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Title: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: skychief on September 13, 2014, 11:52:00 PM
Do any of you longbow shooters use a longbow without leather wrapped grips?

I ask because I am fairly new to using them and my only longbow has no wrap on the grip.

I don't think I have ever seen a longbow at the shoots I attend without a wrap.

Am I missing anything without the wrap (especially in terms of shootability or forgiveness).

Thanks for any thoughts on pros/cons of wrapping the grip with leather.

I am shooting a deflex/reflex, 60" Striker Stinger if that is useful for your reply.

Thanks, Skychief.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: Cavscout9753 on September 14, 2014, 12:17:00 AM
I don't have one and don't intend to get one. With a locator or shaped grip I don't find I need one like I would imagine if I shot a hill style, straighter grip. Certainly just a preference thing, no "one style fits all". Plus the wood grain on my DD Stik is too gorgeous to cover up!
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: skychief on September 14, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
Thanks CavScout.   Anybody else?
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: ChuckC on September 14, 2014, 09:34:00 AM
I have one I built that has no leather.  It has an indicator style grip and has been changed so much to tweak it that I would have gone thru a whole hide covering that thing.  A grip is not required, but it is indeed found on most, maybe because that is just the way things morphed, or maybe because the builders wanted to cover joints (if made from other than a stave).  A leather or rubber grip does feel better to me, but not necessarily THAT much better.  

Where it shines is, sometimes, my hand slides a bit on a non covered bow handle.
ChuckC
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: danshao on September 14, 2014, 09:35:00 AM
I'm wondering about the same thing too. Some people say they don't like the leather grip when it's all soaked up with sweat and stinks.. Not sure if it's true.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: JRY309 on September 14, 2014, 10:04:00 AM
Personal preference,you don't have to have a grip covering on a bow.For me I like to have a leather grip on my longbows.I like them better then those roll up rubber grips.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: bigbadjon on September 14, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
I took the leather off last time I had a proper longbow. A slick grip aids accuracy on any bow.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: grayfeather on September 14, 2014, 10:46:00 AM
I make a lot of leather ones for people .they help keep your hand in the same place everytime .I use 2-4 oz, oil tan leather, one piece stitched on the back  and beaver tail .the down side is that it makes the grip bigger .but it also reduces the hand shock you thought you did not have .best try it and see if you like it .I never had a problem them.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: shedhunta on September 14, 2014, 11:19:00 AM
Being a hunter I try and stay away from them.   Even though i like the feel I have taken a whiff of mine and it was not good.  I now have a stipple grip thunderhorn.  Scent free compromise and still gives me some texture.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: Wandering Archer on September 14, 2014, 11:41:00 AM
My first bow had a poorly done wrap that moved around a lot, so I took it off. I didn't notice any difference. I just aquired a nice Abbott longbow that has a really nice wrap.
I guess I'm trying to say that I don't have a preference, so I wouldn't worry about adding a wrap if it isn't bothering you.
On the bright side you get to see more of that pretty wood on your riser  :)
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: skychief on September 14, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by bigbadjon:
I took the leather off last time I had a proper longbow. A slick grip aids accuracy on any bow.
That was another thought from my end.   I would think that a slick grip might offset any torque placed upon the bow.

My shooting friends are mostly of the opinion that this is true with recurves.   They also believe that a longbow should be gripped tighter than a recurve.   This has made me wonder more if a leather or rubber wrapped grip on my longbow might foster even more accuracy than without.

I appreciate all your thoughts guys, Skychief.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: wisconsinteacher on September 14, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
I removed the factory grip on my Montana and like the feel a lot better.  I think it is just a personal thing.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: Joe2Crow on September 14, 2014, 02:00:00 PM
I have a robertson longbow that had a very worn leather grip on it that I took off but I didn't like it without the grip. I don't like slippery grips.  I put a rubber sure grip on it and I love it.  Liked it so much that I put one on my bw psav and I like it much better now too.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on September 14, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
I have one with out the leather grip. Only problem, my wedding ring causes me to fix up the finish once in a while.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: Bjorn on September 14, 2014, 06:45:00 PM
I have had them with and without-I like with. You can also use a piece of mountain bike innertube. Just wet it and it slips easily into place.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: McDave on September 14, 2014, 06:55:00 PM
None of my favorite longbows have a leather grip, including my Toelke Whip and my Toelke Lynx.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: on September 14, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
Most all I shoot is longbows (R/D), and I have never owned one with a wrapped grip. Just don't like the feel of it.

Bisch
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: JDBerry on September 15, 2014, 09:08:00 AM
Leather on a longbow is just part of its charm. ..James
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: Jack Hoyt 75 on September 15, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
It's all personal preference and how you shoot.  Many bowyers including Cari-bow, Centaur, Toelke, Hummingbird, Javaman offer longbows without leather.  I am sure many others do also.  If the bow has a larger riser and is not real skinny I prefer no leather wrap.  I do love the leather on a mint condition used JD Berry Tiapan I recently got!
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: D.J. Carr on September 15, 2014, 10:28:00 AM
No leather or rubber grip here.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: joe skipp on September 15, 2014, 10:29:00 AM
My Kempf longbow came w/o any type of leather wrap on the grip. I wanted a wrap that gave me a better grip, especially if my hand was sweaty.

My hunting buddy Bamboo who builds longbows, put this wrap on "JK" and I love it. "JK" w/o the wrap and 2 pics of the wrap.

 (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/PB190007.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/sf1oak/media/PB190007.jpg.html)


 (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/004_zps7bfa13b0.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/sf1oak/media/004_zps7bfa13b0.jpg.html)

 (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/003_zps64886278.jpg) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/sf1oak/media/003_zps64886278.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: Randy Koleno on September 16, 2014, 10:40:00 AM
I have longbows with leather, Beaver Tail, and naked wood grips. I don't really see an advantage, more of a personal preference thing.

That being said, I think Beaver Tail is my favorite.
Title: Re: Longbow without leather grip ???????
Post by: GreyGoose on September 16, 2014, 05:19:00 PM
I have two with, two without. Am comfortable with them all. Best NOT a poorly fitted one that moves around