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Title: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Guru on September 23, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
This is from a squirrel I shot last Sunday. Since it's early squirrel season,thought you guys might be interested.....

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/hunting/squirrel006.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/hunting/squirrel007.jpg)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/th_squirrel005.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/?action=view¤t=squirrel005.flv)

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/th_squirrel011.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/?action=view¤t=squirrel011.flv)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/hunting/squirrel012.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/hunting/squirrel014.jpg)


It started out as small black spotinside a big bump under it's skin,then I noticed it was moving. Took about ten minutes for it to get out after it's host(the squirrel) was dead.


Any clue????
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: gjw77 on September 23, 2007, 09:26:00 AM
yeah
 I believe that is what they call a botfly larvae or warble.It develops into the fly iside the host's skin then comes out as a fly.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Mike Brown on September 23, 2007, 09:27:00 AM
I think it is probably what I have always heard called wolves.  It is a parasite that is carried on rabbits during warm weather.  I hear that it is ok to eat the meat.

I have heard of them my entire life but have never seen one.  That is my guess.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: James Wrenn on September 23, 2007, 09:28:00 AM
Sure, they are in squirrels untill the weather gets cold.They come out around the first frost.They get in rabbits as well.That is why we usually don't squirrel hunt much untill the weather cools down.They are a larva from some type of fly.Pretty normal around here.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Guru on September 23, 2007, 09:30:00 AM
It's got to be a big fly....it's about 3/4" long and 1/2" wide......Thanx guys....looked like something out of a movie....
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Kip on September 23, 2007, 09:32:00 AM
gjw77 is correct.Although I have never killed a sq. with one or any killed at my camp and I am talking hundreds ,very common in the South.They seem to occur more in some areas than others.All reports I have read is it does not harm the meat used only as a host for hatching.I would have a problem eating it though after cleaning.Kip
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: southernarcher on September 23, 2007, 09:38:00 AM
Yeah that's what we call wolves down here as wellsome type of fly larva.They are in rabbits too like stated above.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: bentpole on September 23, 2007, 09:43:00 AM
GURU Looks like MOTHRA! I hope it doesn't get much bigger I haven't seen Godzilla around in a while!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: zilla on September 23, 2007, 09:49:00 AM
It's a Horse Fly Larvae..  I just had one removed from my dawg. The vet said he had removed six so far that week [Tues].  Seems the horse fly bites to make a hole into the skin and deposits the egg by the hole.  The egg finds its way to the hole and goes in.. The vet said that the egg is very sticky so it  won't wash off etc..
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Shape Shifter on September 23, 2007, 09:57:00 AM
It definitely looks likes the Botfly Larvae. It is in the family of hairy flies which use mammals for the host until it emerges. As stated previously, very common in horses. There are some crazy videos on U Tube of these being removed from humans.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: varmint on September 23, 2007, 10:20:00 AM
Watched a squirrell from my stand the other day that had at least 3-4 on it's back.We've always called them "wools" around here,and don't usually start hunting tree rats until a few good frosts,seems to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: allanburden on September 23, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
I agree with varmint, with the weather so hot down here in SC, I usually wait until after deer season and then take off after 'em. My grandpa would say the meat was ok, I have just never been able to deal with eating something that I have just watched some other organism that large crawl off/out of.  So I just wait for cold weather.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: TonyW on September 23, 2007, 10:50:00 AM
WARNING:
Do not visit this website if you plan to hug a squirrel today!

 http://botfly.ifas.ufl.edu/fibroma/fibrappr.htm   :scared:  
  :scared:    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: MikeW on September 23, 2007, 11:01:00 AM
^^^^^^^
Humans get them too. Go to Youtube and search Bot fly.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: ishiwannabe on September 23, 2007, 11:07:00 AM
Squirrel is so NOT for dinner!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: bluegrassbowhunter on September 23, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
That's a pretty common site here this time of year,I'd say at least 50% of what you shoot will have them.I hear it doesn't affect the meat but it's not very appetizing seeing something like like on a critter you plan on having for dinner...
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: SouthMDShooter on September 23, 2007, 11:52:00 AM
yes defenitly a warble sqwerls from around here at least get them every year around this time, they leave with the cold weather though...curtis
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Matty on September 23, 2007, 02:09:00 PM
Ugghh!!!  I think I just threw-up in my mouth....   :p
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 23, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
I have had the same larva fall out of a deer's nose after they are dead and start cooling off.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: IB on September 23, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
UCK"O".....Where do you come up with these Weird rascals?

I wanted so ,to come visitin. Now I must question that ADVENTURE inta the 3rd world  :scared:    :scared:
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Shakes.602 on September 23, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
Looks like an "Alien" to me!!  :scared:    :scared:   Man  THAT  is Gross!!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: bowdude on September 23, 2007, 05:24:00 PM
I know I won't be moving south now.  Never seen or heard of em before.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: paleFace on September 23, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
that thing had to be hurting! thanks for taking that squirrel out of his misery.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: bmfer on September 23, 2007, 05:42:00 PM
That frickin' GROSSS!! This is the reason I don't shoot them untill there has been likr 5 good frosts! I DON'T have a weak belly but....UGHH!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Chortdraw on September 23, 2007, 06:17:00 PM
They get on cattle a lot
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: JC on September 23, 2007, 06:54:00 PM
Awwwwww, you bunch of sissies!  :biglaugh:  Heard em called everything mentioned, "wolves" are the most common terminalogy around here. They are just barely under the first layer of skin, doesn't hurt the meat at all. Down here, it's a fact of life a lot of the early season squirrels will have them, especially if you've had a rainy late summer.

Squirrel....it's what's fer dinner!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: b.glass on September 23, 2007, 06:59:00 PM
I've seen these on cattle and once on a cat. We don't usually take farm cats to the vet but I felt sorry for this one with a wound that would not heal. Turns out to be this alien being growing inside its skin near the jaw line. The vet pulled it out with tweezers. Said it was a fly larvae.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Killdeer on September 23, 2007, 07:18:00 PM
I was fine 'til Eric opened his yap.  :p  
I will never look at a deer nose the same again.  "[dntthnk]"  

I used to see botflies around the horses, blapping their butts against the horses' legs to lay their eggs. It's a little different for a horse, they lip up the eggs, which go to their stomachs, where the larvae feed. They can make a mess of the stomach lining. After they get old enough, they let loose and get pooped out. I used to try to kill any botfly I saw, and would scrape the eggs off the horses' legs when I groomed them.

Killdeer~I am fond of cold-weather squirrel hunting!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Guru on September 23, 2007, 07:38:00 PM
Yeah, It was just under the skin as Joe said......
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Izzy on September 23, 2007, 07:42:00 PM
Thats good to know.I found a dead gray and a chipmunk in my yard a few minutes apart.They had bumps under their skin but Ive never seen a maggot protrude from them.You did that squirrel a big favor.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: BigRonHuntAlot on September 23, 2007, 07:50:00 PM
Botfly larvae is a common thing when taking squirrels in warm weather. Most of the time when you skin em out they will fall out whether they are ready or not. We call em " Wolves " too. There is nothing wrong with the meat. This is just a parasite that you can see like a tick except they are under the skin.

 Just don't clean em in front of someone and expect them to eat a squirrel afterwards. LOL
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: James Wrenn on September 23, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
Just roll them in seasoned cornmeal and fry them up quick.Makes a nice appetizer before the treerats get done. Ain't no sissies around here!  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Killdeer on September 23, 2007, 07:58:00 PM
"Seek the wolf in thyself"

Thanks, HerkimerHunter! :eek:    :scared:  
I'm gonna go watch a nice horror movie now, so I can dream nice dreams tonight. Plan 9 From Outer Space, maybe...

Killdeer~yakkkkk
Hmmm. Breaded and fried?   :rolleyes:    :)
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Forester on September 23, 2007, 08:48:00 PM
I read a short story in PA Game News several years back about a women who developed a bump on her forearm.  It swelled and became sore.  The morning before her doctors appointment she felt it move.  She described the pleasure of watching one of these "wolves" emerge from her own body.  I'll never forget that article, it was the first thing I thought of when I saw Guru's pictures.

A little like the parasites in a deer, just extra protien for us hunters   :p
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Tdog on September 23, 2007, 08:48:00 PM
Curt you know you must eat what you shoot. Use alot of garlic when you cook that larvae. Let me know how it is.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: COMBER on September 23, 2007, 09:00:00 PM
I was out at my hunting lease in Kansas with the rancher when I made the mistake of asking him what the golfball sized lump was on the side of one of the calfs he was working and he showed me by using his pocket knife and squeezing the Larve out. I almost went vegatarian after seeing the Fly Larve pop out of that calf.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Archer Fanatic on September 23, 2007, 09:11:00 PM
They are also on cows.  I used to pop them while milking the cows during the hot summer months.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: SouthMDShooter on September 23, 2007, 09:27:00 PM
ya the meat is fine to eat, and what ive always heard there pretty much gone after the first frost...curtis
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: SouthMDShooter on September 23, 2007, 09:28:00 PM
ya the meat is fine to eat, and what ive always heard there pretty much gone after the first frost...curtis
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: sticshooter on September 23, 2007, 09:44:00 PM
YIKES!  :scared:    :eek:  I'd see that and wet myself! Guru your right looks like something outta the movies! Did ya eat the bushytail?<><.
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: tamure on September 23, 2007, 11:29:00 PM
Good Lord I am glad I live in the high desert!    :scared:  Mormon crickets got nothing on those things!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Nala on September 24, 2007, 03:07:00 AM
It is definitely a Botfly Larvae.  I have seen them plenty of times on squirrels when I used to hunt them.  Those things wriggling around in there give ya the willys.

I have never heard them called anything but WARBLES.

As for people, there was a show on Discovery a while back that talked about various parasitic infestations that humans had gotten.  Yes one of them was a Botfly larvae like the one pictured.  The guy had it removed and saved it in a jar.  They replay the show all the time, you should check it out.  I think the worst case they talked about on the show was from the Amazon area.  There are these fish down there that need UREA and they normally get into animals but this time ole Pablo was taking a leak in the water and one of these 5 inch fish was attracted to the Uric Acid in his urine and swam right upstream into "you know where!"  Once it gets in it uses its fins to anchor itself until it satisfies its needs.  They showed the fish in a jar and several scientists said they always heard it as an old wives tail but it finally proved true about the possibility of human infestation.
Talk about having a BAD day!!

Nala
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: Allan Hundeby on September 24, 2007, 03:40:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by zilla:
... Seems the horse fly bites to make a hole into the skin and deposits the egg by the hole.  
Woah!  Gives me a new perspective on my decision to just let bugs bite me so I won't spook game!
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: MrBadExample on September 24, 2007, 10:00:00 AM
Never seen those up here.  This was a bad thread to read after breakfast.... (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x172/MrBadExample_photos/barf.gif)
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: J-dog on September 24, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
Yeah I dont hunt them till it is cold and there has been frost. I have seen them before but never seen one come out. If I shot a squirrel and it had such a lump I wouldn't even pick them up. Just leave em lay.

J
Title: Re: Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
Post by: NDTerminator on September 24, 2007, 10:09:00 AM
Bot Fly. They move around under the skin as they develop. I saw a TV documentary where I a guy had one and you could see the damn thing moving around.  I'd rather fall in a tick nest than get a Bot Fly egg planted in me.  Yeesh....  :scared: