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Title: strike plate and rest material
Post by: canuck4570 on May 27, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
I have velcro for my strike and rest material

read that hard martial is better

would love to here your opinion

thanks Canuck
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Alexander Traditional on May 27, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
I've just been using the stick on calf hair strike plate and rest in one. The bows that I have that have the velcro do just fine though.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Matty on May 27, 2014, 11:12:00 PM
I've shot many many bows with Velcro.
Lasts a while and is easily replaced. And rediculously cheap.
I do happen to like calf hair and seal skin as well
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: canuck4570 on May 27, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
guess I am going to stay with velcro

I have put it on my whip since I have it and it must have over 5000 shots on it and the velcro is like new
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: 2bird on May 27, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
Thick leather is what a lot if people use. Nothing wrong with Velcro though. I use bearhair on my rest and thick leather for my striker plate, tooth picks behind both to make the smallest contact points as possible.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: McDave on May 27, 2014, 11:18:00 PM
It isn't that hard or soft material is better. It's a way of fine tuning your bow. For a RH shooter, a soft material for the strike plate, such as a rug rest, like a Martin rug rest, will move the point of impact to the right. A soft material for the shelf will move the point of impact down.

A medium material, such as Velcro, will start moving the point of impact back to the left/up.  A hard material, such as plain leather, will move the POI further left/up.

My recommendation would be to stick with whatever material the bow comes with until you're sure your form is correct. It doesn't do any good to get a soft strike plate to move the POI to the right if the real reason you're hitting left is because you're not getting your elbow back behind the arrow at full draw.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: canuck4570 on May 27, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
I will try this tooth pick set up under the velcro and see if it makes a difference
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on May 27, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
I think you are going to find if you tune your arrows to velcro, then switch to a hard leather you may need to do some more tuning...... the soft velcro acts like a berger button and gives a bit. Where a hard strike doesn't.

The one thing i like about calves hair or velcro is that it is quieter on the draw that a hard strike material. I'm using stingray hide on my hunting bow right now, and i got busted a couple times hunting hogs in real close. when i was drawing, it made a slight hiss that velcro or calf hair doesn't make. i've had the same issue with hard leather making noise.

food for thought... Kirk
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: canuck4570 on May 27, 2014, 11:24:00 PM
my bow shoots great with velcro

may be should not mess with it....
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: nineworlds9 on May 27, 2014, 11:33:00 PM
I like Velcro, seal skin, or beaver tail.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: 2bird on May 27, 2014, 11:39:00 PM
Well experiment if you want, and in the end if you don't like the other options put the Velcro back on... I think putting tooth picks under the rest and striker plate is going to do nothing but help you, it helped me a bunch...

McDave is 100% correct , don't build up your shelf/striker plate to correct firm issuse
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: cahaba on May 28, 2014, 12:48:00 AM
I use Velcro or moleskin. I had a thick leather side plate on one of my longbows and my arrows weren't fine tuned. I replaced it with thin moleskin and my arrows paper tuned perfectly.
Not to many years ago archers like Mr. Hill shot their longbows without any side plate material.
Thinner or no material on the side plate gets narrow Hill style bows closer to center cut and helps a lot with tuning and makes them not as finicky with spine.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Machino on May 28, 2014, 01:20:00 AM
I have been using beaver tail and I don't think there is anything more durable.  Applied with barge cement.  It is a nice change from the velcro I also had problems with.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: canuck4570 on May 28, 2014, 07:29:00 AM
thanks guys

appreciated
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Paul_R on May 28, 2014, 08:13:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
 I'm using stingray hide on my hunting bow right now, and i got busted a couple times hunting hogs in real close. when i was drawing, it made a slight hiss that velcro or calf hair doesn't make. i've had the same issue with hard leather making noise.

food for thought... Kirk
Same thing happened to me with stingray. It sounded like I was dragging an arrow over gravel and I realized that's exactly what I was doing!    ;)
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Terry Green on May 28, 2014, 08:54:00 AM
Velcro can be noisy with some arrows. .

best I've found is calf hair for silence and durability
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Bladepeek on May 28, 2014, 10:02:00 AM
What about trying a combination? Most of my shelf and side plate material is Velcro, but what about putting down a thin piece of felt or soft leather with sealskin over it?

In fact, I think I am going to try that just for grins and chuckles. Seems like it ought to work well.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: mike g on May 28, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
With proper spined Arrows, your strike plate should last dang near forever....
  My Hill bow is 8 years old and I have the original strike plate on it....
  And I have thought about trying none at all....
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Randy Koleno on May 28, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
Another Velcro user here. I did just get some Beaver Tail I may try, but I really have no good reason to change.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Bowwild on May 28, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
On a bow I just set up I'm using leather as the side plate and velcro on the shelf.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: The Night Stalker on May 28, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
Exactly what McDave said.
Saved me from typing it out.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Terry Green on May 28, 2014, 05:27:00 PM
Guess I didn't really explain well when I said noisy...running 90MPH it happens.

On some arrows I've found Velcro to be noisy *on the draw*.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: BowMIke on May 29, 2014, 07:52:00 AM
Seal skin is what I prefer. Quiet and durable. Unfortunately a little hard to find, but I have enough to last me for years.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: damascusdave on May 29, 2014, 09:31:00 AM
One advantage of living in Canada is that we can legitimately buy sealskin here

DDave
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: two4hooking on May 29, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
I dispensed with my side plate on my HIll Tembo.  I may just keep it off too.  real thin leather on the shelf but that is it.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: tracker12 on May 29, 2014, 11:53:00 AM
Some great info in this tread. Did not know the strike plate and shelf material had that much effect.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: canuck4570 on May 29, 2014, 11:57:00 AM
like mike g said

my strike plate and shelf  plate are like new after many arrows shot

must be a well tuned arrow.....
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Wheels2 on May 29, 2014, 12:36:00 PM
I have a metal riser but set it up with the felt pads used on the bottom of chair legs and furniture.
Using a razor blade, I can taper it to a peak for both rest and strike plate.
Title: Re: strike plate and rest material
Post by: Mike89 on May 29, 2014, 07:05:00 PM
Keep in mind that the thickness of your strike plate will change the arrow spine your bow likes.  

My arrows are a little weak with light heads, so I stuck a rolled up piece of paper behind the strike plate (having no toothpicks to hand) and was able to improve my arrow flight significantly.  

Playing with the stu miller spine calculator can give you an idea of how much difference strike plate stiffness changes can make