I just ordered one for my 50@28 Kodiak Magnum. Anyone have any input on this particular string?
Super duper quiet. I have one on a Shrew longbow. Absolutely love it.
Use one on my Dakota pro hunter and my A&H. Both bows are around 46-47 lbs.
I've got one on my Thunderstick MOAB, great string. Very quiet.
Have one on my Bob Lee Ultimate, you won't be disappointed, my experience it quiets the bow and increased the speed.
Absolutely outstanding strings. The increase in performance and the decrease in noise are both quite good. Plus the customer service is the best.
I use one for my 45 lbs Caribow Peregrine, with which I shoot 10 to 11 gpp woodies. It performs absolutely fantastic. I understood from Pierre that his 6 strands strings are meant for some heavier arrows and I absolutely agree. Hard to beat in every aspect and highly recommended! :clapper:
I'm definately a fan! quick and quiet!
Agree with all above! Have one on my 47# longbow.
Have their 6 strand strings on a bunch of bows. Great strings.
I have been thinking about getting one for a new to me bow. I like making my own strings though....
How do they get the serving thick enough to fit nocks?
That's the only string I've shot since they came out.
Blaino, They're double served and if you tell them what type nock you use they'll pick the appropriate diameter serving to make the fit perfect.
I don't usually run bows light enough to shoot them, but they definitely help speed up the high 40s bows.
I have used them a lot on my 50# bows. 2 years ago I made the move to their 8 strand. No reason just did-really like the strings.
The six strands SBD strings are suitable for bows till 53 lbs. If you go above, you need a 8 strand, which goes till 63 lbs. Above the 63 lbs you need a 10 strands.
However, when I shoot 9gpp or less out of my 45 to 48 bows, I prefer a 8 strand. A six strand makes that set-up a little bit too nervous.
I've tried them on a few different bows, and have always noticed a bit more performance, and a quieter, smoother shot! Excellent strings IMO.
For sub 53# bows they work great. Just mind your broadheads LOL.
No offense intended to anyone, but I'm not buyin' that 53 # thing. I've been using 6 strand ultra cam for several years now, from bows up to 63#. Never a problem. OK, when I make a string for someone else, I usually use 450+ or 10 strands of ultra cam, simply so they don't hear from some know it all about how the string is too thin. But, my own bows have thousands of shots out of 6 stranders. I will admit this: for decades, I've changed strings at the first sign of any wear or fraying. I have changed strings at the end of every elk season and never hesitate to build a string to replace any one that I feel might not be ok. If you are the kind who wants to tie up a battleship and never have a doubt, then make a big 'un. Otherwise, 6 strands of the really good material seems to be plenty.
Tom, I'm not familiar with the diameter of 450+ or ultracam, which obviously affects the strength as well as the type of material(sk75, sk78, sk90 etc.)
I wonder if SBD string will eventually go to use the new 8190 which is sk90 dyneema and I believe is stronger per weight than d-10.
I've been using 10 strands of 8125, which I think is only slightly thicker than a 6 strand d-10, maybe the same as 8 strand, and I'm serving with .030 BCY halo serving.
This seems to give a good but fairly loose nock fit without any padding of th eserving area.
I sometimes pad the loops but not with more than 2-4 strand of 8125 if I bother at all.
FWIW I weighed a 16strand 8125 string with silencers and brass nock at 170grains and a 10strand 8125 with no silencers and tied on ock at 70grains.
That alone must be worth a few FPS.
Ben,
Depending on whose ad you read, ultra cam and 450+ premium both have between 125 and 150# breaking strength per strand. I've not considered that something that needs to be nailed down, because strings don't fail by being jerked apart end-to-end. I think poor construction, unequal tension between strands, and abrasion are what fails a string. Ultra cam is as narrow as any material I've seen and 450+ approaches B50 in diameter. But both are lighter than B50. I usually find a well made 14 strand B50 string with silencers will weigh in at 175-200 grains. I can do the same thing with 6 strands of ultra cam with 6-8 strands of B50 padding in the loops and come in below 100 grains consistently. 8 strands of 450+ for the same bow would weigh about 110-115 gr. In my experience, the low-stretch materials take less silencing, and that also contributes to the mass difference. It's almost never a part of these discussions but I am convinced that cutting string mass in half simply has to be right there with low stretch as a significant difference in energy transfer to the shaft.
I have not experimented with other string materials at all. I have a lifetime supply of B50 in a lot of colors, and early on I settled on Ultra Cam for the skinniest string, and 450+ because it's easier to make the nocks fit better. When I run out of those materials, I'll try some other stuff!
I like the 6 strand Ultra from a performance and quietness standpoint, but I have had trouble getting the darn things to quit stretching. I currently have one I had built for a 60" recurve, put it on and it was fine, got it shot in and things were looking good. The bow sat on the rack strung for a few months, and when I went to use it, I could tell right away by looking at it that the brace height was way low. I twisted it up as much as I dared without getting it all kinked up and it was still too low. At that point I decided to untwist it as far as I could and put it on my 62' bow. That string has now settled into about 3/8" higher brace height than I usually shoot on the bow, but it is super quiet and really zips an arrow. I'm going to run with it like that see what happens.
As a side note, one of the few negatives I see with a real skinny string is that you have a pretty narrow margin for error with the length, when it is built. When it is that skinny with few strands you hardly gain or loose any length by twisting or untwisting the string. You need to be pretty darn close with length to begin with.