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Title: ground ? Tree?
Post by: Slickhead on July 02, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
Trying to make up my mind whether to do the tree or work on a brush blind.
Cant make up my mind?
Love the shot angle from the ground and its a lot more exciting.
I think I just figured out what to do
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Post by: ron w on July 02, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
I think you answered your own question.......   :biglaugh:
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Post by: locohunter on July 02, 2014, 10:50:00 PM
I am new to trad hunting, but love the ground and have had a lot of success there.  I like the ability to go in quite, flexible and agile; able to move easily if conditions warrant!  I will sometimes hide my hub blind in the woods and assemble upon arrival to make travel easier.
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Post by: KSdan on July 03, 2014, 12:04:00 AM
loco- I hunt like that from trees.  Completely portable and quiet. Any tree one time up in under 10 minutes.  Move if I need to.  The thing I like about the tree is seeing deer before they are in range and maneuvering for the shot.  Agree- do not like the angle.  Pros and cons.

Enjoy both.  Pretty cool taking them off the ground though.

Dan
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Post by: Ceb on July 03, 2014, 09:22:00 AM
On the ground for me, too old and fat to climb trees any more. Besides face to face at distances sometimes measured if feet instead of yards is just way to much fun!
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Post by: arrowslinger22 on July 03, 2014, 09:54:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ceb:
On the ground for me, too old and fat to climb trees any more. Besides face to face at distances sometimes measured if feet instead of yards is just way to much fun!
X2
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Post by: Pete McMiller on July 03, 2014, 09:55:00 AM
x3
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Post by: jkm97 on July 03, 2014, 10:30:00 AM
Not an either/or to me, I do both depending on the location.
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Post by: Sam McMichael on July 03, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
The older I get, the better I like hunting from the ground. Being still and quiet are always important components of hunting from an elevated stand. They become even more crucial on the ground. But it sure is fun, especially when you have a deer stick its head in your brush blind.
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Post by: TooManyHobbies on July 03, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jkm97:
Not an either/or to me, I do both depending on the location.
x2.
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Post by: MikeM on July 03, 2014, 01:35:00 PM
ground for me
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Post by: Sirius Black on July 03, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Ground. No more trees.
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Post by: JEFF B on July 03, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
Ground for sure trees are for Birds and Tree Rats  any how ya don't have far to fall if tired    :goldtooth:
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Post by: tomsm44 on July 03, 2014, 05:30:00 PM
Depends on the situation.
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Post by: tracker12 on July 03, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
Last year I hunted almost exclusively out of a ground blind after sitting in a tree for the last 40+ years.  I had great success and killed two of my best bucks ever.  Ask me where I will be hunting this year:)
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Post by: Tajue17 on July 03, 2014, 06:13:00 PM
A tree stand  with brushed in ground stand at the base,, my favorite.
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Post by: ChuckC on July 03, 2014, 07:23:00 PM
Do both as you need.  I think all of us should be considering the ground more often, if the situation warrants, for those very reasons stated above.
ChuckC
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Post by: Keefer on July 03, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
No need for a safety belt if you hunt the ground like I do...When you are eye to eye it ads a whole new meaning to hunting to me..
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Post by: Kopper1013 on July 03, 2014, 08:42:00 PM
Just curious how are you guys hunting from the ground?

I tried a gillie suit two years ago got really close but found strings on My suit always grabbed the bow string, have had trouble finding a blind that is easy to shoot a 64" bow in. So last year I went back to the stand and killed my first two traditional white tails.
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Post by: PUDDLE JUMPER on July 03, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
Since I took up the recurve I have been ground hunting only. I will take to the trees as my skill
developes; but expect stand hunting to be less than ten percent of my hunting.

The advantages to hunting on the ground are often overlooked by hunters. The same can be said about about our weapon of choice. More challenging yet still offering a clear advantage in certain situations.
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Post by: PUDDLE JUMPER on July 03, 2014, 09:31:00 PM
One of the biggest advantages to hunting on the ground is I tend to hunt a lot more. Not having all the extra gear its a lot easier to just grab the bow and go.

Another plus is I find is you tend to hunt the areas that others do not.
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Post by: Uncle Buck on July 04, 2014, 06:09:00 AM
age arthritis and fat keeps me on the ground
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Post by: Keefer on July 04, 2014, 08:36:00 AM
I just hunt with my Asbell plaid pullover ,find a downed tree near a well used trail and if the tree has any sort of root ball left I hide on the tree side or hide inside the root ball and keep still as I can while sitting in my Huntmore 360..A few years ago I took this little 7 point while sitting inside a pretty big rootball and got a 12 yard shot...I use nature to my advantage as much as possible ..I have hunted that root ball many times in the past few years and on another farm this past year had about 6 encounters with several deer and a nice buck within 10 yards using a downed tree and hugging close to the rootball on the tree side..Deer are used to down trees and it's all Natural...I also wer a mask to cover my ugly face and spray with an earthscent every so often to try and mask any odors and play the wind...I have been blessed to have many trees scattered that can be quickly used in case of a wind change...   (http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu55/KEITH63/101_7397.jpg)
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Post by: katman on July 04, 2014, 08:37:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by TooManyHobbies:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by jkm97:
Not an either/or to me, I do both depending on the location.
x2. [/b]
x3
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Post by: Tajue17 on July 04, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Kopper1013:
Just curious how are you guys hunting from the ground?

I tried a gillie suit two years ago got really close but found strings on My suit always grabbed the bow string, have had trouble finding a blind that is easy to shoot a 64" bow in. So last year I went back to the stand and killed my first two traditional white tails.
I've used a 70" bow while on my knees in a stand you just need to cant the bow like when your in a blind,,, ghillies just sew netting over the breast area where the loose material is.   my favorite is a leafy suit and I just sit or kneel down right at the base of fat tree with some ground growth around it,,, prefer to have other trees directly in front of me a few feet away (like turkey hunting with a bow) so I can draw my bow and shoot by the left or right side when its time but I have taken a few deer where I was just sitting right there in the open,,,,, you need to wait till they look somewhere else or hear something,, push pull method of drawing it was works the best.    when my buddy was learning to ground hunt because of his bad back he listened to my instructions wrong instead of setting up the wind and sitting off to the side of a run he  used a 5-gallon bucket painted camo and sat right on the run!!!   he had a doe walk right up to him and they stared at each other at about 10' away.....   the leafy suit is the best I found for ground hunting.   but I killed one buck standing there with my work clothes on,,, its no movement and drawing the bow at the correct time,,, you cannot move at all for hours or very very slow motion.
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Post by: locohunter on July 04, 2014, 09:04:00 AM
Its all good, and the options are endless!  My climber is extremely comfortable and i spent many hours in it last year with deer oblivious to my presence.  From the ground, while i have used my blind many times, i do like to use natural materials gathered up from the ground, brush etc.  How do we ever make it between seasons?!??!  I need to get out there!
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on July 04, 2014, 09:08:00 AM
Personally, I think the spot you want to hunt should tell you how it should be hunted.
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on July 04, 2014, 12:21:00 PM
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Post by: maineac on July 04, 2014, 12:45:00 PM
I will do either, depending on spot and conditions.  I like both.
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Post by: RETARMY06 on July 06, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
Ground only - better shot angle, safer, no worries about anybody stealing my stand. My blinds have a five gallon bucket - who would want that?
But being "eye-to-eye" makes a lot of sense. If you can't watch their eyes how do you know when to move? That 320 degree vision is hard to beat. It's easier when you are at the same level. True, if you see them they see you, but if you're not sillouetted they look right through you anyway. Sorry, I do not believe deer can sense when you are staring at them. Some people do, and avoid looking them in the eye. If you're that close and they haven't taken off yet, movement is all you have to worry about. Same with scent - if the wind holds you're fine. Noise is a no brainer -no squeaking deer stands to worry about.
Also since I use a vintage bow from 1969 I might as well hunt like they did in 1969!
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Post by: mcgroundstalker on July 06, 2014, 03:46:00 PM
Kindly read my cyber-name... Does that answer your question?  :D

... mike ...
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Post by: buckeye_hunter on July 06, 2014, 05:39:00 PM
I'm using a leafy suite with a ghillie hat this year. I'm going to carry a folding saw and pruners to make ground blinds on the go. Let's hope it works, I'm low on meat....
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Post by: stagetek on July 07, 2014, 09:58:00 PM
I'm completely comfortable in tree's. And, prefer to hunt that way. When I find a good area the first thing I look for is the "right" tree. Sitting on the ground is seldom an option.
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Post by: robin on July 08, 2014, 02:02:00 AM
used to hunt from trees for many years and after my fall...well its a matter of time if you hunt from tree. (some more lucky, some not so)

Now , i hunt from ground for a natural material blind and i would say, have the same success as in tree...............   ;)
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Post by: spider64 on July 08, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
Well I am having back problems now and thinking about just hunting from the ground. Not had much experience with this yet , but you have to start somewhere ! I think it takes a more skilled hunter to kill from the ground. I think it's more like one in one on the ground.
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Post by: olddogrib on July 09, 2014, 07:15:00 PM
My days in the trees are numbered, but aren't over yet.  Whoever said hunting the wind was all you need to do has never been to the N.C. Blue Ridge...the breezes and thermals eddy and swirl constantly.  If you took that advice you'd do nothing but move all day long.  Maybe things are more predictable in your neck of the woods!
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Post by: wallybowman on August 11, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
Ground for me
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Post by: Butch Speer on August 12, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ceb:
On the ground for me, too old and fat to climb trees any more. Besides face to face at distances sometimes measured if feet instead of yards is just way to much fun!
You got that right. I don't bounce anymore!
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Post by: Butch Speer on August 12, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ceb:
On the ground for me, too old and fat to climb trees any more. Besides face to face at distances sometimes measured if feet instead of yards is just way to much fun!
You got that right. I don't bounce anymore!
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Post by: Rob W. on August 12, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
I love ground hunting. All around more enjoyable for me.

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Post by: Cavscout9753 on August 12, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
I love these threads. I like the idea of ground hunting much more than trees. If I owned my own property I would probably construct a bunch of stands and litter the property with them so I had many options. But I hunt on post so sometimes the areas I want to hunt are closed. Climbers make the most sense but if I end up wanting/needing to re-locate I dont like messing with them. I think this year I may try a leafy ghillie. The one I have now is a burlap one made by a buddy who was a sniper. Things is brutally hot and bulky - plus I look like a swamp beast, im afraid someone is going to pop me in order to get on the news.
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Post by: ChuckC on August 12, 2014, 08:09:00 PM
do a little of both, no reason you can't,  There are lots of places that trees are just not available, but ground stands are.  And frankly, a lot of places that trees are right there but I like the ground anyway. I just cleared out one of my ground blinds today, can you tell I am a bit prejudiced ?
CHuckC
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Post by: PUDDLE JUMPER on August 12, 2014, 11:54:00 PM
95% of the time I will be on the ground. The times that I will be using a stand I will be less than 7 ft high.

There are places I hunt where you have to get up for the shooting lanes. Sometimes only four or five ft will make the difference.

I love hunting hill country but plan to hunt a lot more swamp edge until my shooting improves. Thick and close.
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Post by: toddster on August 13, 2014, 05:15:00 AM
I love the view from hunting from a stand, but in the last 6 eyars have grown a passion for hunting off the ground, especially on public land.  I usually go out this time of year and just kinda set up make shift forts, like when was a kid (old I know).
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Post by: BUCKY on August 13, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
I'm in the tree 99% of the time but this year I'd like to try the ground a little more. I found a comfortable ground seat,the top of my lone wolf hand climber stand.
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on August 13, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
Ha, where did you get that idea from?

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Post by: DarrinG on August 13, 2014, 09:20:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by olddogrib:
My days in the trees are numbered, but aren't over yet.  Whoever said hunting the wind was all you need to do has never been to the N.C. Blue Ridge...the breezes and thermals eddy and swirl constantly.  If you took that advice you'd do nothing but move all day long.  Maybe things are more predictable in your neck of the woods!
Ditto! I too live in the mountains of western NC and the swirling winds around these hollers and hills are relentless. Ground hunting means moving constantly. While I will hunt from the ground occasionally, I prefer 15-20 ft up a tree.
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Post by: DennyK on August 13, 2014, 09:48:00 PM
Love my ground hunting. Just ordered a ASAT leafy suit today, pretty excited to try it out.
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Post by: Slickhead on August 14, 2014, 03:15:00 PM
I do both
but have to say that ground is where my heart is

But the wind swirls a lot where I hunt so, ive gotten busted a time or two.