Any experience with the Silver Flame XL's out of say 35lbs-38lbs, on deer?
I'm going to use a 150gr 2 blade screw in out of my light bows in case my shoulder gives me an issue, but I'm also considering the Werewolf 150gr.
The XL is 1.5" wide and the WW is 1 3/16". Ii assume that little difference in width would matter out of light bows, but just wondering if anyone has used them. Any little bit helps on blood trails.
Shot a good sized, mature doe a few years back with a 37 pound High Sierra Recurve using the 1.5 inch 125gr XL's. I draw 30 inches. These were the original German ones, not the newer ones. 18 yard shot quarting away pretty steep. Went in through middle of stomach and hit far shoulder coming out.(shot from ground level) Got two holes, but did not get complete pass through, due mostly to heavy bone contact on that far shoulder I believe. Deer made it 60-70 yards and piled up with a solid blood trail. I was impressed with them, however, have not used them since because I only have 6 of the originals left and am kinda saving them for a special hunt.
Thanks. I'm fine with no complete pass thru, but I'm looking for two holes. I'll be shooting 10-12 yards, from pre-made natural ground blinds on well established trails. The shots are typically straight broadside, as the deer walk by.
For the money, the 6 pack of Werewolf's look like the way to go, if looking for a high end 150gr 2 blade. The 6pk of WW's costs less than the 3pk of SF-XL.
get close..
$100 is a mint for some b-heads..spend your $$$ where ya want though..that's what it's for..lol
word of thought...a 1 3/16" three blade has to cut more than a 1.5" 2 blade... 1 3/16"=1.1875" diameter. Each blade does 1/2 that in cut. 1.1875"/2=0.59375". 0.59375"x3=1.78125" of cutting going on.
Personally I'd be tempted to figure out a heavy setup ...
I am shooting a heavy setup. My hunting property and cabin costs about $20,000 a year, between mortgage and taxes. $100 for anything is cheap LOL.
Another option might be Magnus stingers. They are available in 150gr. And I believe are 1 3/16 cut. I think the addition of the bleeders is worth it as they cut only slightly larger than the shaft diameter. They fly great, and are easy to sharpen, and are a Michigan company.
I have no doubt I would have gotten a complete pass through if not for hitting the far shoulder. Very nearly got one any way as only the fletchings and about 6 inches of arrow was broke off in deer. I had brass inserts and the arrow was in the 11gpp range.
Sounds like they have everything going for them..
I've used Stingers out of 40-45lbs with super success. But post surgery, around 35lbs feels so comfortable and I'm shooting very well with a couple bows. I assume bleeders shouldn't matter much. I've killed one deer with less weight and Stingers, but did not get 2 holes.
Thanks for all the replies.
Good luck on your recovery!
..on a side note....our antlerless apps just opened up today
The newer silver flames from Alaskan Bowhunting are not made in Germany and aren't worth the price in my opinion. You can still get the German made ones if you go to the German kinetics website they have a list of US Distributors.
I would go with the original size silver flame or the stingers. The gain from the extra size doesn't outweigh the risk of not getting two holes. The silverflame design isn't the best design for penetration to start with but they are super sharp.
Heres my opinion through experience with Alaska Bowhunting Supply XL's and XXL. All Pass throughs but i shoot around 60# and 700 grains. these are 240lb whitetails under 18 yards. If i shot 45# , I would not hesitate using XL.
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That's a great deer!
Anyone shoot the Werewolf's from Eclipse? I had them in my hand at the K-Zoo show when they first came out and they sure seemed nice.
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