Trad Gang

Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: David Smith on March 21, 2014, 08:40:00 PM

Title: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: David Smith on March 21, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Just had a nock blow out on me when i released. The bow (black widow Sax) looks like it survived. I broke it down and checked everything. No damage to to me either. Scared the stuffins out of me though. keep an eye on your nocks folks!
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Alexander Traditional on March 21, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
Glad you and the bow are ok. Do you think a person should change their nocks every so often?
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: David Smith on March 21, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
Lol! I do now......
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Wheels2 on March 21, 2014, 09:03:00 PM
Make sure that they are snapped securely onto the shaft.  I prefer all white nocks and fletching but the clear fluorescent nocks are nice as a crack shows up very well when the arrow is held up to the light.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Knawbone on March 21, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Glad you didn't sustain injury to yourself or the bow. One of the main reasons I don't shoot 3 under. Having that nock and arrow right under my eye is close enough with a split finger style of shooting let along 3 un. Constant physical inspection of your arrows helps, but materials can fail at any time.I shoot woodies with plastic nocks. They can and do break on occasion. Checking their integrity during and after shooting cessions is a must.I have found some seriously cracked or broken before loading them on the string. Haven't had one break while dropping the string yet.......knock on wood!!
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: shag08 on March 21, 2014, 09:29:00 PM
It has happened to me before too. It is a sick feeling for sure that comes over you.

The other day I had a nock on a gt arrow stick to the string but the arrow hit it's mark perfectly. I unstrung the bow and put it back on the rack and I've been to affraid to shoot it again for fear that I may find out the bow is damaged...it's a perfect early 60's red wing hunter.  My hope is that the energy was still used to put the arrow down range and not to screw up my rwh baby doll.   :pray:    :pray:
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: RAU on March 21, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Had that happen a few years ago with my great plains recurve too Right as I started to relax my fingers the arrow fell off string. The shot was a total dry fire. The bow ended up 5 feat in front of me and unstrung!! Scared the crap out of me! Checked the bow and it was fine and still is shooting great years later. If a nock doesn't snap onto the string now it gets replaced!
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: buckeyebowhunter on March 21, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
Ive had this happen several times. It really makes you scared to shoot for a while.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: slim_grim on March 21, 2014, 10:11:00 PM
That's pretty sketchy. Time to go check my nocks for cracks.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: nineworlds9 on March 21, 2014, 10:37:00 PM
Has happened to me once and thankfully it ended with only a scare.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: LB_hntr on March 21, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
This may sound crazy and I don't know why but it seems to me the see thru or fluorescent knocks break more than the solid colored ones. It seems the fluorescent ones are harder and the solid ones are softer material. I have had nocks break in the past as well but only the fluorescent ones never a white one. I still shoot both and don't worry about it much. But something that I always wondered as only the fluorescent ones broke on me.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: M60gunner on March 22, 2014, 12:10:00 AM
What brand nock was it? I had issues with white Nirk 5/16 nocks. After 2nd time I threw the whole lot away.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: David Smith on March 22, 2014, 07:54:00 AM
It was an older yellow GT nock. My guess it took a hit at some point  and had a small crack in it.  It snapped fine on the string. The string sheared the nock right in half at release. These arrows are several years old.  I'll just go and get some new nocks and replace all of them.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Pat B on March 22, 2014, 09:21:00 AM
This is one reason I prefer self nocks. I have never had a self nock break and have had many plastic nocks break.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: gringol on March 22, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B:
This is one reason I prefer self nocks. I have never had a self nock break and have had many plastic nocks break.
Ive had two self nocks break at full draw.  Probably my fault, but IMO any knock can blow up.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Pat B on March 22, 2014, 12:14:00 PM
Are you adding a wrap behind the self nock? I prefer a sinew wrap for this but have used thread also. I've shot thousands and thousands of arrows with self nocks and not one has broken during a shot. I've even had self nocks robin hooded and a few of them were still shootable even though I wouldn't risk shooting them so I repair them before shooting again.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: gringol on March 22, 2014, 08:27:00 PM
No, pat.  I use a hardwood insert.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Pat B on March 22, 2014, 09:21:00 PM
I even use a sinew wrap with reinforced self nocks. Cheap insurance.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: David Smith on March 23, 2014, 12:04:00 AM
Been shooting the widow all day today. Looks like there is no damage to her. She's still pounding out the centers. Went ahead and replaced all of my nocks this morning as well. Thanks for the replies......
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: lefty4 on March 23, 2014, 12:10:00 PM
Howard used to say, "Draw, aim, anchor, release."

After a dry fire, the sequence will change for MANY shots. "Pucker, draw, aim, anchor, release, try to unpucker."

Glad you and the bow are OK.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Todd Cook on March 23, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
Sooner or late it will happen to most. I had one break a couple years ago at release. Will definately make you jumpy for a bit!
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: stujay on March 23, 2014, 11:58:00 PM
When I first read this I thought gold tip nocks. I recall seeing reports of them failing in the past. Might be worth a search.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: bowhuntingrn on March 24, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by lefty4:
Howard used to say, "Draw, aim, anchor, release."

After a dry fire, the sequence will change for MANY shots. "Pucker, draw, aim, anchor, release, try to unpucker."

Glad you and the bow are OK.
This put a grin on my face, having been there before I can definitely agree with the "pucker" part. Again, glad all is well.    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Longbow58 on March 24, 2014, 10:06:00 AM
Had a few clear nocks break few years back. No proof but never had my white break yet. Knock on wood. Should be able to see cracks or stress on the clear.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Stringwacker on March 24, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Just had a string to slip off the nock with the shot (I'm a three under shooter) No more Black Widow recurve riser as it cracked severely. I had another one that I replaced it with. Ordered a new one today. Bummer.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: T.A.C. on March 24, 2014, 09:48:00 PM
This is why I always put a little "squeeze" on my nock as I pull an arrow out of my target.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Steven E Milbocker on March 25, 2014, 01:34:00 PM
Just sheared a white one right down the center a couple of days ago. Shooting my new to me Whip.Thanks Dan for building a sturdy bow!!
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Bjorn on March 25, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
Glad it worked out OK. Given enough time everything that can happen will.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Bear Heart on March 25, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by LB_hntr:
This may sound crazy and I don't know why but it seems to me the see thru or fluorescent knocks break more than the solid colored ones. It seems the fluorescent ones are harder and the solid ones are softer material. I have had nocks break in the past as well but only the fluorescent ones never a white one. I still shoot both and don't worry about it much. But something that I always wondered as only the fluorescent ones broke on me.
I too have found the see through nocks to be less resilient than the solid colors.
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: grouseshooter002 on March 25, 2014, 07:18:00 PM
I had this happen a couple of years ago during a tournament and yes my heart skipped a beat or two. I was shooting my B/W PSA and it didn't suffer any damage, but I did suffer from target panic for awhile as a result of this. My only conclusion at the time was that that nock was grazed by another arrow. Check your nocks often because this isn't something that I would wish on anyone.

Regards,
Grouse
Title: Re: Nock breakage at full draw
Post by: Ssamac on March 25, 2014, 07:53:00 PM
Never happened to me luckily. They've pulled out but not broken. If they look worn or bent etc I just replace them but never looked for cracks
I will now

Glad nothing bad happened