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Title: Would you use JB Weld epoxy....?
Post by: PaulDeadringer29 on August 21, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
For glue on broad heads? I'm gonna use some glue on BH's this year and have some JB epoxy on hand and just wanna make sure it'll hold.
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Post by: TxAg on August 21, 2014, 09:43:00 PM
Heck yeah. Works like a champ.


Good luck ever getting them apart  :)
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Post by: Guss on August 21, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
That's what I use..works great..!
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Post by: Canadian Idle on August 21, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
That's all I use anymore...even on HIT inserts and footings on arrows.    :thumbsup:
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Post by: TradBrewSC on August 21, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
I use it for everything! Can't beat it.
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Post by: ron w on August 21, 2014, 10:05:00 PM
Good stuff......   :thumbsup:
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Post by: knobby on August 21, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
Sure would. I just used it to re-attach a loose limb tip on an old recurve. Just make sure the broadheads are spinning true as the glue dries. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Would you use JB Weld epoxy....?
Post by: PaulDeadringer29 on August 21, 2014, 10:19:00 PM
Great, I'm about to glue some up then. Broad head shooting tomorrow evening, hopefully.
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Post by: tom cunningham on August 22, 2014, 12:38:00 AM
That will work great...but if you don't want to use a two part try 3-m 5200....a permanent, below the waterline saltwater marine adhesive...plenty good.....I have seen guys rebuild aluminum boats with it....and they don't leak as much!
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on August 22, 2014, 01:35:00 AM
all the time.
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Post by: Roger Norris on August 22, 2014, 07:33:00 AM
I have used JB Weld for years for my permanent archery gluing...as in after I have my point weights dialed in. This year I notice it is less durable. A friend in the chemical business told me that you can expect many adhesives to change....some kind of EPA nonsense that made everyone change the formulation. As a long time JB Weld advocate....I'm looking for something else...   :mad:
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Post by: Frenchymanny on August 22, 2014, 07:48:00 AM
Good stuff but I like to use hot melt glue in case I need to make a change

F-Manny
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Post by: reddogge on August 22, 2014, 09:30:00 AM
Since the broadhead does it's work pushing in you don't even have to glue them, just push them on however I use hot melt so I can change or adjust them.
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Post by: Steve O on August 22, 2014, 10:17:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Roger Norris:
I have used JB Weld for years for my permanent archery gluing...as in after I have my point weights dialed in. This year I notice it is less durable. A friend in the chemical business told me that you can expect many adhesives to change....some kind of EPA nonsense that made everyone change the formulation. As a long time JB Weld advocate....I'm looking for something else...    :mad:  
That is NOT good news.
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Post by: dennis502 on August 22, 2014, 10:27:00 AM
QuoteI have used JB Weld for years for my permanent archery gluing...as in after I have my point weights dialed in. This year I notice it is less durable. A friend in the chemical business told me that you can expect many adhesives to change....some kind of EPA nonsense that made everyone change the formulation. As a long time JB Weld advocate....I'm looking for something else...  [Mad]
I hope it's just a coincidence, but a couple of weeks ago I had a broadhead pull out from a JB Welded adapter while removing from my target. First time I've ever had a problem in the 2 or so years that I've been using JB Weld....
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Post by: tecum-tha on August 22, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
Just use hot-melt. It is easy to remove or change angles on heads if necessary. It is also easier to align them. I see no advantage using a 2 part epoxy to glue on field points or broadheads.
Title: Re: Would you use JB Weld epoxy....?
Post by: PaulDeadringer29 on August 22, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
My only problem with hot melt, is I have had inserts pull out in targets and I have used several kinds of glue and installed them very meticulously. I imagine bh's would pull out even easier when removing from targets. And i have been known to tear a target open to get my inserts back, lol, so I know I would definitely go after a bh!
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Post by: Rob W. on August 22, 2014, 04:53:00 PM
I like the hot melt Braveheart sells. JB weld is to permanent for my tastes.
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Post by: Stone Knife on August 22, 2014, 05:44:00 PM
You could probably make a broadhead out of the stuff   ;)
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Post by: bigbadjon on August 22, 2014, 05:58:00 PM
For my epoxy needs I have switched exclusively to 24 hour set epoxy. The slow cure type is the strongest and the only way to guarantee good results. I just happen to be using Loc Tite brand but I assume any slow cure make would be good.
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Post by: WRV on August 23, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
Use it for everything!!!
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Post by: Cavscout9753 on August 23, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
Can you heat it to remove the head? With my woodies when I glue on a head sometimes I have to turn it here or there to get it on there balanced. Hot melt serves my needs pretty well for that purpose. I would think JB Weld would mean that at some point of the arrows life I would end up drilling and filing out the inside of heads to re-use it. Though, maybe you can just heat the weld up for a one-time remove.
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Post by: Grey Taylor on August 23, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
I don't use JB Weld but I do use epoxy for all my tip mounting.
I've seen lots of folks on here complain of various hot melts failing but I've never seen anyone mention an epoxy failure.
Epoxy is not permanent. Applying heat will break the bond just as it does with hot melt.
Epoxy does have some drawbacks...
It takes longer to cure than hot melt.
You can't heat the head, move it, and then re-melt the glue to re-glue it.
Personally, I'll live with those issues if I get a head that won't come off when I don't want it to come off.

Guy
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Post by: Jon Stewart on August 24, 2014, 07:42:00 AM
A lot of the hot melt/Ferr-L-tite failure is poor preparation.  You need to clean out the inside of the field point/broadhead.  There may be some oil residue left inside the field point and paint inside the broadheads.  I not only clean out the field point but I use a tap to scar the inside .

I won't say I have never had a point come off but the rarely do.

Before you use epoxy on metal, glue an insert into a scrap piece and wait a few days and try and get it out. Putting heat to aluminum will temper the metal and it can make it brittle.
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Post by: BEN on August 24, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
I've had good luck with the "impact resistant" gorilla glue super glue....until now.  I think it has something to do with either this batch of goldtip shafts, or the brass inserts.  These things keep pulling out?!?!
I use rubbing alcohol to prep both inside of shaft and insert surface....
So, I'm picked up some of the gorilla glue 2-part epoxy. i'll see how this stuff works on these...
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Post by: Ken Taylor on August 24, 2014, 05:30:00 PM
Good idea, but like others here, I'm not sure if I want my broadheads on so permanently.

A long time ago a broadhead I had used hot melt to attach came off in my bow quiver (and wouldn't you know it, it just happened to be the arrow I had just slipped out to shoot the big bear that was a VERY few yards in front of me, LOL!).

Since then, like Jon, I make sure that everything is super clean before attempting a bond with hot melt.

I start by scrubbing the inside of the point/broadhead well with a brush used for cleaning the inside of a gun barrel and acetone, then wipe completely clean (using more acetone with the piece of cloth if necessary).

Then, I also wipe the taper of the arrow lightly once with acetone.

I have never had a problem since.
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Post by: old_goat2 on August 25, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
I don't but you can. I do use it for footings and inserts.
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Post by: Mr.Chuck on August 25, 2014, 07:14:00 PM
No, never get them off again!
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Post by: medic77 on August 25, 2014, 08:09:00 PM
I just put some brass HIT inserts in some FMJ arrows after reading some recent threads about it.  Tough as nails
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Post by: buckster on August 26, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
Another happy user of JB Weld here for permanent solutions and hot glue for short term or tuning.