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Title: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: ron w on April 11, 2014, 12:30:00 PM
Everybody likes something different   :campfire:      :coffee:
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Stumpkiller on April 11, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
It can throw a properly heavy arrow far enough that it will reliably kill a deer at 20 yards.  Is quiet, is or can be dulled down to blend in with surroundings.

That about covers it.  The bow is just the mechanism to get the arrow to where it will do the most harm.

 :archer2:
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: dbd870 on April 11, 2014, 12:57:00 PM
Great answer Stumpkiller.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Butchie on April 11, 2014, 01:01:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by dbd870:
Great answer Stumpkiller.
x2...Quiet above all else for me!
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: nineworlds9 on April 11, 2014, 01:05:00 PM
I have tried a mess of bows in the last couple years.  I would say #1 to me is it needs to have the satisfactory tone/ level of quietness on the shot as perceived by me.  This is easier to achieve in a longbow, hence I gravitate toward longbows/ hybrids.  However, I have discovered that this can also be achieved in a recurve bow with minimal intervention/ add ons if said bow is well designed/tillered, and also the recipe often involves static tips.  Also tied in with quietness is the requisite limb stability to prevent or minimize any undue limb oscillation/ resonance...which contributes to a reactive shot and or perception of handshock.  Second I would say I would like the bow to be outstanding in cast or dynamic efficiency for its given weight- I.e. a bow that has very little arrow drop at 10gpp within 30 yds or less.  That is why I also tend to favor r/d or hybrid longbows, or a well designed recurve.  To me, Hill styles have a certain simplicity and romance to them, however I do not find myself satisfied with their cast/trajectory unless I am shooting a higher draw weight than I otherwise would.  Thirdly, I care about the grip.  I favor at minimum some type of locator.  I like low or medium wrist and I like a grip, even if low wrist, that has a nice palm swell or shape that allows the force of the draw to be focused on the strongest/most stable part of the hand.  The throat of the grip should be large enough that my hand can wrap around comfortably without my fingers overlapping or interfering with each other.  Fourth I would consider length.  This though is heavily tied into overall design and function..I enjoy bows from 70" to 56" but each bow must be optimized for its given length.  I have discovered that the rare 'short bow' may perform admirably if the recipe is correct.  But yes length does help with stability/smoothness so I do tend to favor bows 60-64".  The rest largely involves aesthetics.  I went through a phase of enjoying metal riser/ILF bows.  While they are highly functional/durable, such as for bow fishing or rough hunting conditions, and some top performers are to be found among the adjustable/ factory style bows, I find them too impersonal and so I favor handmade 1pc or bolt down wood/boo/glass (or carbon) or selfbows for hunting purposes.  To me the Stickbow is more than a tool, it is an embodiment of our primitive roots and a love of simplicity and an ethic that values the challenges in life and not merely contemporary instant gratification.

Bow choice is highly individual.  One man's go to may be the last thing the next guy wants to shoot.  I will say that the cream rises to the surface out there in bowyer-land LOL.  Some are better bow-chefs than others    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on April 11, 2014, 01:15:00 PM
I think a 60" hybrid long bow has gotta be my first choice.  Reasons?   Narrow deep core limbs, push pull stringing capability, the design allows a smooth draw to longer draw lengths with a good string angle & reasonably compact length. The long bow shape with the tips pointed straight seems to slip through the brush much easier than a recurve for me..... and last but not least.... they are quiet when you drop the string.

BTW.... I GOTTA have purple cat whiskers too...

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Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: kill shot on April 11, 2014, 01:37:00 PM
I shot several bows of the same make and poundage. None are exactly the same. I guess when you try a bow you can just tell.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: DaveT1963 on April 11, 2014, 02:04:00 PM
For me, the number one thing I look for is does it cast an arrow where I naturally look.  Yes I can manipulate rest material, nock point and brace height, but there are jsut some bows that I pick up and no matter what arrow I put on the string (within reason) what rest material I use, what brace height, it just seems to work with my vision/face/anchor and puts the arrow where I look.  I can't define what it is that makes this happen, probably a combination of things, but I know it when I shoot it.

After that I want a bow that is quiet, stable (I hate vibration in the limbs)and can cast a heavy hunting arrow with at least 175 fps (10-12 grains per inch).

For me this seems to be JD Berry Bows, my Thunderhorn 3 piece, and my Bruin Recurve.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on April 11, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
Quiet, Compact, Durable & Dependable...
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Frank V on April 11, 2014, 02:06:00 PM
I shoot several bows, the one I take the most is a Howard Hill Big5, I like recurves too & hunt with several, Blacktail Elite, Fox High Sierra, Bear Grizzly, Bear Kodiak Hunter.
  I can't restrict mysel to one bow, I like several.    :scared:   I hunt with bows in the 50-60lb range.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: riverrat 2 on April 11, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
A quiet bow that has a flat shooting trajectory.
A bow that I am absolutely confident shooting.
A durable bow,with a weatherproof finish.
A bow that packs a punch,and likes a heavy arrow.
A bow that can shoot very fast,and remain stable.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: NBK on April 11, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
It has to be pretty.
I spend too much time sitting in a tree to be staring at an ugly bow all day.
Oh yeah, quiet, durable, yada, yada...

I'm so shallow.

Seriously though, I've come to prefer a mild r/d longbow close to a d shape when strung.  62" or longer, about 55 lbs with a slight locator grip, one or two piece for light carrying, narrow thick core that's subdued in color.  It can be fancy in appearance but very simple in design.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: ron w on April 11, 2014, 03:36:00 PM
Good answers so far.....some long, some short, just like our bows.....   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on April 11, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
This year, my choice is my 64" Stewart LS.  Great shooter. For me, I don't want to hunt with a bow that has fancy wood. This way, I won't feel bad should the bow get dinged.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Red Beastmaster on April 11, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Light in hand ranks pretty high with me. I love my takedown recurve with bowquiver but it's a load to carry stillhunting all day. I'd much rather hunt with a longbow or hybrid with bowquiver.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Roger Norris on April 11, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
Light in the hand...I like a longbow rather than a full size riserd recurve.

Dull. I have no use for a shiny, beautiful bow. Sorry. Flat green or brown.

Easy to shoot....this has a lot to do with the grip. If the grip doesn't fit me, the finest bow in the world is lost on me.

Quiet. It has to have that dull "thump" that you feel more than hear...

My Northern Mist Baraga fills that bill
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: ron w on April 11, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
"Sorry, flat green or brown" . No need to apologize, I painted mine camo.....lol!
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: hawkeye n pa on April 11, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
A easy shooting bow thats quiet and smooth, usually in a 60" length for me.   175 fps has put alot of meat in the freezer.  BTW my bows are also painted.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on April 11, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Roger Norris:
Light in the hand...I like a longbow rather than a full size riserd recurve.

Dull. I have no use for a shiny, beautiful bow. Sorry. Flat green or brown.

Easy to shoot....this has a lot to do with the grip. If the grip doesn't fit me, the finest bow in the world is lost on me.

Quiet. It has to have that dull "thump" that you feel more than hear...

X2


My Northern Mist Baraga fills that bill
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: awbowman on April 11, 2014, 08:26:00 PM
Light longbow that's quiet and capable of decent trajectory up to 25 yards.  Likes 10-11 GPP arrows.

Sounds like my Super D
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: damascusdave on April 11, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
I tend toward a preferred arrow/broadhead combo and then pick whatever bow I am shooting it best with at the time

DDave
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: overbo on April 11, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
Ease to shoot accurately w/!

All else doesn't matter
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Sam McMichael on April 11, 2014, 10:12:00 PM
I have 2 Hill bows that do it for me. One is my Wesley Special. It is 68" long, and is very smooth. I think it is more forgiving of minor form issues than the recurves I used to shoot. However, I had a shoulder injury several years ago, so it's 65# draw is still a bit too heavy. I can only shoot it about 30 times at this point.

Meanwhile, I have been using my 68" Cheetah at 55#. It, too, is very smooth and forgiving.

Both are quiet and shoot wood arrows very well. Hand shock is not an issue with firm, low grip. Being light in the hand is also something I like about them. Aesthetically and functionally, they suit my style wonderfully.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: ksbowman on April 11, 2014, 10:27:00 PM
I like 60-64" my favorite is 62". 55-65#with 57# my favorite. Good mass weight to help steady and fast and flat shooting to make up for a little error in distance estimation. Right now a Wing Thunderbird 62" fits the bill.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: on April 12, 2014, 12:00:00 AM
Your needs may all vary, but for me it is not what, but who, James Berry.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Thumper Dunker on April 12, 2014, 12:58:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by riverrat 2:
A quiet bow that has a flat shooting trajectory.
A bow that I am absolutely confident shooting.
A durable bow,with a weatherproof finish.
A bow that packs a punch,and likes a heavy arrow.
A bow that can shoot very fast,and remain stable.
What he said
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: lbshooter on April 12, 2014, 08:17:00 AM
I have a buck of different styles of bow but my hunting bow is chosen for "first shot" accuracy under any of the circumstances or positions I'm likely to encounter.  No thought required except for complete focus on the animal, and getting set up for a clean shot.  For the last 30 years or so my Howard Hill bows have best filled that bill for me.Nothing fancy, 50-60#, 10gr/# arrow weight,  68" length, couple of cat wiskers, and either a matte finish or an un-buffed coating of paste wax if the bow is  glossy.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Steve Jr on April 12, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
I'm really liking my 60" NM Baraga I picked up here in the classifieds last year. It's extremely smooth drawing , loves heavy arrows it's quieter than a Church mouse and even with a quiver full of arrows it's light. Oh and I shot a nice doe with it last season    :goldtooth:
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Frank V on April 12, 2014, 06:44:00 PM
I like a pretty bow too, I've sat on stands with nothing going on & been able to admire a nice bow that's made out of nice wood with graceful lines, & or a nice old Bear bow & just admire it.   ;)
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on April 12, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
Ron, I want a bow that Kills deer.  I want it to smell like apples to attract them and then be lethal.

Still looking for that bow though, so far only the arrows do the dirty work    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: LeeNY on April 13, 2014, 02:13:00 AM
Only one word "Quiet". I'll make the other mistakes.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: GreyGoose on April 13, 2014, 06:28:00 AM
Like Napoleon's preferred general: the one that's lucky!
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: ron w on April 13, 2014, 11:27:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by LeeNY:
Only one word "Quiet". I'll make the other mistakes.
:biglaugh:  The mistakes you don't make I'll take care of........I like quiet also!!
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: elkslayer4x5 on April 13, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
I prefer recuves over long bows, just personal choice. That said, I want a least a 62" bow that fits my hand, and shoots where I point, quiet, of course. Around 55# at my draw.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Frenchymanny on April 13, 2014, 01:37:00 PM
A bow fun to shoot, so I can practice a lot with it and be ready for the hunt

F-Manny
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Wudstix on April 13, 2014, 07:15:00 PM
Good hand fit, 60-62" hunting weight 63-67# and throws a heavy arrow with authority and quietly.  Pretty ain't bad either.
Title: Re: What makes a hunting bow for you?
Post by: Gdpolk on April 13, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
It has to be quiet, reliable, consistent, and have that just right feel that I cant put into words.