Roger, I agree that threats are NOT appropriate.
However, we live in a time when the reality of these topics invade just about every aspect of our lives including our hunting.
It doesn't seem realistic to expect these topics to go unmentioned in our archery and hunting conversation.
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No problems with the original post of the contact with the CO. Some replies were attempts to offer resolution solutions to benefit future bowhunters in that area. And some are just plain criminal and do not promote good hunter/wildlife officer relations.
One describes of "take him (CO) out." That has no place on tradgang. Those types of posts or attitudes are not tradgang. Similar (i.e. beat chest aggressive) posts on other threads have been posted as well by the same member.
Mods need to make a move on that.
I hope that one (thread) gets pulled as well.
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I mostly agree Bud except that I don't think pulling the thread is the answer.
The forum owner will do as he pleases but it makes more sense to me to simply pull posts (or members) that break forum rules.
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I honestly think some of the newer (probably younger) members need an email that tells them "we don't talk like that here".....kinda the same talk I have with my sons when they come home from the field or a jobsite :bigsmyl:
These new members are valuable to our sport....it's a little bit of a generational thing as to how we verbalize. Nudging them along is better than fighting or banning them.
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Originally posted by mgf:
I mostly agree Bud except that I don't think pulling the thread is the answer.
The forum owner will do as he pleases but it makes more sense to me to simply pull posts (or members) that break forum rules.
Yep
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I struggle with it myself but it takes a measure of discipline (and knowing how) to address a topic that may hit very close to home with a well reasoned argument rather than a simple expression of frustration or anger.
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Is the thread gone?
That's disappointing. What broadhead are you using this year?
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We are all supposed to be grown up and able to read at least the rules of the site. We've probably all had a post pulled. I don't believe I've ever been guilty of bashing a fellow poster - more likely off-topic posts, but rules are rules.
I for one applaud the moderators for standing firm on the idea that this site is for sharing ideas - not flaming others. If the post is out of line it should come off and the poster should take that as constructive criticism and ask himself how he could have expressed his idea in a less combative way.
Keep it up Terry.
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Originally posted by Roger Norris:
I honestly think some of the newer (probably younger) members need an email that tells them "we don't talk like that here".....kinda the same talk I have with my sons when they come home from the field or a jobsite :bigsmyl:
These new members are valuable to our sport....it's a little bit of a generational thing as to how we verbalize. Nudging them along is better than fighting or banning them.
Well put Roger. Ignoring the behavior will only hurt the site. Banning the exact people who need the most help/guidance/mentoring doesn't help them either.
Far better to pull them up to the standards expected here than to allow ourselves to be reduced to what is common elsewhere.
Thom
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I admit I have made some dumb comments here but do try and keep in mind, just how different (better) this site is. The biggest problem (for me) is being accustomed to operating on other sites (all other?) and then coming here. I forget that I am not going to be attacked. I forget that I dont need to lash out. I forget ... my manors.
Which all sites were as good as this one. Maybe I would be better off just keeping here and not being negatively influenced by the others which seem to encourage the gutter mentality.
For my part, I will attempt to clear my head and think before posting here. I dont think I want to lose this opportunity.
Thanks Terry.
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Marshallrobinson, you, Sir are welcome at my fire anytime. It takes a man to admit when he is wrong and try to better himself.
I have long ago realized I don't miss anything that goes on at the other sites.
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Originally posted by 4runr:
Marshallrobinson, you, Sir are welcome at my fire anytime. It takes a man to admit when he is wrong and try to better himself.
I have long ago realized I don't miss anything that goes on at the other sites.
Another yep
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Originally posted by Marshallrobinson:
I admit I have made some dumb comments here but do try and keep in mind, just how different (better) this site is. The biggest problem (for me) is being accustomed to operating on other sites (all other?) and then coming here. I forget that I am not going to be attacked. I forget that I dont need to lash out. I forget ... my manors.
Which all sites were as good as this one. Maybe I would be better off just keeping here and not being negatively influenced by the others which seem to encourage the gutter mentality.
For my part, I will attempt to clear my head and think before posting here. I dont think I want to lose this opportunity.
Thanks Terry.
couldn't agree more. just a different mindset here. other hunting forums ya gotta fight fire with fire. we don't have fire here. hope it stays that way.
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There's another site..?..LOL
This is the only site....
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Roger,
I don't know how to post a quote, but you seem to believe there is a correlation with the negative comments being made and the age of the poster, suggesting that problem posters are younger guys. They may well be, but I think it's purely coincidence. While I have not seen the posts in question, I respectfully disagree with you on that point. A jerk is a jerk, doesn't matter their age. Speaking for myself and hopefully the other pups on who frequent the site, I am here for two reasons. First and foremost to LEARN. Second, because I like the fellowship and brotherhood that can be found here (see the recent thread about the bow that was given to Charlie Lamb for an outstanding example).
I know we live in a time where the twenty and thirty-something crowd is often brash, crass, and disrespectful. I can honestly say that I do not believe that to be the case here.
Like I said, I'm not sure which thread Terry was referring to. It seems like marshallrobinson feels he is guilty of some of the things Terry was quelling. He apologized, like a man. That is all anyone can ask, and for that he would be welcome at my campfire. We all screw up from time to time. I would venture to say it is not just an affliction of young guys (or gals).
Sorry for the long winded post, just wanted to make it clear that there is a real contingency of trad hunters that look to this site for advice and knowledge. Young folks who would NEVER be intentionally disrespectful to anyone. In many ways this site is and has been a mentor to me on my trad journey. I am aware of the existence of the other sites. I don't visit them because I am loyal to this one. I am loyal to Terry Green and Charlie Lamb and Joe Coots and the literally thousands of others that make Tradgang amazing. Thanks to everyone that makes it be what is, and seeks to keep it that way.
Shoot straight gang,
Jake
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Jake
I would say that Roger was not referring to age of life but age on this site.
Everyone needs to read the rules every once in a while!! :campfire:
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Valid point, sir. Hopefully Roger will comment.
Jake
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I don't think chronological age is of any consequence here on TG. I'm a 30 something and I've never seen it. If anything it might be the opposite. I almost feel bad by all the people willing to take me under their wing and teach me how to tiller a bow, build an arrow, twist a string, or invite me to a hunt. Very generous group as a whole, I'm thankful for the example and I do try to emulate it whenever I can.
Thom
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"There's another site..?..LOL"
"This is the only site."
What is puzzling to me, if you are loyal to TG, why do a lot of members post the same thread on LW? Never understood that.
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Originally posted by duncan idaho:
"There's another site..?..LOL"
"This is the only site."
What is puzzling to me, if you are loyal to TG, why do a lot of members post the same thread on LW? Never understood that.
Because we're in the US and freedom means just that. I visit one other trad site and a state specific general outdoors/hunting site. But TG gets my most loyal attention. Loyalty does not mean exclusivity. Mike also has a business to run.
Respectfully posted, BTW.
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Never questioned the issue of freedom in the US or if someone is operating a business. I was curious why members post the same topic on various forums,I assume for multiple responses but, it doesnt matter. Have safe season and good hunting.
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Hey Jake. I certainly wasn't condemning an age group, just making an observation.
My kids are 20, 23, and 25. Some of the things I have seen on here lately have the same vernacular and tone as when they are goofing around with their buddies. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Folks 1/2 my age speak differently than folks my age....and again, that isn't a problem.
I said, in parenthesis, "(probably younger)".... and believe me, young folks coming in to this sport are the most important thing there is. We owe it to them and to the sport to give them our opinions on ethics, our skill set on traditional archery and woodsmanship, and to be a positive example of how a traditional bowhunter should carry himself. I will be doing just that this afternoon, when I take a young 15 year old hunter out for his first deer hunt (Michigan Youth Hunt).
I also said this in the same post:
"These new members are valuable to our sport....it's a little bit of a generational thing as to how we verbalize. Nudging them along is better than fighting or banning them."
If you need to know what is "in my heart" so to speak...focus on that.
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All this was not in response to any individuals comments, posts or threads. Rather Terry was referring to the overrunning amount of off color comments being made throughout the forum lately.
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Rob, you got any of that beer left ?
CHuckC
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This why I love It here NO BS POLICY keep up Terry.
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Thanks, Terry, for the correction. I like this site more and more.
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Yup, I was guilty of baiting someone. Should have left my first post of explanation stand on its own merit but couldn't resist a more pointed comment in rebuttal when I should've walked away.
As my mother used to say 'you should know better than that'.
Sorry gentlemen.
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I try to play by the rules but now and then my mind takes my fingers hostage and I type something that is wrong or out of place. :thumbsup: :notworthy:
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A thread or two I've read recently makes me think ole TJ had snuck back into the campfire. The one reason I know he hasn't is he always started his posts with "Gentlemen..."
Bill
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Originally posted by Roger Norris:
We are fortunate that Terry and crew stick to their guns on this stuff. I haven't posted elsewhere in a long long time for those reasons.
Me too!!
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