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Title: wood shaft ?
Post by: heartlandbowyer on March 21, 2014, 12:17:00 PM
Wood guys, what is my best option for woodies if I want a finished shaft weighing around 525 or so? Shaft would be 30.5 bop 53lb @ 29 draw bow. I would like an 11/32 shaft with 10 inch nock taper to 5/16 with 150-175 gr broadhead I'm guessing a 60-65 spine shaft will fly true. Bow is cut to center.

Thanks
Cory
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Post by: Biathlonman on March 21, 2014, 12:23:00 PM
I'm no expert but with a shaft that long and head that heavy I'm guessing your going to need more spine then that.
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Post by: Hermon on March 21, 2014, 12:24:00 PM
Here is a general expected weight from Surewoods shafts website.  Looks like they would work for you.  If you are talking broadhead weight included in your target weight.

Spine weight

Grain Weight

30-35 lb 330-380 gr


35-40 lb 340-380 gr


40-45 lb 350-400 gr


45-50 lb 360-410 gr


50-55 lb 370-420 gr


55-60 lb 380-430 gr


60-65 lb 400-450 gr



Spine weight

Grain Weight

65-70 lb 410-460 gr


70-75 lb 430-480 gr


75-80 lb 440-490 gr


80-85 lb 470-520 gr


85-90 lb 480-530 gr


90-95 lb 500-540 gr


95-100 lb 510-550 gr
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Post by: David Mitchell on March 21, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
Your choice sounds to me like it should work--it would work for me at least.
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Post by: Bladepeek on March 21, 2014, 01:04:00 PM
I'm not so sure. I made up some 50-55 spined Surewoods, 30.5" with 125 gr field points and they fly great bareshaft from my 46# longbow that is center cut.

I made up some 55-60 30" shafts with 160 gr points and they fly very weak. I don't want to cut them shorter, so I'm thinking I may have to go to 60-65 around 30.5" to be able to shoot the 160 or 175 gr points.

The 4-arrow test kits are definitely fun to play around with.
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Post by: jhk1 on March 21, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
Longbow or recurve?  At same draw weight, I believe a recurve typically likes slightly higher spine than longbow (especially if longbow is straight-limbed, not reflex-deflex).

Does your desired finished shaft weight of 525 gr exclude or include the broadhead weight?  If it's shaft w/o broadhead, you may need to go with a 23/64 tapered shaft to get the shaft weight you're looking for.

I've been shooting 60-65 spine 23/64 tapered cedar shafts that I got from Wapiti Archery a couple of years ago (with 125 gr field points), and they fly nicely out of my HHA 50#@28" Big 5 longbow.  My draw is longer- probably 29.5" with a Hill-style longbow, so right about where you are (53#@29").  Since you're using heavier broadheads, I'm guessing you may want to try 65-70 spine.
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Post by: joe skipp on March 21, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
PM Surewood Steve...I just ordered some shafts from him. Steve did a great job on the first dz for my 52# Fedora recurve. Told Steve what I was looking for in finished wt and that's what I got.

Now, just ordered shafts for my longbow and he sent me a list of the wts available in my spine. Exactly what I wanted to see....and his Doug Fir are top notch.
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Post by: heartlandbowyer on March 21, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
Jk I'm looking at that weight w/broad head so total would be around that 525gr. Kind of wanting to use the arrows for hunting and 3d. If I keep right around 10 gpp at my draw I have a bow that will shoot 190 fps and then I can shoot the same arrows all the time and not have to worry about a different sight picture for different arrows.

I will pm Steve and see what my options are.

Thanks
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Post by: Biathlonman on March 21, 2014, 06:54:00 PM
I shoot almost the exact specs 51@28 drawn 29. I do shoot skinny strings and that seems to make a big difference. I shoot 75-80 with 125 gr point or 80-85 with 145.
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Post by: CDorton on March 21, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
Call Surewood Steve. He'll get you at the weight you want.
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Post by: gringol on March 22, 2014, 10:37:00 AM
You may need something closer to 70-75.  Test packs are definitely worth it.
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Post by: SlowBowinMO on March 22, 2014, 11:03:00 AM
Most DF is going to come out heavier than you want with that point weight.  I'd suggest tapered POC or have your vendor hunt down some DF that is unusually light.
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Post by: Gator1 on March 22, 2014, 12:57:00 PM
Good suggestion Tim.

I've heard great thing about wapitis at braveheart..