As many of you know I have gone through a bunch of bows. And really can honestly say the only one that I would want back is a 64" Schafer Silvertip T/D recurve. Beautiful Walnut and Gray Dymondwood Flared riser. Sheep overlays on the riser and tips. I would love to remember who I sold it to. For the life of me I can't remember. :bang head:
So what bow would you want back?
Oh yeah if you have my old Silvertip I need it back!!!
I once had a thunderhorn coup stick nothing real fancy but man I could shoot that bow. Don't quite remember the sats 52@26 I think it said. zebra wood and bubinga riser I think with red elm limbs. I would like mine back too!
My perfect condition Dale Dye :(
A DM centaur I had built for me. Found it, made a trade for it and I've been looking at it for 2 weeks now destroyed by PO in transit. High dollar piece of firewood now! Just needed to rant. But I did get it back.
I can think of several. My problem is I keep coming across awesome specimens, but I just can't keep em all! I have settled on a couple bows for at least a while. My new no.1 is the St. Jude's Elkheart I just posted about. It is perfect in so many ways it will keep my appetite for trying new bows in remission rather than full blown crazy. LOL
Sounds odd, but a 26lb Bear bow of my youth.would love to shoot it a bit. And hang in my man cave. Parents sold it at gar sale after I left foe college. Mad at them 35 years latter
Dan Quillian long bow with red elm limbs. Traded it years ago for a 9 mil because I shot it so much I got tendonitis in my bow arm. Had to get cortisone shots for it. Man it was the best shooting bow I ever owned. Won bow tournament's with it against compound shooters. This was before recurve stakes. I know I bring it up about once a month to friends how much I miss it.
Had a 7 Lakes Short Cloudy Night that I sold and bought back a couple times. I think I know who has it but he won't tell me for sure .
Unfortunately, not one but a few. A Harold Groves Spitfire Magnum two piece takedown; a Tom Jennings Smithwick Citation; and lastly a Frank Eicholtz Jupiter. It is amazing how much smarter you get with age.
I would like my first longbow I ordered around 20 years ago,my Talon longbow by Dave Paxton.
Several of my Schafers one sent to France and a beauty sent to Colorado.
I would love to get my Robertson Lb back...had to sell in a pinch.
Looks like this...anyone seen it?
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Green 70's Kodiak Hunter
My first Dale dye!
My '71 Bear Grizzly.
Ed, my motto is. "never get attached" :banghead:
I got it back:
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60"-#50@26 Rodertson longbow juniper limbs sheep horn tips Osage handle with pierce points. If anyone has it I will give them twice what I sold it for!!! It has my name on it. :pray:
A Kota Kill-Um I sold to someone on here. It had the best birdseye maple I have ever seen.
Widow TFV, 60" 51@30, that eventually made it into the hands of Warren Womack. He refers to it as the "Yellow Dog Widow" in his Womack Journal posts on the Outdoor to the Core website.
64" 59 kodiak, 64" 66 kodiak, Palmer double carbon, early 60s grizzly factory camo, a 60# factory camo 71 super k, lots of old bears I should've kept
Mohawk LB that I sold to Steadman in a weak moment. Love to have that one back.
I was able to get my old bighorn back but a couple out there I would love to have back are a left hand 07 widow PGA 60@27 And a LH 64" widow plv TD 60@28. Both were sold while short on funds. I've been through a bunch of bows but these and in particular the PLV really need to come home
Archery Traditions Bamboo Longhunter . 68" long and 58# at 28" draw. I shot it better than any bow I have owned since them.
My Mohawk longbow..... Was definitely a shooter ;)
My perfect condition Dale Dye :(
I would like to have back my BW PLV T/D Longbow .. I bought it used and it was just a fun bow to shoot ... it said "Ravensgate" on it I believe. I traded it in a moment of monumental ignorance :banghead: :banghead:
I shot my best turkey with that bow ...
My cheapo red fiberglass bow that started it all before I was school aged.
QuoteOriginally posted by daveycrockett:
A DM centaur I had built for me. Found it, made a trade for it and I've been looking at it for 2 weeks now destroyed by PO in transit. High dollar piece of firewood now! Just needed to rant. But I did get it back.
Man! I am so sorry to hear this. What a damn shame. Were you able to at least make a claim?!?!?
L/H Black Widow LAG,64" 58 @ 28 nothing fancy just a great shooting bow. :banghead:
One of my Bear A Riser take down, Have a few of them, But sold my first for a nutter one =(
One of the Blacktail bows I've had and my first Black Widow.
QuoteOriginally posted by nineworlds9:
QuoteOriginally posted by daveycrockett:
A DM centaur I had built for me. Found it, made a trade for it and I've been looking at it for 2 weeks now destroyed by PO in transit. High dollar piece of firewood now! Just needed to rant. But I did get it back.
Man! I am so sorry to hear this. What a damn shame. Were you able to at least make a claim?!?!? [/b]
Claim in progress. The box actually had rubber tire marks on it! It was 3 days late and it looked like it was repeatedly run over for 3 days.
For me two come to mind. My RER Vortex and my Dryad/Black Mountain Shaman.
two Billy Rice bows if anyone has a Rice bow for sale please contact me.
My first bow a Martin Howatt hunter. I have So many good memories with it.
I trraded a vintage Howard Hill that while too heavy for me to shoot well, was in perfect shape, and one of the best looking bows I have owned. The bow that I got in trade, an early Bear Take Down that was equally nice. My only consolation.
I sold a shrew... big mistake
I mostly buy bows and I don't like to sell mine,but when it happens is because that bow doesn't fit me enough or because I have a twin sister of her,that looks better or shoots alike.
This hummingbird. Sold it to brittman year and a half ago, he then sold it and can't remember who to.
If you have it please let me know.
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I found my Schafer, now the tough part of getting her back!!
My old Assenheimer with lighter limbs. That bow was a deer magnet! :archer2:
I had a two piece #45 Griffin that I'd like to run across again. Would also like to get back the #46 Toelke Classic Chinook I won in the St. Jude's auction several years ago, but that one is still in very good hands.
Iv had 3 bows that I wish never had of left me the first was a shrew samurai that I managed to buy back and dont think I could part with again
The second was a norseman longbow that I had had for a couple of weeks and was on its way to being my new #1 of all time but I didnt sell it but split a nock on release esentuley dry fireing the bow and cracked the riser and then I finaly thought I had found a replacement for the norseman with a black mountain sheep eater only to have the riser crack on me
I would love to find my old 64" Marriah Chinook named the springer (in Memory of Bob Spring) I think it was 64#28 and my old RH 66" St Charles laminated Yew T/D 60@27 named Ginger.. I was tracking the chinook for a while on stickbow but since lost who had it..
the bow trading disease got me real bad back then.
No regrets so far!
A Fox Breed that I sold in a fit of stupidity.
QuoteOriginally posted by Big Ed:
I found my Schafer, now the tough part of getting her back!!
thats great....
I loved my Rocky Miller bows. Started with his Heritage, then Rocky made me..back then his new Predator T/D. Brown glass, Red Elm/Maple Riser.
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i DON'T WANT ANY BACK-- Cause I never sold any-- :) )
Tolke whip!! Best shooting bow I've had to date IMHO.
Good for you Ed. Keep us posted on the return journey.
68", Howard Hill limited edition "Wild Boar". This is the only "Wild Boar" made with a silver Wild Boar on the riser. Cannot remember the number for sure, #49 I believe, but I do know my bud "Ric O'Shay" sold it to a TG member in West Virginia, who in turn sold it to someone else. If you know the where a bouts of this bow please give me a shout. :campfire:
my dads old martin one piece curve, it was the bow that got me into bowhunting. i took my 1st bow kill with it, a nice boar. also took a sow with it before it became a two piece.
60" 53@28" McCullough Griffin
Bill
QuoteOriginally posted by Big Ed:
I found my Schafer, now the tough part of getting her back!!
If You need something to trade for it that You don't have Ed let me know. I have several bows I could help You out with.
I'd like to have back the 62" Carbon Kobekona River bow I had by Jason Kendall. I got hard up for some cash a couple of winters ago and sold it like a IDIOT!!!
Would like to have my first bow back for nostalgia. It was a 1972 Bear Kodiak Magnum. The one I would really like back is the Jack Howard Gamemaster Jet that Jack made for me in 1973.
Bretto your the man!!!
Two come to mind......my Morrison Shawnee with longbow limbs, and a 62" glass Centaur, coco bolo with juniper limbs......luckily I just took possession of an almost new Centaur Chimera, in my specs with a better grip than the first one had.........things are right with the world again. :goldtooth:
Hope you get her back Ed.......
David
My Hill Wesley Special, ebony riser, with boo under black glass, and buffalo horn tips. Not a mark on it when I traded it. What a foolish trade.
If you see it Serial# WC 685126 marked 56@28.
Sure like to have that one back!
A Dale Dye one piece with, medicine points, Osage veneers, and osage riser. I ordered the bow and waited almost two years for it to arrive. Unfortunately, shortly after ordering it I had trouble with the right shoulder and had surgery shortly before it arrived. Had to shoot left-handed for a couple of years. Finally, I sold the bow two years after receiving it, thinking I would not be able to shoot right handed again. A year after selling it the shoulder finally got better and I now do 90% of my shooting from the right side.
Last time I seen heard of it, Danny Rowen had it and was giving it away as a Christmas raffle here on TradGang; Just because that is how Danny is (Damm, there are sure a lot of Good people here!). Honestly, I can't say how it shot because of the pain I felt when trying to shoot it, but I'd sure like to put a few arrows through that bow.
The first real bow i ever owned.Given to me by my grandad,when i was about 10 er so.He made it back in the 40's.I shot that bow up through high school and gave it to my nephew after grandad passed on.Nephew broke it seein how far he could pull it over the top of his bedroom door.
I had some Schafer limbs that had TX Rat Snakes skins applied by Dave, They were around 65#, Im not sure who has them now.
back around 82 I had a PSE recurve 62 or 64" 55@28.
It was accurate and drew smooth as a hot knife through butter. It had an aluminum handle and I traded it because I lived in Northern Michigan then and it made my hand cold in the late season. I wish I still had it because I now live in Georgia!
Bob Lee TD Longbow, 41#--great shooter I abandoned for beauty!
I've sold some, given away some, and have plenty still hanging on the wall.
Of the ones I've parted with, the Tamars Super Racli (Italian made) 66" 40@28 RD longbow would be the one I'd want back first. I sold it for a steal to a young lady getting into archery. I told her if she ever got rid of it I wanted first shot. She's never called. I'm guessing she still likes it. It was one quiet bow that loved GT Trad 1535s. I traded a post vise for it.
It's not a Cadillac bow, but it was a smooth good shooter.
A bamboo cored 64-inch Critter Gitter. Also, a one piece Asbel era Bighorn. Parted with a Morrison Shawnee when it got a bit heavy for me, but have since replaced it with another. Still looking for the others.
Back in the late 80s I had a beautiful Chastain Wapita T/D 70@29 regret selling that bow, it was a screamer.
jd
I traded for a Lost Creek Life Ender. Bow was a right hander and I was in the process of switching to lefty. I sold it to a young lady getting started in Trad archery and who was looking for a pretty bow to start with. I now shoot from both sides and would buy that one back in a minute.
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Great Northern Fireball. At 43# it was my first "nice" bow and I mistakenly thought I needed to move up in weight to hunt. Man, that bow just fit me...been chasing that feeling ever since. Traded it on TG, and I know where it is, but haven't got her back...yet. This picture was taken right after we moved into our new house, so please don't judge the purple paint :rolleyes:
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RER LX. Great bow. 52@28. Still don't know why I sold it. Contacted the TG'er in Colorado I sold it to, but he had already sold it. If you see this bow, I'd love to buy her back.
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And a Mohawk I sold to Ron W, a Dwyer Original that went out East, and I THINK that's about it!
A Wes Martin 'Mosshorn'. It was 58"s and 44@28. The bamboo lams were a sorta funny greenish color. Last I heard Vermonster sent it to a reservation somewhere up north for some kids to shoot. If I can't have it I'm glad those kids do. Hope they're still enjoying it.
My Schafer is coming home!! :jumper: :jumper: :jumper:
My A&H ACS CX 64" 48# @ 28". The only one i ever regret selling.
Bob Lee "stick" 48@28"
I had a Browning Nomad in 1979 that I dearly loved to shoot. It disappeared from my truck one day at college along with some tools.
I'm still mad about it...
I had a 56" Striker Stinger that was 44#@28". It was a great shooting little bow. Perfect for working on form because it was so easy to pull and hold. Mis that thing every time my form needs work. (A lot! Lol)
I'd want my Ben Pearson 30# lemonwood longbow I given for Christmas 1955.
In almost 25 years (and about the same number of bows) of shooting recurves, I can honestly say that I never let one go that I wanted back. When I start thinking that the bow might not be the best for me, I usually wait about 2 years before selling. I have sold: Schafer, Widow, Assenheimer, Rose oak, Palmer, Martin, RER, Marriah, etc. and have no regrets. I currently have 4 with a Wes Wallace due soon. The only ones I have owned that I would never sell are my Habu and Hoyt Gamemaster 2. They shoot the best for me year after year.
Ed, that's freegin awesome!!! I'd like to have my 1st Morrison Cheyenne A riser with water snake covered C limbs and my
Two, the 48# Magnesium Bear T/D I bought as a teenager back in the day, and the John Doge longbow he and I built together named "Cat Tracks". :archer:
I had a 3 piece Thunderhorn longbow with two sets of limbs that I sold in a moment of stupidity. Sure wish I could get it back or find another one.
I traded off a T-horn Heartstopper one piece that I should never have let go of.
My first bow. Well the first manufactured bow. A red Bear solid fiberglass. It had the perfect grip on it. A white bowstring. Wish I had that one.
I had two bows would like to have back... One was a Buffalo Runner Spirit by John STrunk that I won at the Trad Bowhunters of Maryland banquet back in 90s...maybe 97 or 98. Same night my truck was broken into at the banquet and everything stolen out inside including stereo...but I won a bow by damn! LOL IT had been refinished by Rich Lopez....and later I sent it to John STrunk and he worked the tiller a little for me and refinished it and did the inkwork over again. I sold it and regret sellign that osage bow...it was a fire bolt.
The other for emotional and not performance reasons...was another osage bow. This was one made by Joe Mattingly...it was called Dog-Leg. When he was near his end there was an auction to raise money to help him out and I donated a bow he made to help raise funds. Joe and I talked about it quite a bit after his surgery....and right before he passed he sent a new bow he had made and named One Holer...little static tipped osage bow. Both are sentimental...but Dog Leg is special. :)
Well Guys I hate to be the guy that doesn't have any regrets but.....
I have been lucky enough to keep all the bows I would ever regret selling. I put way too much thought into a bow before listing it. Maybe too much according to my wife.
I had a beautiful all osage Benchmark. No doubt I would no longer be able to pull it back but it was a beauty.
Bob Lee take down recurve, 64", 51@28", micarta riser and tips. I bought it used, couldn't get it quiet enough at the time but I've learned a lot since I traded it and am sure I could've solved it now. I shot that bow better than any I have ever owned before and since.
I had a 69" 60@28 Sky Trophy, really nice shooting bow. I sure wish I'd kept it.
And I thought I was the only knucklehead that sold great bows!! :knothead:
Ed, I am happy to hear you found your old bow again.
A Brackenberry Sidekick that I owned back in 1999 and a Silvertip that I sold about 4 years ago.
An old Shakespeare recurve I had 30 yrs ago
The only one i regret was a one piece Harrison HSS i sold to a fellow on the eastern seaboard a few years back.
80#@28" and 62" long.
That bow was smoooooooth.
all of them !!!
I got mine back on Wednesday evening, packed it up Thursday morning for Dentonhill and preceded to shoot the best I have shot since my hand injury.
Ed
I have a self-imposed limit of bows. I just can't justify to myself owning more than I have right now. I have sold a few bows in order to get the ones I have now. My Blacktail VL and my Pronghorn are the best I have owned.
I do have some minor regrets about selling my Shrew CH to you, Ed. It was a very nice usable bow weight to me at 51#. I think what I miss about it was the handle design was just so different compared to my other bows. that and the maneuverability of a short bow (56").
Ed glad to see its home.......feeling the same way with mine. Looks as good as the day I got it. All settled in for this fall. Tom
A Wes Wallace Mentor takedown 56# 60" bocote riser with bloodwood accent stripes, red elm limbs with bocote veneers. Traded this bow for two HHbows, one was a Big 5 and the other was a t/d Owl. Still reeling from this trade.
A Frederick longbow by Fritz Jonk . . . a very nice mild R/D longbow that I should have kept.
My first Bighorn, 62" of pure sweetness. Dumbest bow deal I've ever done getting rid of it.
Still MIA...
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64" Wes Wallace cocobolo w/ bloodwood riser, bamboo limbs, clear glass recurve. 45@28. Really, any of the Wes Wallace recurves I foolishly let slip away. They all shot well.
Currently trying to find my hummingbird recurve. Sold it to brittman 2 yrs ago. He doesn't remember who he sold it to.
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I wish I could find my old 55# 1967 Kodiak Mag, that my ex wife sold on Craigslist a few years ago while I was put out of the house by an O.O.P.
I got back in the house after the divorce and found out why my son Tyler couldn't find the backquiver I had him looking for... Tyler told me one night a stranger came to the house looking for his mom. He had a piece of paper,listing an "Archery Set".
1 Kodiak Mag,Backquiver,and a bunch of arrows... GONE!!!!! :mad:
QuoteOriginally posted by Moots:
A Frederick longbow by Fritz Jonk . . . a very nice mild R/D longbow that I should have kept.
Hey Moot, I still have the bow and am sorry to say....it is by far my favorite and won't be letting it go anytime soon. Sorry buddy, however, just know it found a good home and is well taken care of and shot often.
My solid Gaboon Ebony 3 pc. Fedora recurve with 2 sets of Bamboo limbs, regretted getting rid of it as soon as I shipped it out.. Also my 1974 47# Super Diablo that I had the limb tips converted to FF, man that was a great shooting little bow.
Jeffrey Royal Mag Hunter Recurve. 60" 55# at 28. Green Action wood riser with black glass on the limbs.
Wow I have sold so many nice bows. But there was a Morrison recurve with bacote riser and copperheads that I would definitely like back.
God bless, Steve
QuoteOriginally posted by GreyGoose:
No regrets so far!
X2
A 62" Super Shrew with dark highly figured Yew limbs.I do not remember who I sold it to here,but would love to have it back!
When this thread started, I wished for the chance to get back a Dan Quillian Bamboo Longhunter. I was contacted by a member who sold me one almost exactly like the one I traded away so long ago. So now I don't want what I used to have, but I do want more.
Yep...!...58" Morrison Shawnee t/d, riser Osage and Bocote, limbs Bocote belly and Copperhead back, 55# @ 28", has my name on it, would love to get it back.....!.....
Very cool seeing bows coming full circle!
My Widow MAV first year they came out with ironwood. Was a gift for my dad and I sold because I needd cash in college.
I sold "sporthunter" a 60" Toelke Lynx, I've been dieing to get back.
My first Bear Grizzly from mid sixties
My Bob Lee that I sold about 5 years ago on here 62"56 lbs bubinga best shooting bow I have shot trying to get wife to.let me buy one right now
My Stalker Coyote
My 1968 Super Kodiak. No clue what I was thinking when I traded that bow away.
None of them. When I get one back, I soon remember why I got rid of it, in the first place.
My Silver tip and the Black canyon. Both great bows for me.
ALL OF THEM!
lol
But mostly my 62" Whip HS.
'63 Tamerlane (first year they were made).
Bought new and received it in January after I ordered in December of '62 so it had superb fine grained rosewood as it was one of the first out of the factory. Traded for a take-down when I got out of the Navy in '70, so my wife reminds me.
However, I would not shoot it much now if I found it. Just look at it everyday as it was some super duper really beautiful bow. The others I saw at the field archery tournaments later that year were not as good looking as mine in regard to the wood grain, color and interesting grain patterns. When they put those side plates on them in '64, Bear did no favors to the design of their most beautiful bows. I thought the side plates were ugly, and evidently so does many other people as the '63's are sought more now. Like the old Black Widows which had painted risers (all did from '62 back). Fantastic designed bows, but the painted risers did little to show off the great design of the bows. However, a lot the best shooters shot them. Looks are important to me if I'm forking out money for the best.
Now glad to have a bunch of old Bears (Specials and Kodiaks) with Brazilian rosewood to look at and none of them cost me much compared to buying a new top end custom bow with fancy woods. These old Bear classics are a bargin for looks and performance.
Think I'm happy and very thankful with what I got ('59, '60, '62 Specials and '61, '62 Kodiaks and a few others).
I would take my Pittsley Predator back in a minute IF it magically turned to left handed...
ChuckC
only bow I ever regretted getting rid of is my Brackenbury Quest. It is somewhere in France now and I will probably never get it back, but sure would love to.
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My old Ben Pearson lemon wood self bow that broke when I was a kid. It was my first 'real' bow. I shot a bunch of arrows and imaginary game with that bow at around age ten-eleven.
A 64in Morrison Cougar. Osage riser & Copperhead skins.
Well, I'd want my youth back and then I wouldn't have had to get rid of some fine shooting bows due to too much draw weight! At the top of my list are an Elburg Cherokee Magnum and a Paxton Talon longbow.
I had a Northwind curve all bocote and bamboo shot my largest buck with. Sold it to pay school taxes.
My Seven Lakes Short Cloudy Night. If you ever see it 62" 58@28 coco riser bamboo limbs with prairie rattler skins please named MOJO please let me know. :pray:
My Cari-bow Tuktu 60" 55#@28. Koa veneers and a Chechin riser.
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my OL Adcock bow that has my name BRAD LANTZ on it ..... I'll buy it back if anyone ever sees it
Bear "Bruin" longbow, killed my first deer with it. I know where it is, it never gets shot, and he wont sell it back. Also a Great Plains recurve I killed many deer with that i gave to my step son. Somehow, he lost it, sold it, gave it away..., who knows. Would not have sold it, but gave it to him as something special. No appreciation.