Here is a video I just made about how to make the best lineman belts and tether systems for tree stand hunters. I show my favorite set up with a ascender unit, prussic knots, all the components, etc.
This stuff is cheaper than the store bought models and so much better. Ultra light, affordable, designed for climbers, tough as nails, doesn't hold water and will last a life time.
http://tbwpodcast.com/video-28-making-your-own-lineman-belts-and-tethers/
Thanks need to make a double safety life line for my grandson and my son-in-law, going to check out our local mountain climbing store.
definitely going to watch this later this weekend. Thank you for posting. I enjoy your videos.
Good stuff! I good friend of mine got me thinking about this kind of stuff several years ago. He is a vertical caver and was questioning my harness and rope setup for hunting. He was not very impressed with it since it is not tested to the standards that climbing equipment is tested to.
Jason, where do you get your climbing supplies - rope, ascender, caribener...etc
QuoteOriginally posted by LB_hntr:
... and will last a life time.
http://tbwpodcast.com/video-28-making-your-own-lineman-belts-and-tethers/
Yeah, Jason, but YOUR lifetime is a bit longer than some of us! :saywhat:
As always, excellent tutorial and step-by-step instructions.
Only thing is I LIKE a softer climbin belt that folds up in the fanny section of my SOP but, that said, your arrangement is still best set up I've seen...and yeah, that soft 'stuff' does fray and "pull" like a gal's panty hose on a woodland hike... quite easily --even on oak bark or pine!
Excellent. Your excitement to educate is really great. Actually- I REALLY think you are on too something to assist the kids. Wish I had thought of that when mine were young- they would have felt safer too!
QuoteOriginally posted by Burnsie:
Jason, where do you get your climbing supplies - rope, ascender, caribener...etc
The ascenders I just Google and look for the best price. All the ropes and biners I buy from rei online. Prices are good, shipping fast, and good variety so you can get everything at once (except they don't carry the ropeman ascender).
QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
Excellent. Your excitement to educate is really great. Actually- I REALLY think you are on too something to assist the kids. Wish I had thought of that when mine were young- they would have felt safer too!
That was my whole idea for the tether SRT up. I didn't want my kids to take their hands off the sticks to constantly adjust the prussic on the tether. With this set up all they have to do is climb and I handle the slack each way.
And with how cheap they are to build those that want to use it like a regular tether can make a bunch for different stands and save a ton of money and have a better system.
Great video, Jason!
Jason- I am completely portable, so every set up is up and down. Took my kids that way too. But I can see where it would have been great to drop a "tether" and have them hook on then climb up. Would have really been safe- and they would have felt far more secure. They were always a little frightened. Good info and just a fun presentation- you are a kick!
Dan in KS
Very good stuff Sir! Thank you!
Guys,please take my word for it and use locking caribeaners only, not the wire gate ones.
I cut trees and any arborist site will tell you
nonlocking beaners can be hazardous.
I've experienced it personally and hate for someone to get hurt.
My two cents.. No argument here, be warned.
Lou
Good video!
Lou
Jason,
I really liked your presentation. One other climbing gadget you might consider on your life line instead of the Prussic knot is the GriGri2 self belaying devise from Petzl. It allows you to ascend and descend with just one hand and attaches to the back of your harness.
Admittedly a little more expensive about $70 when you find them on sale...but if you are just hanging from a tree and unable to get back to your stand, you can easily let yourself down to the ground. The prussic knot is very hard to move if hanging under tension. Just another idea...tippit
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Great information...
Please tell us what you're using for a "linemans" belt.. Anything special or just google that and pick what you like ????
Tippit, yep that is basically the same thing as the ropeman ascender I use on mynlineman belts. Work similar with a can and easy one hand operation.
Pat for the lineman belt I use a ropeman ascender, 11 mm static climbing rope and 2 climbing carabiniers.
Everything can be bought online. I get all my biners and rope from rei. The ascender I just Google and see who has best price. Often its back country.com
If you decide to use a Prusik knot as a desender MAKE SURE IT IS A HIGH TEMPERATURE "PRUSIK CORD". Standard Accessory cord will burn thru with the heat that is caused by the friction of the slide. You can get High Temp Prusik cords at any Arborist supply site.
Picked up this from **** WILD COUNTRY NEW ROPEMAN 2 SET - Ascent plus belay set.
An assenter which spans 8-13mm and a locking carabineer. Not as cheap as the OP's video states but This was a spot price as I was buying tonight. Now on to REI.
Thanks OP!
To the OP, you state that you dye the rope you buy for your needs. Could you please tell us how long the rope, that you say is near waterproof, will stay in color?
QuoteOriginally posted by Missing Impossible:
Picked up this from **** WILD COUNTRY NEW ROPEMAN 2 SET - Ascent plus belay set.
An assenter which spans 8-13mm and a locking carabineer. Not as cheap as the OP's video states but This was a spot price as I was buying tonight. Now on to REI.
Thanks OP!
Let me know how you like the Rope man 2. I saw that same set up with the #2 and the locking biner. I see the #2 has different teeth on the cam. Im curious to see how it works out.
QuoteOriginally posted by Missing Impossible:
To the OP, you state that you dye the rope you buy for your needs. Could you please tell us how long the rope, that you say is near waterproof, will stay in color?
Cant really answer that yet. I have been using climbing rope for many years but this is my first time buying a huge amount. the cost difference was about 40 cents a foot between white and colored rope. So i figured id just dye it.
I did dye it with rit dye and it worked like a champ. I used dark brown. rope took the dye very easy. the dye is made to do nylon and color it permentently. the sheath on the climbing rope is nylon so it should last very well. If it fades or wears i will let you know but i dont see that happening. Even if it did I could re dye it fast and easy.
You can get the rope colored if you dont want to dye it. Thats what I always did when i only needed a few feet for a lineman belt. But with this big order I didn't want to pay the extra 50 bucks to get colored.
The rope is not waterproof but does not hold water line the soft ropes do. With the soft ropes when you hunt in the rain and throw the belt in your pack everything in your pack gets wet. With climbing rope it is more damp than wet and nothing in your pack gets wet.
Another plus to the climbing rope is it doesnt snag on the tree or collect burs like the soft ropes do.
LB, can you share with us why you prefer 11 mm rope? As you point out the load rating is really high. To save weight and bulk, any reason not to go to a smaller diameter for the "average sized" person?
Thanks for the sharing the info. Appreciated the video.
Bill
QuoteOriginally posted by Bill Frederick:
LB, can you share with us why you prefer 11 mm rope? As you point out the load rating is really high. To save weight and bulk, any reason not to go to a smaller diameter for the "average sized" person?
Thanks for the sharing the info. Appreciated the video.
Bill
Bill the Ropeman Ascender is rated for 10-13mm rope so i picked 11mm as it was in the middle...lol.
They now make a ropeman 2 that is rated for 8mm-13mm rope but i have not used one yet. the cam has different teeth and its about 15 bucks more for the ropeman 2. So i just still with the ropeman 1 and the 11mm rope out of habit.
The 11mm rope is very light weight and not bulky. But you can get 8mm rope that is plenty strong enough but you need the ropeman 2 to use the ascender.
here is my lineman belt with the ascender. In the back is a 25 foot tether I will use for my kids when they hunt with me.
both are the white pmi rope dyed with Rit brown fabric dye.
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Grandma always taught us to put a 1/2 cup of vinegar in our Ritt Dye broth to "set" the color...
I bought some camo once that suggested the same thing...to soak the camo when new in water treated with 1/2 C of vinegar... let it dry, then wash as usual.
Just a thought... the vinegar smell will dissipate quickly or can be rinsed out after the dying is done!
QuoteOriginally posted by Doc Nock:
Grandma always taught us to put a 1/2 cup of vinegar in our Ritt Dye broth to "set" the color...
I bought some camo once that suggested the same thing...to soak the camo when new in water treated with 1/2 C of vinegar... let it dry, then wash as usual.
Just a thought... the vinegar smell will dissipate quickly or can be rinsed out after the dying is done!
Dave,
Great tip!. Your Grandma was on to something because the Vinegar works so good they actually put that step in the directions on the bottle now.
LB_ hntr, thanks for the dyed rope pic, your results will work for me.
I plan on using the ascender on my linesman belt to counter not being able to tighten the prussic with climbing with one hand. I'll then use the dyed rope for my individual stands as tether ropes with prussic.
As an aside, becoming a member of REI has several benefits including large discounts and the ability to return items with no questions asked.
Thank you again OP for the informative video!
Michael
QuoteOriginally posted by Missing Impossible:
LB_ hntr, thanks for the dyed rope pic, your results will work for me.
I plan on using the ascender on my linesman belt to counter not being able to tighten the prussic with climbing with one hand. I'll then use the dyed rope for my individual stands as tether ropes with prussic.
As an aside, becoming a member of REI has several benefits including large discounts and the ability to return items with no questions asked.
Thank you again OP for the informative video!
Michael
Sounds like a great plan. Just make sure your lineman belt you want ot add the ascender to is 10mm-13mm rope as the ropeman is designed for 10-13mm climbing rope.
Great tip about REI membership. I am a member! as a matter of fact i just used my dividend to get a new garmin gps. Love REI.
Incredible "how to" segment! :clapper: Thanks so much for sharing! Great, great stuff!
Perfect timing I was just looking for a good system. I was just going to put some together. Thanks for sharing.
Just a heads up......
I found everything at Treestuff.com for very good prices. The Ropeman 1 at $29.95 and the 150 ft of 11mm rope at $119.00. :thumbsup:
Just order PMI rope and 7mm Prussic chord. Great podcast
Thanks for the heads up on treestuff.com . Got some nylon straps for a great price.
Just paid the $20 lifetime membership dues to REI and then ordered 30 feet of the 7mm cord for the prussic @12.95 and 60 meters(196 feet) of Maxim Apex 10.5mm rope for $134 because until tonight, REI has an additional 25% off of special buy items which saved me another $45 off that rope.
If anyone is looking into this you might want to commit before midnight because this is an exceptional deal!
That $134 rope is regularly $232!!
Thanks again OP for the Vid as that pushed me into doing what I needed to make all my stands safe!
Mike
To the OP, the Ropeman 2 will accommodate ropes from 8 to 13mm.
Also checked on things. The Ropeman have had some recalls on #3. A younger/newer company- be careful. I went with a Petzel for $29. A little different than the Ropeman. No moving parts. So far my trial seems doable.
One thing to be aware of is use in cold weather. If you were to get the rope wet then hit freezing, or freezing rain etc these more simple descenders "may" fail. Just a cautious warning.
Dan in KS
Thanks for sharing!
Thanx for sharing...
QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
Also checked on things. The Ropeman have had some recalls on #3. A younger/newer company- be careful. I went with a Petzel for $29. A little different than the Ropeman. No moving parts. So far my trial seems doable.
One thing to be aware of is use in cold weather. If you were to get the rope wet then hit freezing, or freezing rain etc these more simple descenders "may" fail. Just a cautious warning.
Dan in KS
The design of the ropeman #3 was totally different than the ropeman 1 or 2 that's why the 3 is basically gone.
I have been using the ropeman #1 for almost 15 years and every year I hunt freezing rain, ice snow bitter cold etc (December in northern Michigan). The ropeman #1 never fails to work, doesn't freeze up and works perfect everytime.
I don't have any experience with the ropeman #2 or the petzel or any of the other acenders and what situations they work in as they are all different. Even the ropeman #2 is different in the cam teeth design.
But the ropeman #1. flawless in everyway. And I put my life on it over 100 times a year for last 15 or so years.
Dan, im excited to see how that petzel works for you. There is another guy on here that bought the ropeman #2. both of these ive never used so im excited to hear how well they work. please keep me posted.
Im glad there are so many people interested in this. Not only for safety factor but the simple one hand function of the ascender makes it shine when you put up and take down every sit.
I put up and take down over 100 stands a year. I know Dan does the same and there are others on here that do as well. Running that many stands a season you need every advantage you can get. being able to simply and quickly adjust your lineman belt one handed means that you WILL wear it every second and not cheat. Prussics are great but can get frustrating. When they get frustrated people cut corners. Cutting corners can land you on the ground. The ropeman #1 and 11 mm rope is the best system I have found for the Perfect lineman belt.
Good post again Jason. I hope my short post did not sound counter- I was just adding info to be aware of.
As far as the ropeman mech failing, that actually is less concern than the fact that all these type-mechs work off teeth/friction. If the rope itself were to get froze w water they can fail. I actually had this very thing occur with treestand straps on a Lone Wolf. After literally 100s (X 10) of uses over 15 years I had the stand strap slip. It was due to moisture (drizzle) one day which turned to harsh ice sitting in my car overnight. The strap on the stand actually slipped through the buckle as I was standing on it. Scary!!! If it were not for a cedar branch that caught the stand I would have dumped.
I am now very cautious in wet/cold weather, moving stands in and out of the house/truck, etc. So- BE CAREFUL with any friction/tooth type of mechanism!
I like your set-up w Ropeman #1. But then you have to use min. 10mm rope. I like the smaller stuff (like 7-8mm) for price and weight. My local climbing store had 6, 7, 8 by the foot- fairly affordable (.40-.60 pf). Even 8mm really is overkill for a lineman.
I went with 8mm and a Petzel Tribloc (non mech). Time will tell.
Thanks again
Dan in KS
Dan--please post pics of how that Petzal works.
Lately I have been using some of my extra Lone Wolf straps modified as my lineman belt. I loop the loop end thru the left hip attachment of my harness and add a carabiner to the buckle end to attach to the right side. This allows a one hand adjustment. I also tie a knot on the tag end o the strap as one more safety precaution.
Dan,
Same thing here with the same stand. Actually the only time in my life I ever fell and had my line man belt catch me. Winter hunting, frozen strap on the stand, stepped on stand and the buckle slipped on the frozen stap and the stand dropped a foot and a half and rolled over. Thank god for my lineman belt. Makes you stop and think for a minute..lol. I actually just walked out of a bass pro shop 10 mins ago and was listening to one of the workers talking about how he never wears a harness. He said "my dad has been hunting 35 years and never fell". I just walked by and said "most hunters that don't wear a harness and fall only fall once in their hunting career... Think about it."
I looked up that petzel you bought looks like a good system and foil proof. I'm excited to see how it does for you. Just be extra careful until you get used to it since its all based on angle and friction. If you have been using a prussic knot system before the ascender will really make everything so much faster and smoother.
Another tip for those of you that have a harness that uses fabric "rings" where the line man belt carabinier hooks to the harness: get some clear or black plastic hose from home depot or hardware store and slice hose to open it up. Put it over the fabric ring and tape over the hose to keep it closed. Now they will work like a metal or plastic d ring does and you fight to get the carabinier on and off the strap.
Tree stand hunting has to be safe... But it doesn't have to be slow and tiring. A fast safe lineman belt will cut major time off the process.
Another note about the tether I made and just tested.
This thing makes everything about hunting with kids so easy. Here is what I found works great.
I carry my stand and sticks. My kid cartys second stand. I climb tree with my lineman belt with my stand on my back and hang stand. I lower the tether (not connected to tree yet) he hooks the second stand to the tether. I pull up second stand and hang it while I'm on the first stand. Then I connect the tether to the tree and drop it to him. He hooks to his harness and climbs. I control his slack from above. He gets on stand and locks his safety line before I disconnect tether. Simple fast and awesome. 7 mins from standing on ground to two stands hung and ready to hunt. Simply awesome.
On the way down I control slack as he descends. Then I use tether to lower his the second stand. I pull first stand and bring everything down with me as I go.
Loving this tether set up. So much better than the full guy system I was using.
Here you go. The rope goes one way through the Petzel (the petzel has sharp teeth one direction). When there is tension on the rope (as in leaning back on the lineman) the narrow angular hole of the Petzel pinches the rope between the biner and the teeth of the Petzel. The rope can still be pulled one direction, but it will not go the other.
To release some rope you simply take the tension off the rope (like you would the ropeman) and holding the Petzel with just a finger and thumb move it slightly to the wider end of the angle. As you lean on the rope it naturally pulls out bypassing the pinch and teeth. If at any moment you were to again lean back (even losing balance or something) the Petzel would immediately engage again in the narrow end (pinch and teeth).
All harder to explain than actually demonstrate.
EDITED PHOTO to final!
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Looks good dan and a simple effective design.
I might recommend putting the other end of the biner in the ascender. This way its easy to attach/detach from you harness.
A piece of duck tape on the biner will help with the sound. The ropeman always holds the biner tight but my metal d rings on my harness used to bother me so I used to duck tape them I don't anymore but it did work great and lasted along time.
QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
Here you go. The rope goes one way through the Petzel (the petzel has sharp teeth one direction). When there is tension on the rope (as in leaning back on the lineman) the narrow angular hole of the Petzel pinches the rope between the biner and the teeth of the Petzel. The rope can still be pulled one direction, but it will not go the other.
To release some rope you simply take the tension off the rope (like you would the ropeman) and holding the Petzel with just a finger and thumb move it slightly to the wider end of the angle. As you lean on the rope it naturally pulls out bypassing the pinch and teeth. If at any moment you were to again lean back (even losing balance or something) the Petzel would immediately engage again in the narrow end (pinch and teeth).
All harder to explain than actually demonstrate.
BTW- I was trying out the felt to see if I could make it dead quiet. I don't like any metal noise on any of my gear.
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Thanks, that looks slick.
Thanks Jason. Even better now. Got rid of the felt which actually makes it work better. Turned it around and put some duct tape on the non-working part of the Petzel. Perfect. No metallic noise and smooth as silk. Can't wait to use it more.
Also I have been reading about these ascenders. I could see how a guy could use these to make a pulley system in the woods if he needed to! A couple pieces of climbing gear could really open up a lot of options.
Here is the final pic.
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So what can I use if I were to fall and needed to get down to the ground? No good hanging there and not being able to get back to treestand
So what can I use if I were to fall and needed to get down to the ground? No good hanging there and not being able to get back to treestand
jax- the way I am tethered above my head - tree to the harness- I will never be caught hanging. "Falling" means my feet are 12-16" below the stand.
Looks great dan! That should work perfect!
Just an FYI for those here, Gear Express has the New England Maxim Apex Canyon 10.5mm x 60M Dry Rope on close out for $119.95. Just placed an order.
Just got my first order of 10.5mm dynamic rope in. I cut her into six equal pieces and added a double figure eight knot on the end. For those following the OP's thread, I've found that four foot is perfect for the 7mm rope used for the prusik when using the double fishermand knot.
QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
jax- the way I am tethered above my head - tree to the harness- I will never be caught hanging. "Falling" means my feet are 12-16" below the stand.
Thanks for all the information. My question is, if the stand were to fall from under you and then you needed to get down, is there a way with your setup?
Just climb down my climbing sticks. Same way I got up.
I just did a video showing how this system in use setting up and coming down. Its in a post I made earlier today called "super fast way to hang a stand" It shows this lineman belt in action and other tips.
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=139135
i have a climbing stand that i haven't used much yet but plan too.
i want to be able to climb using the stand, hunt, then leave the stand setup and decend using 2 prussics. one on my harness and one as a foot loop. then when i go to the stand next i can climb the rope using the 2 prussics.
which harness are you guys using?
Ozy,
I tried using just a rope and 2 prussic knots to climb a tree before. My thought was I could use a "rope ladder" on long way in hunts. It did not work like I wanted. I kept twisting and bouncing off the tree and got the crap kicked out of me.
I don't know how to make that work well.
Harness wise I use a sat of the pants harness. but any harness that has d rings or loops on the side to attach the linemans belt will work. so go for the one most comfortable and best fit for you.
it's very simple. you tube 'texas prussic' and watch the clip with the guy hanging near the rocks.
the rock in the clip will be like the tree, it will be used to steady me.
this is how i'm going to do it since i have a climber that i want to leave set and won't have climbing sticks for access.
All great info I plan on using. My question is I also have a seat of pants harness and love it however it's getting older and seems to have "shrunk" in size the last few years. I've been looking at new harness's and find very few if any have setups for line man belt hookups. Does SOP still make harnesses or are there better ones that don't way a ton?
QuoteOriginally posted by LC:
All great info I plan on using. My question is I also have a seat of pants harness and love it however it's getting older and seems to have "shrunk" in size the last few years. I've been looking at new harness's and find very few if any have setups for line man belt hookups. Does SOP still make harnesses or are there better ones that don't way a ton?
There are a lot of great harnesses out there by sop, muddy, spider, etc. About 80% of them have loops to attach a lineman belt to. These loops now are made out of strap material instead of "d" rings. If I were to buy a new harness with loop style rings I would buy some rubber hose and slice it length wise and fit it over the strap loops then tape the rubber hose closed. This way the carabiniers don't snag on the strap loops and you can move very fast. I don't know why (guessing money) that companies don't use "d" rings anymore.
I also can't believe that companies offer a harness without loops to attach a lineman belt or that the even sell a harness without a lineman belt. I would never buy a harness without a way to attach a lineman belt. Luckily there are a good varity of them out there that do have them.
QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
Just climb down my climbing sticks. Same way I got up.
I'm brain dead I guess. I use a climber and that was what was on my mind in asking the question.
All good. If I was using a climber. . . I would probably yell really loud. Hope that helps. LOL :bigsmyl:
Just following up on my experience. I bought the Ropeman 2 which has dozens of teeth to grab the linesman rope and have quickly found that using it with my SOP linesman belt rope was a PIA since the weave on that rope is very loose, resulting in snagging. I've since switched to a piece of the 10.5mm climbing rope for my linesman rope with excellent results. Hard to describe without pics but I added a carbineer to the small cable on the Ropeman 2 and attached it to the linesman rope towards the tree which, when pushed towards the tree, releases the grip of the Ropeman 2 and allows one to increase the distance of oneself from the tree with one hand.
QuoteOriginally posted by Missing Impossible:
Just following up on my experience. I bought the Ropeman 2 which has dozens of teeth to grab the linesman rope and have quickly found that using it with my SOP linesman belt rope was a PIA since the weave on that rope is very loose, resulting in snagging. I've since switched to a piece of the 10.5mm climbing rope for my linesman rope with excellent results. Hard to describe without pics but I added a carbineer to the small cable on the Ropeman 2 and attached it to the linesman rope towards the tree which, when pushed towards the tree, releases the grip of the Ropeman 2 and allows one to increase the distance of oneself from the tree with one hand.
I was waiting to hear how it worked out for you. Glad you like it. I have never used the Ropeman #2. I know the teeth are different than on the Ropeman 1. On my RM 1 you dont have to use that little cable as the cam sticks out far enough that its really easy to use your thumb to push the cam open and let rope out. So I cut the cable off on my RM 1. Might be worth seeing if your Ropeman 2 cam sticks out far enough that you can avoid using the extra carabiner to loosen. Only reason I say that is from a noise factor. that extra biner clanking against the ascender will probably get annoying when hunting. If you can not work the rm 2 with your thumb then maybe try a little loop of paracord on the cable so you have a "handle" that you can pull to let slack out but not be noisy like the extra carabiner will be.
Great Video! THANKS,I'll be prepared this season,
Jason, I got to use my Ropeman on my linesman the other day setting stands......so much better than a prussic loop!!
Not that I felt any safer, just so, so much easier/faster to adjust.....thanx for sharing a great idea!!!