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Title: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: wingnut on July 15, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
Has anyone tried the Solid Bhs?  I have a couple of 125 gr heads to try and some 175s coming.  They look like a great head and are extremely sharp.

The shape reminds me of the Journeyman heads I shot years ago and did I say they are sharp?

Might be a great head for lighter weight bows too.


Mike
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Jim Wright on July 15, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Even considering they are Samurai style, bone-blasting, and blood-letting, $160.00 for six is pretty stiff.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Gooserbat on July 15, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
In the rock pile called Adair Co. Oklahoma that I hunt in, a broad head is a usually a one trick pony...I'll stick to my stingers for 1/3 the price and the replacement warranty.  That said they look like a well built quality head just to steep for my pocket book.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: joe skipp on July 15, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
I can buy a ton of Zwickeys for $160....
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: bigbadjon on July 15, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
You can buy a ton of Zwickeys... and you can spend a ton of time grinding an edge, touching them up every time they go outside, cleaning rust, spin testing and trying to cure wobble, truing up rolled edges. No thank you. I shoot Silver Flames myself but will try these for a US option when I wear those out.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: wingnut on July 15, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
Yep the price is not for everyone.  I see them as the hunt of a lifetime head like a Silver Flame.  If you are willing to pay the price for a hunt like our moose hunt then the price is not so bad.  

Not sure if I will be using them this year but I'm intrigued.

Mike
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: nineworlds9 on July 15, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
Is it me or do these heads seem pretty plainly aimed at wheelbow shooters?  Length to width does not seem optimal to penetration by tradbow?  The Turkey head looks neat though.  Nice to see some USA made gear though.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: fnshtr on July 15, 2014, 08:36:00 PM
Too steep for me too. No doubt a good strong BH though.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Jim Wright on July 15, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Mike, with all due respect, the concept that the price of these broadheads is "not so bad" when used on an expensive outfitted hunt just doesn't fly. $29.98 a broadhead is STIFF, no matter when you buy them. If someone wants to have them they should go for it by all means but did I mention they seem really pricey?
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Orion on July 15, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
Short and stubby.  Poor mechanical advantage.  Not a head I'd buy, regardless of the price. Whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Bill Kissner on July 15, 2014, 09:03:00 PM
They remind me of the old Anderson heads of years  ago.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Steve O on July 15, 2014, 09:12:00 PM
I would sneak a pack or two of Tuffheads out of John's duffle...

Seriously, shooting the same broadhead as your camp mate could have its advantages and you are not going to find better than the Tuffhead.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Kevin Dill on July 15, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Those head sure are pretty. I wouldn't think they'd kill a moose any deader or faster or cleaner than a premium conventional broadhead. On the other hand, nothing wrong with following your heart!
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: monkeyball on July 15, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
There's been a lot of Moose killed,not to mention all kinds of other big game,with those edge ground,rusty,wobbly,Zwickeys....

 I must have gotten some made out of a different kind of steel. I don't seem to have a problem with them.

                                     Good Shooting,
                                                        Craig
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: TOEJAMMER on July 16, 2014, 01:06:00 AM
Ditto what Monkeyball said.  Zwickeys have been around since the thirties for a reason.  I wonder how long the Solids will be around?
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: joe skipp on July 16, 2014, 01:59:00 AM
Bigbadjon...I don't have a problem with anyone spending that much money on a broadhead if that's what they really want. I really don't care...my point is I WOULD NOT.

And...those problems you mentioned ...arrow wobble...never..constantly touch them up...NO...two strokes on a file removes any rust...if they get rusty...a few quick strokes with a file gets them back to shaving hair...NO BIG DEAL.

Shooting at a large rock from 20 yds....your Silver Flame and Tuffhead would definately come out on top over the Zwicky...hands down...but I don't shoot at rocks.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Dendy Cromer on July 16, 2014, 02:05:00 AM
Magnus and Zwickeys  have been always passed with flying colors for me. Even the old Bear Razorheads do a fine job.....
If it ain't broke.........
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: 59Alaskan on July 16, 2014, 06:56:00 AM
What!?!??
No glue on option!?!?!
Nice looking broadheads.  Not for me though.  Hope you take a big moose down!
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: wingnut on July 16, 2014, 07:52:00 AM
I'll probably stick with Tuffheads this year as it's a bit late to be waffling on BHs.  We are talking with the Solid guys about the possibility of a high end trad head though for future use.

Thanks for the input.

Yep it would be easier if they were $30 for 3.  LOL

Mike
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: jhg on July 16, 2014, 08:40:00 AM
A better choice IMO and the best of both worlds   for those that like wider, heavily built and machined, are the Aboyer Wapiti.

Considering what you get, the price is quite fair and putting three in the quiver won't find you in line at the soup kitchen.

Joshua
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Mojostick on July 16, 2014, 08:45:00 AM
They look like great heads. Just like knives with good steel, you get what you pay for. Granted, you can gut a deer with a $20 Chinese knife, but the quality of the steel will never be equal.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Kevin Dill on July 16, 2014, 08:49:00 AM
x1 on the Abowyer Wapiti...my favorite head for heavy-duty battle with big animals.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: 2nocks on July 16, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
eh, its a modular head, they don't look too solid.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Cmane07 on July 16, 2014, 11:22:00 AM
I shot them out of a wheelie bow the year after they came out and loved them.  Yes they are expensive but they are of extremely high quality and are scary sharp new and hold an edge.  I shot the same head into my block 5 times practicing and it would still shave hair easily off my arm.  Never shot them out of the widow though.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: longrifle on July 16, 2014, 12:29:00 PM
I guess if you have trouble being able to sharpen your own broadheads it's better for bowhunting in general to pay the big bucks and have them done before you open the package. I'm with most of the guys on here give me a Simmons, Zwickey, or old Bear razor head .
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Bjorn on July 16, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
I too prefer a longer cutting surface like 3:1. IMO those heads are likely intended for compounds. Nothing wrong with that-just a different market.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Mojostick on July 16, 2014, 04:47:00 PM
I talked to one of the owners of one of the well respected broadhead companies and he said that longer heads actually create more drag and resistance on gel tests than the shorter profile heads. The shorter heads have less surface area. The 3:1 ratio is an older standard, before slo-mo cameras and better testing materials than old tires and garbage cans. And, some of the research often quoted is on very large African game. Most hunters in the USA hunt whitetails and good blood trails after a passthru are typically the most desired outcome.

Shorter heads can be made thicker and will never bend or break.

For a while, people thought the Steelforce Phathead was a compound head. They couldn't have been more wrong. They are a stout little head, but finally 3 Rivers picked them up. And if one notices, the Phathead is one of the few with all 5 star reviews. One of, if not the best 4 blade on the market.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: wingnut on July 16, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
Ok, I want to clear something up.  I am shooting Tuffhead BH on my moose hunt this fall.  I was asking for opinions from those that have used the solid heads as to performance.  I did not ask if you thought they were expensive or short.

So far one person has offered that they used them with good success.  

And Bob pointed out a lot of relevant data on shorter heads then 3 to 1.

For me the jury is out but I will give the Solid heads a go on my next pig hunt here in Texas and let you know how they do.

Mike
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Mojostick on July 16, 2014, 06:57:00 PM
"For me the jury is out but I will give the Solid heads a go on my next pig hunt here in Texas and let you know how they do."

And that's all you can ask. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that they perform very well. But please report back, as I've been looking at them for a while.
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Friend on July 16, 2014, 07:05:00 PM
Michael....wishing you the best success
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: Sixby on July 16, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
I have doubts a moose would show any preference. Rocks might like Zwickies better. I believe there may be a place where we over do it. I would have no problem shooting a moose with either head and I can honestly say that IMHO neither would result in a quicker kill with a well placed shot and a razor sharp head.

God bless and have an awesome and successful hunt, Steve
Title: Re: Solid Broadheads?
Post by: stumpinkaiser on July 16, 2014, 11:52:00 PM
They look like a space age head. Put a zwickey in the right spot and its going down.