Looking for a screw-in 125 grain, two blade head.
Zwickey, or Magnus and why? Zwickey is running a few dollars less. Magnus is a tad wider.
Thanks
I've got some Magnus. They are not the real wide ones,but they don't look like great quality. I had also heard that they are not the quality that they once were. I'm not saying they are horrible,but I would give the Zwickey a try next time. I don't even know if you could get an adapter and magnus head that weighed 125. You could give the Eskilite at 110 and a 25 grain adapter a try for something close.
Both heads (Zwickey Eskalites and Magnus 2s in 5/16) are about 110-115 grains so they'll be 135-145 grains with a 25-30 grain aluminum adaptor. Both are good heads. Magnus are a little easier to sharpen IMO.
Go with Zwickey.
They did it 1st.
Magnus basically copied them.
both are good head though.
...plus using Zwickey is just cool.
QuoteOriginally posted by Orion:
Both heads (Zwickey Eskalites and Magnus 2s in 5/16) are about 110-115 grains so they'll be 135-145 grains with a 25-30 grain aluminum adaptor. Both are good heads. Magnus are a little easier to sharpen IMO.
I think the Magnus heads are easier to sharpen as well but the steel on Zwickey's might just be harder causing this.
The MAII's are huge
Don't know if there's a difference in steel hardness. I find it easier to sharpen Magnus because the edge is straight rather than curved, but can get either very sharp. I've used both.
rr: Actually the II is the smaller head, the I is the big one.
I use both....both sharpen easily, get deadly sharp and hold the edge. Zwick's are a tad cheaper to buy, but you can't go wrong with either one.
Have used both but Zwickey is a tougher head and slightly harder steel. Have used them for about 40 years and will continue to do so. Had a few Magnus tips curl on shoulder bones on deer and other than hitting rocks after pass throughs have had no failures on the part of Zwickey-either Eskimos or Deltas.
Looking at Eski-lites.
Wheels2,
I asked the same question a couple days ago. My post is a page or two back if you want to check those replies. Just bear in mind that some of the responses I got were glue-ons only. When you add an aluminum adapter you're going to gain 40 grains or so if its the long ones.
They are both great heads. Use whichever you want, get it sharp and post pix of the critters you kill.
ChuckC
Zwickey...because they are a great head, but mostly because Jack is one of the best guys around.
Like there advertisement says "There are Zwickeys in more trees in the US then any other head!" here is one of mine.
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And here is one that didn't go in a tree. Pass through on a doe,double lung,13 yds on the ground and powered by a 40# Leon Stewart Slammer.
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In case you couldn't tell,my vote is for the Zwickeys. Green is my favorite color........
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Go with Zwickey!
They just scream Trad!
Both Zwickey and Magnus are great broadheads. Zwickeys are priced less than Magnus. Magnus have a lifetime warranty. Magnus have a better factory grind. It seems to me that the Magnus is easier to sharpen. Heck, try 'em both and go with the one YOU like the best. :thumbsup: Hey Monkeyball, does that Eskimo (the one you used on the doe) have the bleeders ground off or are they still there? I can't tell from the picture. :confused:
I've found the Zwickeys to be stronger as well.I've had tips curl on Magnus.
I prefer the eclipse, but they are all pretty good heads. The quality of the magnus classic was a bit suspect last time I bought some. Maybe Thunder valley has improved since then?? The old magnus II (Narrower one) was excellent.
The eclipse cost a bit more, but they are a step up in quality IMHO. http://www.braveheartarchery.us/eclipse_broadheads.htm
Darcy :campfire:
SuperK,
Good eye buddy. I file them down into a half moon shape so that I can sharpen them to my liking.
Remember guys,wether it is a Zwickey or a Magnus,make sure it is hair picking sharp!
Good Shooting,
Craig
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Zwickey #1- file and a steel = shaving sharp
I shoot and like both heads, have kills with both. If you are strictly looking at two blade heads...my thoughts are to go with the wider head. I haven't had any problems with strength from either head. When it comes to four blades i find the Magnus easier to sharpen (their blades come out)
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I like them both. The Magnus is just a little bigger, but either one is great as long as they're sharp
Here is a Delta on a bear hunt.
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I have a three pack of Eskilites that are open but never used. I received them in a trade at some point and they are as new. Have anything to trade?? PM me w your address and I can get them to you. Package says 135g and they have aluminum adapters already in place from the factory.
Everyone has their feelings about head weight but I do not believe 10g +or- will be noticed by any but the most accomplished target archers. W hunting weight bows and arrows at hunting distances 10g is just not enough to change things at all. For the record - this is just my opinion - others may vary.
Bobby,
I just sent you an email....
I agree about the +/- 10 grains. I had a pair of Bear Razor heads on adapters and they shoot the same as the field points at 20 yards.
When I put them on my Easton Aftermaths...
When on 2018, they did OK but when on a 2117, they did dive a bit.
Zwickey heads are cooler. :D
Seriously the Zwickey heads fit my style nicely and I especially like the fixed bleeders. I usually end up epoxying/hot melting in the bleeders on other heads.
QuoteOriginally posted by Braveheart Archery:
Zwickey heads are cooler. :D
Seriously the Zwickey heads fit my style nicely and I especially like the fixed bleeders. I usually end up epoxying/hot melting in the bleeders on other heads.
X2 :readit:
Think Zwickeys would be a good choice.
I see no real difference between the two other than price. I don't buy new Magnus because of the price difference when compared to Zwickey. If I buy new, it's Zwickey only. But I like both heads equally well. Many years ago when they were similar in price I favored Magnus over Zwickey. Just not enough difference between the two to justify spending more money on one over the other for me.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bobby Urban:
So funny how this discussion remains civil here with some back and fourth as to why one makes their choice and on the LW it is a total bash fest and put down contest.
Most of this has been covered 1000 times but really with all the GREAT options and the "typical" game hunted it comes down to what you can tune well and more importantly brings you the most confidence.
I know like I know the sun rises in the east that two bladers work great and kill dead - I have done it with them many times but... Boy do I feel more confident with that nasty 3 blade head on the business end of my arrow come deerthirty and I hear leaves crunching. Just my thing - find yours, tune well and get them sharp. All the rest will take care of itself.
BTW - Lately I shoot 45@25 and get true pass thru shots with arrow in the ground and mostly shoot WW heads.
Well stated Mr. Bobby :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by BWD:
QuoteOriginally posted by Bobby Urban:
So funny how this discussion remains civil here with some back and fourth as to why one makes their choice and on the LW it is a total bash fest and put down contest.
Most of this has been covered 1000 times but really with all the GREAT options and the "typical" game hunted it comes down to what you can tune well and more importantly brings you the most confidence.
I know like I know the sun rises in the east that two bladers work great and kill dead - I have done it with them many times but... Boy do I feel more confident with that nasty 3 blade head on the business end of my arrow come deerthirty and I hear leaves crunching. Just my thing - find yours, tune well and get them sharp. All the rest will take care of itself.
BTW - Lately I shoot 45@25 and get true pass thru shots with arrow in the ground and mostly shoot WW heads.
Well stated Mr. Bobby :thumbsup: [/b]
Here! Here! on the 'other sites' comment. Also, ever notice how TradGang doesn't allow the trashing of other site or their owners? Maybe those other sites really aren't about bowhunting.
Zwickey's!
I prefer Magnus. I have found them to be much easier to sharpen.
I think if one is easier to sharpen than the other, it may have something to do with the sharpening technique of that person. I have always recommended the Eskimo for those without much broadhead sharpening experience, because I have seen them be able to get them shaving sharp with just a file, a diamond hone and an old belt. Some of the Magnus heads we had from the past had harder metal and took more determination than some newbies were able to put out. That may no longer be an issue with them. I have found that it was easier for me to get arrows with Eskimos to fly perfect, for people I set up than the wide Magnus heads that I had an abundance of. I also found that I could get the Zwickey Delta to fly slightly better in the wind, but that could just be something with my arrows. My only personal issue with Zwickys were that I preferred to use slighter stiffer cedar shafts, so I needed 160 grain heads.
I'm not tickled with the adapters in zwickeys. I used them early on (prewood days) and found less than half were true.
I havent used them in a LONG time so hopefully thats changed.
I have however stayed with my eskimos and they've done great for me over the years! no sense in changing something that works so well.
A bash fest over magnus vs zwickey on another site???
Thank God for Tradgang......Geezzzz how idiotic folks will act just cause they have a key board.
I prefer Zwickeys..4 blade Ds....grew up and grew as a bow hunter using them....got an old blue that's killed 14 whitetail and one hog.....
But that doesn't mean I'm going to fight with Roger Norris over it.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
As far as the adapters I've always mounted my own...no issues.
lol
When i first was introduced to trad bows, Zwickeys were the ticket, and i have always thought they were the way to go because they just LOOK like the ones i ought to use; first impressions are hard to change. i am interested in the 4 blade Magnus Stinger or a Zwickey with bleeders. I am confident they will each work fine.
Both great heads. Get them sharp, it won't matter.
My dads old cedar arrows had Zwicky's on them. So do mine now. Just kind of a tradition for me and they work. I have tried Magnus and they put deer down for me also. I do like Zwicky green tho.