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Title: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: huntnmuleys on August 18, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
got a shot at a buck antelope today.  anyway, my blind has that shoot thru mesh stuff. ive never given it much thought, as my old arrows hit like normal through it. they were carbons with feathers that were just slightly offset.

today, my shot was with new woodies with a pretty aggressive helical.  now, ive shot these arrows a good bit and they fly great!  broadheads shoot like a dream. except for today.  the arrow had HORRIBLE flight.  looked like it was going half sideways.  of course it fell and I shot low of the buck, but im now kind of questioning my setup here.  

anyone else had these problems?
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: David Mitchell on August 18, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
You don't say what kind of head you are shooting but I missed a nice buck shooting through mesh like that--arrow wobbled like a wounded duck and went up and  over his back.  I had shot a 2 blade head and noted the narrow tight little slit my fletch had to pass through--two days later had a shot at the same distance and used a 3 blade head and got perfect flight and a very dead antelope.  I had reasoned that maybe the 2 blade head cutting just a slit caused the fletching to have to squeeze through and maybe deflect the arrow as it recovered.  The 3 blade head cut a nice open hole through which the feathers passed easily.  Don't know if that was the cause or not but the 3 blade definitely cut a nicer clearing for the feathers. The buck I missed was bigger!   :mad:
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: huntnmuleys on August 18, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
yeah I don't know. I was shooting three blade and three fletch but I don't align em.  maybe that's part of the equation?
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: Jake Scott on August 18, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
I've never trusted it.  I drop the mesh.

Jake
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: hvyhitter on August 18, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
Did you take a few practice shots through the mesh????????.........or a few shots after that one to verify that it is a mesh problem?????? Id want more data than just one shot under pressure to narrow down the problem...........
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: K.S.TRAPPER on August 18, 2014, 05:44:00 PM
Lots and lots of shots through the mesh over the years at turkey and deer. carbon, wood, 2 blade, 3 blade, 4 blade, helical and strait. No problems for us I never drop the netting and that's out of several different kinds of blinds.

I have a video of Guru shooting turkeys and deer with helical carbons and Woodsmans  through the netting of a double bull blind with a string tracker attached and no arrow wobble. We slowed it down frame for frame to check. Pretty cool video!

I always practice with my gear before I hunt too, like said might try a few more arrows before you blame the netting. IMHO

Tracy
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: on August 18, 2014, 05:54:00 PM
I have shot a ton of critters thru mesh, even using a string tracker. The only time I found shooting thru the mesh to be a problem is if your shot is at a real hard angle to the mesh. In that case I have found that the fletching will catch on the netting. It will also cut a nasty slash in the netting instead of a perfect broadhead shaped hole.

Bisch
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on August 18, 2014, 06:05:00 PM
I would not shoot a 2 blade thru netting. I also make sure the fletching is very smooth coming off the shaft. I know if the quill is not smooth it will likely catch on the netting.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: Sam McMichael on August 18, 2014, 06:12:00 PM
That is one of the reasons I prefer a brush blind.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: huntnmuleys on August 18, 2014, 06:20:00 PM
i have to admit I was kind of lacking on the practice part... kinda. ive shot plenty thru mesh without a problem, but I had my blinds out already when these woodies came in and I was dying to hunt with em.  they seemed to fly perfect here at my target and broadheads were the same, so I figured Id see the same out of a blind.  but, I haven't actually shot em thru mesh, and was kind of just asking what everyone else had experienced.

no worries, I got back out the carbon set-up that I know is ready to go and ill save the woodies for the rest of fall, and antelope after I get to shoot em some from the blind.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: Gordon Jabben on August 18, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
I practiced shooting though the netting with 2 blade broadheads on wood arrows and actually thought I shot better than without the netting although I don't see how that's possible.  Have taken a few turkeys without any problems.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: K.S.TRAPPER on August 18, 2014, 07:10:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bill Carlsen:
I would not shoot a 2 blade thru netting. I also make sure the fletching is very smooth coming off the shaft. I know if the quill is not smooth it will likely catch on the netting.
Never had any problems with 2 blades on carbon or wood thru the mesh. That would be Zwickey's, Magnus and Ace if you curious.

Tracy
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: ksbowman on August 18, 2014, 08:08:00 PM
Zwickeys and Switchblades thru mesh with no problem. Aluminum and helical fletch (left wing)
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: LBR on August 18, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
Never had a problem with the mesh.  I've even shot a squirrel with an Ace blunt through mesh.  Wood arrows, 5" shield, helical fletch.  Also shot a red fox at around 25 yds through the mesh.

Not trying to step on any toes, but more than likely it was user error.  A pluck or any other error might be modified going through mesh.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: K.S.TRAPPER on August 18, 2014, 08:21:00 PM
Things happen! Good luck  on the next antelope Brad hope you get another shot soon.

Hunting stories are in short supply these days on Tradgang looking forward to yours and many others as the elk hunters start coming home. Again good luck and shoot strait    :archer2:  

Tracy
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: Orion on August 18, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
I've shot lots of woodies and carbons through mesh.  No problems, except when my bow tip caught a bit of the blind.  In short, it wasn't the arrow's fault.  It was mine.  Are you sure you didn't hit the blind with a bow tip?
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: tracker12 on August 18, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
3 blade VPA with 5" feathers have always done well out of my Double bull shooting thru the mesh. While I was skepticl at first shooting thru it but no have plenty of confdence doing so.     A couple of spots I hunt the deer come very very close at times to the front f the blind.  I need the mesh.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: huntnmuleys on August 18, 2014, 08:59:00 PM
orion, I don't think I did but I don't know. it wasn't that I missed that got me.  if id just shot low id have thought nothing of it other than he was further than he looked.  this arrow just flew sooo bad.  but I am guessing it was something I did, just not sure what.

oh well, tomorrow I try again lol.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: LCH on August 18, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
I shoot through it all the time at turkeys never had a problem. I shoot 2 blade Simmons heads, but have practiced with field points no problem. LCH
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: habujohn on August 18, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
Good luck Brad and make sure to shoot a shot or two through that mesh to get the confidence up again.  Sure wish I was hunting with you.
John
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: skilonbw on August 19, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
One time when shooting out of a pop-p blind the front legs of my stool had sunk enough in the ground the broadhead caught the bottom of the opening fabric and flipped the arrow so the nock hit the turkey instead of the broadhead. Food for thought. I ended up finding out later with that blind a bow and a a stool I needed to practice to keep my body higher since the stool would sink into the ground a little from me sitting on it.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: Jack Skinner on August 19, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
I cant shoot my set up through mesh. Not sure but probably a combo of slow arrow (selfbow), and home made arrows. The transition from head to shaft is never going to be supper smooth with primitive arrows. I tried and by pulling the mesh very tight my flight was OK but any error or angle to the shot as stated above and flight was terrible. I thought I had it figured out at one point and tried shot on nice goat. You should have seen the look on his and my face when the arrow hit him flying sideways. It was like wacking him with a stick. Anyway no more mesh for me.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: riverrat 2 on August 19, 2014, 04:32:00 PM
Never had an issue with it myself. I'm certain you've checked,but just throwing it out there....
Make sure the screen is tight. If it is even loose a little,it will screw things up real good for you.  rat'
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: huntnmuleys on August 19, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
hey sitting in the blind today, I shot 3 arrows (back to the carbons I had practiced with out of the blind).  all three hit perfectly.  still though, im guessing yesterday I did something wrong as opposed to it being the arrows, but only god knows what...

no antelope shots today. they came in early and spooked. they were looking at something up the hill from me.  and I had to leave early, family in town visiting.
Title: Re: problems with shoot thru mesh, maybe hellical?
Post by: K.S.TRAPPER on August 19, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
Good luck Brad!!!

Hope you get a good one soon, Tradgang is short on hunting story's here anymore sure could use some.

Tracy