Just wondering if there have been many P&Y bucks taken, in modern times, with a selfbow ??
What's modern times, I don't know, maybe since 1950 or so... Time doesn't really matter that much..
Anyone know of one or a dozen ????
Pat, Thad Beckum of South East GA killed a 185#, 138 3/8" P&Y buck in GA with homemade primitive archery gear.
There is an article by Billy Berger about Thad Beckum that in the most recent PA magazine.
I think I kill one every month in my daydreams of this coming fall...
-Jeremy :coffee:
FYI the type of Bow doesn't matter.
I saw that article Pat, it was very interesting. He must be quite a hunter.. That's what prompted the question..
Apparently it's not something that's done very often....
I have only killed one animal in my life with a selfbow, a warthog in Africa.
Now, I hope to change that this season......especially since I got these in the St Jude Auction a few days ago!
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/BD8D91DD-417C-43E0-B288-D2FDD23BB22C_zpslqc7c0yc.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/BD8D91DD-417C-43E0-B288-D2FDD23BB22C_zpslqc7c0yc.jpg.html)
I have been daydreaming for quite some time about killing an animal with a stone point, and it just does not seem "right" to do it with anything other than an all wood bow!
Bisch
Though not really common, I believe a greater ratio of those using selfbows kill more P&Y bucks than those using glass backed bows. None of those who have done it around here "register our deer with P&Y" so they technically are not P&Y deer. However, I know Mark Baker, Hunter Rung, and myself have all taken whitetails with selfbows that would qualify, should we choose to enter them. I think Doug Campbell and Lenny Brown have also done it, but am not positive. That's 5 of approximately 10-12 people I know who hunt with selfbowss in this part of Montana
"FYI the type of Bow doesn't matter."
Anyone comparing modern compounds with selfbows has to be joking...
Walt I thought there was probably quite a few out there... It was just something that I had not heard about until I read the article in the latest PA..
Congrats on your deer and other game..
Get 'em Bisch !!!
A selfbow will kill a trophy deer just as dead as a modern compound! Actually I have a hard time calling a compound a bow anyway.
I have a friend here in TX that has taken a deer that would qualify for P&Y with a selfbow and stone point. I would bet, like Walt said above, that there are a lot more of them out there than you would think.
Bisch
Not to brag just the fact, I did kill a p&y buck in 2000 witha sinew backed Osage bow, river cane arrow and a jay Massey style broadhead,and yes I did register him to pay homage to the animal. That's what p&y was intended to do.
I'm pretty sure, Richard Jackson from near Terre Haute, In. has shot a few. He's a member here, and is a very fine artist and craftsman, to say the least and hunter! A fine gentleman, too!
I've managed to tag a few over the years, my first is registered, none of the others are.
However, if I am ever so lucky as to take one with a self bow I just might reconsider..
:thumbsup: Pat
Bisch, is this the year ????
Didn't Mark Mitten (Mike Mittens brother) kill a B&C with primitive gear ?
Yes he did, a magnificent animal!
My brother Mark took his B.C. class buck with a stone head, but he used his 75# Great Northern bush bow. Mike
I've done it. Four times. Actually, I didn't kill my first Pope and Young until I started shooting selfbows.
justin
Well done Justin !!! That's quite an accomplishment..
If I recall correctly Marks buck went around 187" and was an outstanding animal.. You guys are great bowhunters !
I think gun meant that type of bow doesn't matter for purposes of P&Y recording. I am very interested in who has bagged them myself but the guys who have done also seem to be the types who don't go online to boast about it.
You're probably right BBJ but I have become very interested in selfbows and just haven't noticed many hunting with them... Guess I was looking hard enough since there seems to be quite a few that have dedicated themselves to the wooden bow.
How cool is that ??
I know a gentleman who killed a huge 11 pointer that me and 2 other big dudes had to help drag,, monster rack but I don't measure them but easily as big as the biggest 10's I seen on walls..
its a different state of mind I think with folks that use primitive bows because this deer got butchered, the pelt got done and the rack got cut off its head with a hack saw and its with all the other racks this fella has harvested through out the years,, no real pics, and no measurements..
I have to admit if I shot a world class buck I'd pretty much do the same I'm not really into it for people to go wow, I honestly think when I started hunting trad is when I started thinking this way.
BUT I believe Paul Brunner had some nice primitive harvests,, the 8th dwarf--> wish he still posted.
I shot this one from the ground, with an osage selfbow, and rivercane arrows with obsidian heads. Don't know if he would make P&Y, but he weighed over 300 pounds. He made my book, and yielded over 150 pounds of great tasting meat.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7415/11162346886_249d584238_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/i1nWQE) 1999 obsidian point buck (https://flic.kr/p/i1nWQE) by okawbow (https://www.flickr.com/people//) , on Flickr
This is a buck Kelly G shot with a selfbow....
It was a toad!!!
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/meand1sttraddeer_zpsb1d961b1.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/coaster500/media/meand1sttraddeer_zpsb1d961b1.jpg.html)
that's a nice deer right there,, Coaster your from a town I never been to but love,,,, luv my stingray bass made there.
That was Kelly's first selfbow. I think he built the bow when he was in Iraq.