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Title: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: twitchstick on August 08, 2014, 01:04:00 AM
Well last night once again my truck got robbed! It was my own fault I left my one door unlocked. They really didn't get much. They got my Eblerly stock pack a first aid kit and a few odds and ends in my pack. I had taken most of the stuff out of the pack the night before after a day of scouting. Two years ago almost to the day I had my truck robbed just after loading my truck to go scouting for my Mt. goat hunt. I had only left my truck unattended for about 4 hours while I sleep. They got me good on that one, spotting scope, fly rods, binos for about $3000 worth of stuff.
   So tonight after working a 14 hour day I came home to some young elk back straps and some fresh pick corn. I set out on my deck and enjoyed I nice dinner and thought about the bottom feeders that have taken my stuff. See they don't really know me I guess. If they did they would have just come and asked me. I might I just have helped them get what they needed. I like to help people when I can. Last year I let two people shoot old bows of mine gave away a couple of dozen arrows and broad heads to people that could use them. I gave out 4 or 5 fishing rods and gear to kids. Any one that knows me knows I am a sucker to any newbe to the out doors. Now that pack was bought for penny's on the dollar when a business was filling chapter 11. The money is not necessarily the issue it's the thought. I guess all we can do is just take pity in a person like this because they will never know what its like to be dedicated to something long enough to earn satisfaction in life. They will never know what it's like to plow,plan and harvest good sweet corn. They will never know the feeling after shaving a peace of wood until it bends into a bow. They will probably never understand how long it can take to master the flight of arrow or understand Why I do the things I do. I just think it would sad to only take and never earn something. Sorry for the rant but I hope the Gang will understand.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: jbrogdon on August 08, 2014, 03:12:00 AM
No, actually, it wasn't your fault
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Al Kidner on August 08, 2014, 05:30:00 AM
Yep... I've been robbed twice now in as many months and I'm still boiling form it all.

I'm lucky though that they also don't know me as things would turn out rather badly for them if I did.

Don't change mate in being who you are as a person... Rather just shoulder it as another learning curve.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: ozy clint on August 08, 2014, 05:34:00 AM
there sure is some scum in this world. sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Stickbow on August 08, 2014, 06:38:00 AM
I just think it would sad to only take and never earn something.

I would add what it is like to give.

I like where you are coming from and completely agree. I am not sure I could be as clear headed as you so soon after. Good for you.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Longbow58 on August 08, 2014, 06:44:00 AM
Know how you feel. Left the back window down once when I was in a hurry after work for an evening hunt. Easy pickings I guess but at least I had what was with me. Really burns you up.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: RAU on August 08, 2014, 07:45:00 AM
Im sorry you lost your gear. They'll get theres
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: limbolt on August 08, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
Two kinds of people I have a hard time dealing with,liars and theives.Sorry that you have to go through this.   :nono:
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: onewhohasfun on August 08, 2014, 08:12:00 AM
You're a better man than I, no pity here. I know how I would like to deal with theives, and would do it, "without remorse".
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Ron Vought on August 08, 2014, 08:13:00 AM
I had a treestand stolen many years ago and felt the same way. I wasn't as upset about losing the treestand as I was about the act.

I actually talked to a company that is building outdoor GPS chips that can be put in things like tree stands and activated by a smart phone when the tree-stand moves +/-3 feet from its original location. I'm very interested in this technology only to deter and catch thieves.

Ron
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: 2bird on August 08, 2014, 08:43:00 AM
Locks just keep honest people honest, sad but true... If they really wanted to take something out of your truck a locked door wouldn't have stopped them. I despise thief's with a passion, we have had our vehicles broken into many times... My sister even had someone break into her car and seal her bible, yep they stole a bible, sure hope they read it... Besides archery and hunting I'm an avid trapper, I was attempting to set several leg hold (#5's) around our car when we were getting robbed frequently but my wife insisted I didn't, smart choice... Sorry about your loss, or more importantly the disrespect you feel when something is stole from you.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Slickhead on August 08, 2014, 09:06:00 AM
they will have to answer for it one day.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Burnsie on August 08, 2014, 09:24:00 AM
I typically don't leave tree stands in the woods, but the one time I figured I would take a chance on public land because I knew I was going to be back the next day.  Sure enough, went back to hunt - gone!  I knew better,  but thought there can't be a scum bag hiding around every tree, lesson learned.
Sorry for your loss,  I hate thiefs
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: The Night Stalker on August 08, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
Get you a nice laptop case and put a pet rattlesnake in it.  Leave your windows down so he does not get overheated.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Dorado on August 08, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
Doesn't really matter what you do. Scum will steal things just for the heck of it. Someone busted out my window for a quarter I had sitting in my console. That was literally all they took, a quarter.
I've been restoring a WWII Jeep. I dove it to town for a parade and afterwards stopped by a diner to get lunch. While I was in there a punk tried to steal the spare tire off the back. He didn't walk away from that or for quite a while afterwards. I broke both of his legs with the back of the axe I keep on my jeep.
Did I mention I hate thieves. I do. I really do. I'm a contractor by trade. Someone broke into my van and stole around $9000 worth of tools. So they not only took my tools but as they were specialty tools I needed, I lost the job as I couldn't complete it without them. Insurance wouldn't cover them so I couldn't do big jobs that pay to replace them. I had to restart my business from scratch. Took me 2 years to recover money, tools, and reputation.  
The guy that tried to steal the spare tire got my wrath from the guys that stole my tools. They were only a week apart. In hind sight I was probably a little harsh but Man I hate thieves.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: on August 08, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
I have had lots of hunting stuff stolen. I left my stuff lay once for a short time when I thought that I was having a heart attack. It was only an arrhythmia caused by Celebrex and it passed, so I went back for my stuff. My quiver and arrows remained but my longbow was gone. I had so many climber tree stands taken that I lock those in and only used bolt instead of the hand nuts. I had a guy come up a steep ravine on his hands and knees with a hack saw and wrenches. I had moved my tree stand the day before, he stood looking up at my former tree with tools in hand. The look of shock he had when he turned around and saw me twenty yards away was good. He ran away. A couple of weeks later he succeeded and cut it off the tree. I am a generous guy as well, but I am not very forgiving. It would be best if we never cross paths again.
  What gets me is these guys around here are not likely to take stuff out of cars, but if something is out in the woods it becomes fair game to them.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: frankwright on August 08, 2014, 03:07:00 PM
Unfortunately it is often a kid from the neighbor hood or a friend of that kid. They see an outdoors person and they see you bringing in guns, bows and packs and it gives them ideas.

There are thieves who just drive around and then target one neighborhood but usually it is someone living close by.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Tajue17 on August 08, 2014, 05:13:00 PM
if anyone wants to know about my ghetto 15 dollar alarm system that will work on tree stands, trucks, motorcycles and even in your house or garage just let me know and I'll explain what we did,, I was poor growing up in the projects of Boston and this is what we did in the city to not only avoid break-ins but its perfect for catching or finding out who's doing it with the help of witnesses.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on August 08, 2014, 05:48:00 PM
I work with enough heroin addicts to know if its not tied down, its gone.

We are talking everything even shoe strings while people sleep.......

I'm sorry about your loss. Even though you bought that back pack for pennies on the dollar, I can assure you it sold from them for far less than what you paid.

I think if anything is stolen that isn't food. Fingers then hands should get cut off as punishment. Then you can at least tell who is a  repeat offender. Once both hands are gone then it should be capital punishment since they can no longer contribute to society. (most of the time they never have or will anyhow).
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Izzy on August 08, 2014, 05:51:00 PM
The problem with forgiveness and leniency toward thieves is that any quarter given inspires them to delve further into the"Easy" life of a crook. A thief turns into  dealer into an armed robber into a murderer.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Wapiti Chaser on August 08, 2014, 07:18:00 PM
I can relate . One of my cameras was stolen last year. Most likely one of the neighbors on our land during gun season. Never really cared who gun hunted as long they don't bother me in bow season. This year it's getting posted. Don't really want to call the troopers if I see anyone around but just might.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Firstlight on August 08, 2014, 07:24:00 PM
Sorry to hear, always a bad experience.  

Not sure if this would help you but when I leave gear in my truck (in a carport) I set a radio controlled vibration sensor on top of my gear, which sets off an alarm when moved: an ear Piercing, 110dB

You could set up the whole deal for $100.00.

sensor and alarm can be up to 100 feet apart...


sensor:    http://tinyurl.com/kjjq9nm  

audio siren:    http://tinyurl.com/o5cztzx

Or spend more and get the control panel, etc and add as many sensors as you want for the yard, house, etc.

I have one 3 yrs now and am pleased with it...

http://www.skylinkhome.com/usa/alarmsystem_overview.html
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Matty on August 08, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
I'm with Charlie and Dorado, great story by the way about the axe handle. And I bet if there were witnesses they said "good for ya!" And Charlie I couldn't agree more. Let's start with the thumbs. If I ever coughs someone breaking into my car, I'd probably be having to fill out some legal papers the next day. Thievery gets worse as the economy goes down so people can sell your stuff for whatever they can...
Either way. Twitchstick, you are a good man for having the thoughts that you do, and it's a shame that you're stuff was stolen   :mad:
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: LB_hntr on August 08, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
That sucks bad.
I'd load the truck up to the windows with gear and bait them in. Then have a couple 330 conibear traps hidden waiting for them to step on near the truck. Once caught I'd probably spend a half hour or so shooting them with my kids paint ball gun before calling the cops...lol.  Not saying this is right and that I wouldn't get in trouble but it sure sounds good.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: RonD on August 08, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
When incarcerated these people continue to steal from other prisoners. One of the things you have to watch out for is that some thieves see hunting season as an opportunity to steal by riding the roads of WMAs and NWRs looking for parked vehicles. They can break a vehicles window without you ever hearing them. In some cases they are like tradesman and have the necessary tools to engage in commit a theft. It is a business and very lucrative. Be sure to have insurance to cover the loss.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Medicare Bhtr on August 08, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
Over the years I have had bows, tackle box full of arrows, etc,feeder, camera and over one dozen stands stolen.
Just returned from vacation and my Jon boat and trailer was gone!
Don't believe you can stop thievery.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: RonD on August 08, 2014, 10:52:00 PM
Thomas it is very difficult to stop thieves when people and business's (pawn shops) are willing to buy stolen goods from them, in some cases knowing the merchandise is stolen. The best thing you can do is find a way to mark you equipment that you can identify and is not apparent to the thief, take a photograph of the bow or whatever equipment you mark to give to the police. When thieves strike, one of the first places the police check are the pawn shops. Most thieves are to smart to sell the equipment locally, but not smart enough to go to the closest town and pawn shop. However, some of these guys and gals are professional thieves and see what they do as a job and develop the skills that make them successful. Theft is one crime that is somewhat impossible to solve, since the people who buy their ill gotten gains know full well that the objects were stolen.
Once upon a time when neighbors were neighbors and looked after one another and their property thieves found it difficult to steal and more thieves were caught. Today things have changed and such vigilance is no longer there.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Bowwild on August 09, 2014, 08:54:00 AM
They've taken from me:

1 Motorcycle (wildlife officer's son stole it)
1 Shed full of my kid's toys (employees stole)
1 Ladder tree stand (???)

Oh, I almost forgot....my country (Liars).
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Rob W. on August 09, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
I'm with Charlie. I also think every amputation should be done publicly and broadcast on television.

Society has become too soft and PC about things like this. About everything.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Roadkill on August 09, 2014, 11:05:00 AM
Liars are thieves, they steal truth.  We have jails full of these criminals and most could not understand many on this site,: they are lazy and we are not.  We work at our sport, we work for our gear and we share.  We are givers and thieves, by definition are takers.  Sorry for your loss, and I pray that I get your level of forgiveness, because I would not be so graceful as you
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: olddogrib on August 09, 2014, 02:07:00 PM
Sounds like somebody may be scoping you out.  How about a 330 conibear on the front seat, covered with a bandana and a $20 bill wired to the trigger...dang carefully, get a "setter" these things maim. If you're not familiar with traps get a 3" DCS leghold...just slightly less spectacular results and way easier to set. If you want to cable it to the seat it'd probably hold them while you showered, shaved, dressed and got your baseball bat.  The neighborhood won't appreciate the screaming though,  and they might take care of it for you.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: Tajue17 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
I bet if we had prisons here like the black dolphin prison in Russia things would be a lot different,,,,, last I heard its 85% re-offenders committing the crimes...  I guess tree stand thieves are a different breed they simply need to be hurt or made known..

all you guys who use cameras the correct placement for your camera is across from your stand and at least 10' up a tree,, aim that thing back towards your stand and down towards the base of your ladder so when your in the stand it doesn't keep taking pics of you,,,,, your watching game movement and who climbs up and then down with your stand..
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: stujay on August 09, 2014, 03:48:00 PM
Yep, no rambling to me...your thoughts make perfect sense.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: TGbow on August 09, 2014, 04:18:00 PM
It's a shame that when they do catch the thugs they just slap em on the wrist.

I have a good suggestion how we should handle thieves...if our justice system still had common sense as a guideline.
My suggestion is would probably be considered harsh
today.
Title: Re: How to deal with a thief!
Post by: steadman on August 09, 2014, 05:38:00 PM
Sorry to hear that Jimmy! Let me know if you need anything! The good news is next weekend is the opener.   :)