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Title: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 06, 2014, 07:15:00 PM
Bud B's thread on the St. Jude Auction build along inspired me to make my own. So I followed his great directions and built one of my own. It's also my first leather project other than little things like grips. I'm quite happy with the way it turned out. I still need to color it and seal it. I was thinking of just giving it a good coat of SnoSeal, I've used it on some boots and like the way they turned out. I need to reapply it to my boots anyways. I'll just buy a bigger can.

Here are some pictures of my quiver.
  (http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/Dorado1873/Bow/IMG_1244_zps4e993cea.jpg)
  (http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/Dorado1873/Bow/IMG_1242_zps1ffff7ab.jpg)
  (http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/Dorado1873/Bow/IMG_1243_zps7d70617e.jpg)

My arrows are a bit long but that's alright. I'll get used to it or eventually get shorter ones.

So, What do y'all think?    

I know I probably should have dyed it before I punched out the holes but I didn't have a good color available. I'm hoping the SnoSeal will give it a good color. I'll coat it inside and out.
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: fmscan on August 06, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
For a first that is darn good, once you darken it you will be happy  with it...I have a feelin this will not be your last...
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Post by: slowbowjoe on August 06, 2014, 07:21:00 PM
I think it looks just fine, will be even better, cosmetically, with the SnoSeal. Should fit nicely also, with the strap placement.
How long is it?
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 06, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by slowbowjoe:
I think it looks just fine, will be even better, cosmetically, with the SnoSeal. Should fit nicely also, with the strap placement.
How long is it?
Inside it's 22" on the dot! I cut it to 24x19" and figured I'd just roll the top more or less to make it fit. Turns out that gave me exactly 22".
I did make a rather funny mistake. I punched 35 holes on the bottom of the body. I punched 34 holes on the bottom piece. So I ended up using one hole twice. Can't really tell though, you'd have to be really close and nit picky to tell. It does bug me a little though. lol
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Post by: The Whittler on August 06, 2014, 07:44:00 PM
Great looking, congrats.
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Post by: RIVERWOLF on August 06, 2014, 07:47:00 PM
.........Looks great & functional  to me .
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Post by: Green on August 06, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
Very well done.      :thumbsup:    

That quiver will serve you well for a whole lot of years. Pitch Blend Oil available from Kustom King works well, and will give that leather a great color.
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 06, 2014, 08:18:00 PM
I'm heading out tomorrow to look for SnoSeal, Pitch Blend, or something I can use. Hopefully I wont have to order it again. Although, I can get a 7oz can of SnoSeal for $10 shipped.
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Post by: far rider on August 06, 2014, 09:02:00 PM
Man! I like it!
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Post by: Bud B. on August 06, 2014, 09:40:00 PM
Pure Olive Oil from the dollar store will work with a sno-seal final covering or two. Looking mighty good!

Glad to see the build along paying off for some fellow tradgangers  ;)
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Post by: MR BILL SHORTY on August 06, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :archer:
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Post by: RAU on August 06, 2014, 09:51:00 PM
It's a beauty! I made one similar but a lot rougher looking with the hide from my first traditional killed deer. I kept the hair on, on the inside of the quiver to quiet arrows and it works well
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Post by: limbolt on August 06, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
Fine job!!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: locohunter on August 06, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
love it.  gonna copy that.
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 06, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bud B.:
Pure Olive Oil from the dollar store will work with a sno-seal final covering or two. Looking mighty good!

Glad to see the build along paying off for some fellow tradgangers   ;)  
How do I use Olive oil? Just rub it in until it won't take anymore?
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Post by: Bud B. on August 06, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Noooo.    :scared:    :eek:    Get too much and you'll have it transfer back to your clothes. Maybe 3-4 coats with a cheap paint brush. Set in direct sunlight to let it soak in. Work the leather between each coat, gradually getting more flexing in.

Were you going to try the wet forming first?
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 06, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
Better to use several lite coats than one heavy one huh? Thanks for the heads up. Like I said this is my first leather project. I didn't know if it was like SnoSeal and you just warm the leather, apply until it won't take any more then wipe off the excess. Any other tips I should know about before I make a mess?
What does leather look like with olive oil treatment?

Wet forming?? Do I need to wet form this? I thought that the breaking in process would form it.
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Bud B. on August 06, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
From the build along, page 4:

QuoteOriginally posted by Bud B.:
Forgot to cover the treating...sorry.


Treating the leather:

If the leather is "green" (untreated) vegetable tanned leather, then I like to wet form the quiver before adding any oils.

Wet forming is just what it sounds like. Wet the quiver, not a dripping soak, or a light rub of a damp cloth, but wet it so it's pliable. Wear it when pliable to get the shape you want and use your hands if necessary to form it to your needs. Be careful not to crease the sides where the body begins to collapse, but rather allow the body to collapse with a nice rolled over transition from front to back.

Let dry completely.

When dry, treat it with your favorite leather treatment

Mink Oil paste
Montana Pitch Blend
Neetsfoot oil
Fiebing's Aussie Conditioner with bee's wax (what I use mostly)
Pure Olive Oil

Basically anything that does not have petroleum distillates in it, such as Neetsfoot Compound.

Treat it and flex it. Let the treatment soak in.
Repeat/treat/flex until the desired look/feel is reached. The more treatment you put on it, the darker the leather will get. You can do too much. If you do too much, the treatment will transfer to your clothing easily.

You can also treat after cutting out your leather parts but prior to punching any holes on your leather. Then after you get the desired soak of treatment, punch the holes and assemble. Treating with punched holes can allow the treatment to soak into the holes more so than the leather surface of the body. It can look splotchy.

I use a cheap paint brush to apply the oil/treatment. Sometimes I use my bare hands.

This is where my wife gets upset occasionally. The kitchen table gets oiled alot. Use old towels as a work surface, if possible, on top of your workbench, countertop, table. Keep the wife happy.
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 06, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Completely forgot about that. Duh! Sometimes my stupid switch gets stuck in the on position. lol
Thanks! I'll do that tomorrow. I'll try oiling some scrap pieces before I do the actual quiver as well.
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Post by: Azwatasha on August 07, 2014, 12:14:00 AM
:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jon Kaw on August 07, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
That's awesome!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 07, 2014, 01:59:00 PM
I've got it wet formed now. Holds my arrows nicely, I can even bend down to pick something off the ground without my arrows falling out. I formed it with the mouth open as wide as I could get it. I figure it'd help getting arrows in and out. I'm still waiting on it to dry completely before I go oiling it. I tried some Extra Virgin olive oil on a scrap piece and liked the color, smelled tasty too. lol. That won't attract mice or insects will it? I'll be storing it off a peg inside my house.

I've had to order some SnoSeal, the only guy that carries it is out and won't resupply until the end of summer. But it'll be in Tuesday and I'm not in a big rush for it. I'll just play with my quiver in the mean time.
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Post by: Triphammer on August 07, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
Great looking quiver!! And a first project, too. I'm impressed. Neetsfoot oil will also give a good finish probably a little darker than olive oil.
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 07, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Triphammer:
Great looking quiver!! And a first project, too. I'm impressed. Neetsfoot oil will also give a good finish probably a little darker than olive oil.
Thanks! I'm proud it came out as well as it did. Bud's Build Along was the single biggest help. I had plans for a similar one but it was just a picture of the leather cut out and some very vague instructions. Little else. Bud really enlightened me on a lot here.
When I add the SnoSeal it'll get dark. I'm thinking about either just doing a light coat of olive oil to replenish the oils in the leather then waiting on my SnoSeal to come in, or just wait for the SnoSeal to come in and see how the leather looks raw with SnoSeal. I don't want it to get too dark.
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Post by: Bladepeek on August 07, 2014, 05:41:00 PM
I would assume (yeah, I know I can get in trouble doing that) you still have some scraps left. I'd play around with them trying various treatments and see what color you like best. The leather will lighten up slightly as the oil/wax soaks in and dries on the surface. Heat from a hair dryer along with the Sno Seal will darken it quite a bit more than just the Sno Seal.
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Post by: Bud B. on August 07, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
Post up some pics of the progress    :wavey:
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Post by: Mudd on August 08, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
:archer:
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 08, 2014, 10:36:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bud B.:
Post up some pics of the progress     :wavey:  
I will! I'm just waiting on the SnoSeal. Got a message from UPS saying it will be here Thursday. Funny, when I ordered it they said Tuesday. lol Oh well.
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Post by: Dorado on August 08, 2014, 10:41:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Mudd:
 :archer:  
Thanks Mudd. I'm just glad that I can finally stop using that junky hip quiver I've been using.
But I discovered something. I'm already planning my next one. lol. I think next time I'll make it a little deeper and do a rough out quiver. Gives a nice texture to the leather and with dubbing it with SnoSeal I can get a nice flat sheen while still being water resistant.
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Post by: Bowitis on August 09, 2014, 01:01:00 AM
Very nice!
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on August 09, 2014, 01:23:00 AM
Looks real good.
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Post by: Gordon Jabben on August 09, 2014, 06:33:00 AM
Nice!!!
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Post by: Stalker58 on August 09, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
Looks good.
Good job, well done.
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Post by: Dorado on August 12, 2014, 03:03:00 PM
I finally had time to treat my quiver to some olive oil and SnoSeal. I tried to get a mottled look to it. Normally I'm very OCD about everything being even but thought that if I hunt with it even would stand out. So I tried to mottle the oil by putting it on thicker in someplaces than others. I kinda like the look of it. What do Y'all think??
 (http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/Dorado1873/Bow/IMG_1249_zpsab8ffb32.jpg)
I just finished applying SnoSeal to it so it's a bit shiny at the moment. I'm about to go put it out in my truck to bake a little and let the SnoSeal soak in a bit more. I coated it inside and out, all the laces and my little base insert. So, If it does get wet it should be very protected.
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Post by: Bud B. on August 12, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Green on August 12, 2014, 04:53:00 PM
I like the Buckskin color contrast that the Olive Oil gave the body and lacing.  Nice job!
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Post by: Stump Buster on August 12, 2014, 05:04:00 PM
I think that looks fantsatic! Great Job and thanks for allowing us to tag along!
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Post by: brianbfree on August 12, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
It looks great!
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Post by: Brian Halbleib on August 13, 2014, 08:36:00 AM
Excellent work, looks great!
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Post by: Bladepeek on August 24, 2014, 08:28:00 PM
Real nice job!

Bet it won't be your last one, though    :)    

Somebody is going to want to buy that one off you. You will think of a couple of things you want to do a little different and away it will go and a new one will be started.

Don't ask how I know that. Just call it a gut feel.
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Post by: ny state land on August 24, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
That's an awesome looking job! Where did you purchase the leather?
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Post by: J. Holden on August 24, 2014, 09:20:00 PM
Looks like you did a great job!  How does feel in the woods?

-Jeremy  :coffee:
Title: Re: Well, I made my first quiver.
Post by: Dorado on August 25, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bladepeek:
Real nice job!

Bet it won't be your last one, though     :)    

Somebody is going to want to buy that one off you. You will think of a couple of things you want to do a little different and away it will go and a new one will be started.

Don't ask how I know that. Just call it a gut feel.
I've already gotten an offer and a request to make another one. And yeah I'm already thinking of different things for the next one. Maybe doing a rough out quiver.
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Post by: Dorado on August 25, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by ny state land:
That's an awesome looking job! Where did you purchase the leather?
The main leather came from Tandy's, they had a sale on single shoulder, I got it for $30. I needed some tools and lacing which I bought at Springfield leather. All in all I have about $50 in it and I still have a lot of leather left over. I'm thinking of making me an arm guard.
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Post by: Dorado on August 25, 2014, 11:21:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by J. Holden:
Looks like you did a great job!  How does feel in the woods?

-Jeremy   :coffee:  
I haven't had a chance to take it in the woods yet, but around the yard practicing it feels great. Although I'm going to have to wait until next year before I get to take it hunting. Hopefully.  My arrows are a bit on the long side. I'm using full length GT Trads so I have to grab the arrows by the shaft below my feathers when I draw them, but it works good.

I'm very happy with it so far. It's taking a while to break in but I expected as much with this stiff leather. I keep forgetting to get me a piece of carpet for the bottom. Every time I drop an arrow in I get a nice THUD.
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Post by: mcgroundstalker on August 25, 2014, 04:15:00 PM
Great Job On That Quiver! Try an old mouse pad for the inside/bottom... Should quiet things down a lot...

... mike ...  :archer2:  ...
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Post by: Wannabe1 on August 25, 2014, 05:53:00 PM
Great job for a first quiver!   :thumbsup: