I was just wanting to know if anybody uses two nock points one above and one below the arrow and if they find any benefit from it. I saw a couple at one of our indoor ranges here. I shoot three finger below so I don't know if it would matter or not. Just curious.
If you shoot 3 under you especially should use 2 . I like 2 when hunting so I don't worry about my arrow sliding down the string .
I have been tying on two nock points for around 20 years.It will help to keep arrow from sliding down the string on release.You can probably find a slo-mo video on youtube,you might be able to see it happen.How tight are your nocks,too tight of a nock can also effect accuracy.It can help with 3 under also.Just have always done it this way.I like to have my nocks lightly snap on and come off easily.
I've seen enough slo-mo video of arrows sliding down the string to convince me it's a good idea. Regardless, there's no down side to using two nock points.
I have been shooting a new string and while breaking it in, I had only tied the lower nock pt kind of loose. As I shot, it would spin down and create a larger gap between the two nock pts. Without a doubt it changed my pt of impact by as much as a few inches yet it only separated by no more than 1/2"
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QuoteOriginally posted by JRY309:
I have been tying on two nock points for around 20 years.It will help to keep arrow from sliding down the string on release.You can probably find a slo-mo video on youtube,you might be able to see it happen.How tight are your nocks,too tight of a nock can also effect accuracy.It can help with 3 under also.Just have always done it this way.I like to have my nocks lightly snap on and come off easily.
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Yep, size the nocks. I use a small knot on the bottom and a slightly larger on the top. This keeps the arrow from sliding fown on release, but a solid stop on the top for three under.
Ken Beck of Black Widow has been an advocate of the to Nock system for years especially for shooters with a long draw length.
Always use two.
Are those using two nocks all three under shooters? Do split shooters get the same benefit?
I don't see a down side to two nock points. Split or three under it prevents nock slippage.
I've seen it and wondered how useful it really is, sounds like it is worth doing. TNX for posting the topic OP.
I shoot split and have noticed more consistent flight with two nock points, especially when bare shaft tuning.
I tie in one nock when I make a new string, shoot the string in and set my brace height and final tune, then tie in the second nock. Works great when hunting, (or target or stumping) the arrow is always in the right place on the string and no worries. I always carry a spare string all ready to go. I shoot split finger with a tab.
I shot a single nock point for years.. I changed to a double nock set and my groups got tighter immediately.. I will only shoot a double nock set from now on... It helps for sure...
I use two. Helps me.
QuoteOriginally posted by Graps:
If you shoot 3 under you especially should use 2 . I like 2 when hunting so I don't worry about my arrow sliding down the string .
My thoughts exactly. I shoot 3 under and get better, more consistent arrow flight by doing so.
I shoot split finger and use two.
Re read what Katman said....I second that..
Re read what Katman said....I second that..
I started using two nock pts.to prevent my arrow from falling to the ground with the bow and arrow hanging on a hook in the treestand. Without an arrow holder the arrow was being blown off the rest in windy conditions. The lower nock pt. will pinch the dangling arrow just enough to keep it from falling. I did not notice any difference in arrow flight.
In hunting situation (first arrow missed) ,(adrenalin rush) maybe you can put second arrow below bottom nock point and make failure ? What you think ?
If you make the bottom nock slightly larger than the top nocking point, AND if you practice feeling it with your thumb when you nock an arrow without looking, it becomes quite easy to nock an arrow in a rush with two nocking points. However, you absolutely need to handle the arrow by the nock. This is easier to do with indexed nocks like Mercuries and Classics. It is a lot easier to get a hold on that nock if your arrows are in a back quiver.
Anyone know a great method for tying on knocks that won't unravel or roll itself down the serving?
whip_tie_adjustable_nocking_point: http://youtu.be/1YlYqDiJN8U
Actually , when you pull hard both ends , nock stay on place without any chance to move
Two nock points for me too. I shoot three-under, but why would it make any difference for three-under or split? Once your fingers are off the string it's all the same.
https://plus.google.com/photos/116451859615119061133/albums/5440061363494899889?banner=pwa
Here's a link to some videos that show the nock movement at release with only one nocking point. I tie on two with a series of opposing overhand knots, finish with a granny, snip, and burn. Easy and adjustable. :archer2:
Tomorrow i will put second nock point . Thanks for video !!!!
QuoteOriginally posted by bowfanatik:
whip_tie_adjustable_nocking_point: http://youtu.be/1YlYqDiJN8U
Actually , when you pull hard both ends , nock stay on place without any chance to move
I use a small piece, 1", of a stirring straw and tie a nail knot, same as described in video but substitute straw for pencil. Takes less than a minute to tie and twists up/down. Also lays flat and looks neat, always had trouble with the alternate overhand knot method laying flat and clean looking.
I've always used 2 nocks, I shoot 3 under, as already stated it keeps the arrow from sliding down the string, and i use the bottom nock as a reference on where my index finger is on the string when I draw so as to not pinch the arrow on the string. I shoot with a damascus glove so I have a little better feel, my personal preference.
Howard Hill from what I've read used a lower nocking point. this would prevent the arrow from slipping down and it would be less likely to slip upwards. I am going to give it a try. Anyone else have experience with it this way?
Been doing them this way since Hector was a pup. No confusion about where to nock and the arrow slides right in where it needs to be.
Whether you nock above or below doesn't matter, just tie to suit.
No slipping either.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/48.jpg)
Charlie, I like you're set up as I frog at night and have to use caution not to nock above or below.
I'm gonna give it a try on my frog bow. Nicely done. I also thought the gentleman that did the Youtube vid above did an excellent job.
Thanks for all to response. I shoot 3 finger and my arrows fit good. They snap in and when I turn the bow horizontal and tap the string they come off easily. But I do see the point about creating consistency and less worry about if your arrow is nocked in the correct place before the shot. Less worries more confidence in consistency. I that makes any sense.
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Been doing them this way since Hector was a pup. No confusion about where to nock and the arrow slides right in where it needs to be.
Whether you nock above or below doesn't matter, just tie to suit.
No slipping either.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/48.jpg)
Link to the build along
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000078;p=1
I was thinking about how to nock above with a double nock....I know I'd screw it up, this would virtually eliminate it and I have a pile of number 4 laying around to do it with! Thanks Charlie!
QuoteOriginally posted by brbowhunter:
I shot a single nock point for years.. I changed to a double nock set and my groups got tighter immediately.. I will only shoot a double nock set from now on... It helps for sure...
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