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Title: Suggest
Post by: Scattergun2570 on March 23, 2014, 09:26:00 PM
I had to get rid of my Savannah..no matter what I do,,I cannot seem to get that fishtailing arrow to straighten out. I am tired of trying arrows and tips etc..been goin on for almost 18months..I am done!

I want some suggestions on a bow that isn`t expensive,but a good quiet bow.. I only knew my Savannah which makes me kinda lean towards reflex deflex designs. Although I am not opposed to a recurve,after all,the Savannah just wouldn't work for me. I wonder if it induced torque,grip not fitting me? Who knows,,anyway,its going. Any suggestions on a new bow for me?
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Post by: Scattergun2570 on March 23, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
bump
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Post by: JAG on March 23, 2014, 11:15:00 PM
Build yourself a Selfbow!
Johnny & Kuri (the Red Dog)
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Post by: JEFF B on March 23, 2014, 11:54:00 PM
x2 what Brother Jag said
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Post by: on March 23, 2014, 11:56:00 PM
Maddog Prairie Predator.  Although I have seen the Savannas shoot straight arrows.  Have Mike suggest an arrow for the bow.  Be certain that shooting specs you give are accurate.
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Post by: mike g on March 24, 2014, 10:24:00 AM
Call Dave at Wilderness custom Arrows....
   He's on the sponsors list.
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on March 24, 2014, 10:41:00 AM
I don't know what you consider expensive, but maybe you should consider a base priced custom bow....

Which ever way you go, you are still going to have to tune your arrows. Poor arrow flight seldom has anything to do with the bow itself. You've only got 3 adjustment points there.... Brace height, nock height, and center shot. between those adjustments and arrow spine you should be able to get arrows flying good without too much trouble.

I think i'd recommend getting some help tuning your arrows on your next bow. That can be really  frustrating sometimes, and you may be overlooking something simple to fix....  Kirk
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Post by: Pete McMiller on March 24, 2014, 10:52:00 AM
Ditto what Kirkll said plus.....  I imagine it could be your bow but if you have been at it for 18 months and still can't get an arrow to fly straight consistently there is one glaring issue to address.  

It could be something as simple, and at the same time as complex, as your form.  The list of what could be wrong with your form and causing bad arrow flight is long.  High string elbow, cupped release hand, over drawing, drawing with your arm muscles instead of your back, inconsistent anchor, improper bow grip, etc.

How do I know?  'Cause is has all happened to me at one time or another.  Bad form is one of the most frustrating things we deal with but with perseverance we can overcome it.
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Post by: beachbowhunter on March 24, 2014, 10:54:00 AM
Have someone watch your draw and release. You might be torquing the string with your fingers.
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Post by: killinstuff on March 24, 2014, 11:34:00 AM
X2 beachbowhunter.
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Post by: FerretWYO on March 24, 2014, 12:16:00 PM
Look at Rocky Mountian Specialty Gear web page. They have lots and lots of bows maybe something will catch your eye.

Also Beachbowhunter has a great idea in having someone watch you.
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Post by: Slickhead on March 24, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
Im not sure it was your bow.
Have you shot other trad bows and experienced issues?
I would say you are flexing or twisting the string at draw.
Before you invest I would test a few to make sure its the bow.
I have a Savannah and have experienced good and bad flight from the bow with the exact same arrow.
It was either brace height or my form that was the culprit.(but mostly form as I was twisting the string)
I think longbows with low mass weight will sometimes magnify the results of bad form.
Just trying to save you some money
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Post by: Echo62 on March 24, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
I would agree with what others have already said about torquing the string. The release really affects arrow flight. I went thru a too long spell of the same thing. You don't have to be off much to have a very frustrating effect on the arrow. Taking a look at a recurve wouldn't be a bad idea either. I have always found them easier to shoot consistantly.
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Post by: Scattergun2570 on March 26, 2014, 03:01:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pete McMiller:
Ditto what Kirkll said plus.....  I imagine it could be your bow but if you have been at it for 18 months and still can't get an arrow to fly straight consistently there is one glaring issue to address.  

It could be something as simple, and at the same time as complex, as your form.  The list of what could be wrong with your form and causing bad arrow flight is long.  High string elbow, cupped release hand, over drawing, drawing with your arm muscles instead of your back, inconsistent anchor, improper bow grip, etc.

How do I know?  'Cause is has all happened to me at one time or another.  Bad form is one of the most frustrating things we deal with but with perseverance we can overcome it.
Maybe..but I had someone knowledgable bareshaft it with me. I sometimes get good flight,but most of the time I do not. I group arrows better than just about everyone at the range with that bow,.so I don't know how much is form related. Sometimes I think maybe the grip just doesn't fit my hand and It just naturally makes me torque? I don`t know,,but I want something a bit heavier anyway..maybe a couple of lbs more draw weight also.
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Post by: Scattergun2570 on March 26, 2014, 03:03:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Slickhead:
Im not sure it was your bow.
Have you shot other trad bows and experienced issues?
I would say you are flexing or twisting the string at draw.
Before you invest I would test a few to make sure its the bow.
I have a Savannah and have experienced good and bad flight from the bow with the exact same arrow.
It was either brace height or my form that was the culprit.(but mostly form as I was twisting the string)
I think longbows with low mass weight will sometimes magnify the results of bad form.
Just trying to save you some money
I am thinking you are right about the low mass weight comment,which is why my next bow will be heavier.
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Post by: Whip on March 26, 2014, 07:33:00 AM
All of the ideas suggested are possibilities,  but you might just be right with your thoughts on the grip.  Grips on bows make a big difference and as you suggest can lead to problems with torque. You can learn to shoot just about any grip out there with proper form and hand placement.  Or you can find a bow that fits your hand well and matches your natural style better.  

Many of us have gone through a lot of bows looking for that perfect one that just seems to shoot better than any other.  It can be a long and frustrating search.

Of course,  the problem may still lie in one of the other possibilities suggested,  and if that is the case a different bow won't help.  Good luck!
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Post by: TRAP on March 26, 2014, 08:38:00 AM
Low mass weight and low draw weight make it tougher for me to get a clean crisp release.  When I shoot 50s style recurves, I find it easier to get consistent arrow flight with a heavier bow.

DD